free energy motor

[transapax]

please ante, you posted a 5000w electro-mechanical inverter. the author in his book talked about a free energy motor used in running an alternator for charging his batteries. if that is possible, it then means that there is a free way of charging batteries without depending on the national grid. does anyone have an idea how the free energy motor is constructed as it will be beneficial to me as my country produces less than one-tenth of her energy needs. i would be grateful if anyone can post that project.(free energy motor).
transapax

[Cabwood]

The concept is called "over-unity systems". Just Google for over-unity, and you'll find an overwhelming number of web sites that claim to know all about them. And probably don't.

Maybe somebody succeeded with this, but nobody's ever managed to demonstrate it to the public at large. It's a myth, that might be true, but right now it's just a myth. And I'm willing to bet that even if it could be done (which would defy current laws of physics), with current technology the best you could do is light an LED with the power generated.

Having said that, play with it. You might be the one to bring this wonderful dream to fruition for us all.

[Ante]

Hi transapax,

You can find a few threads here in our forum (no news for some time though) if you search. My personal opinion about this (free energy) is that it is not possible to go against the laws of physics.

[Cabwood]

At university in 1988 I was taught some facts and figures about networking and electronic communications. Some of it was very compelling matthematical proofs of what can and can't be sent down a wire link, such as telephone wire. At that time it was deemed impossible to carry anything over 100kHz more than a few tens of meters without irecuperable losses.

Well, that was a load of crap, considering DSL signals in the tens of megahertz are routinely connecting people over a single copper twisted pair to exchanges hundreds of metres away.

Maybe we employed those laws of physics in an innovative way, or maybe these "known" laws broke down under certain conditions. Or maybe they were just hokey laws from the outset. Whatever the way, I can't take "can't" seriously at all.

Over-unity systems are currently debunked with as much enthusiasm as they are dreamed up, but some day I'm sure someone will dream one up that works. Then the laws will magically adapt themselves to cater for this anomaly, and everyone will declare nonchalantly "well, yes, if you do it like that, of course it will work", while at the same time wishing the idea had been their's, and secretly banging their collectively expert heads against the bedroom wall at night.

[Ante]

Hi Cabwood,

I hear what are saying!
Its not that I don’t want it to work, I don’t mind being wrong about this but none of the projects I have seen so far is very convincing! I say good luck to anyone with the patience to pursue this! 

[indulis]

I don't think the properties of copper wire have changed since 88, but what about the method by which the information is sent? I would have to think great strides have taken place in that arena over the past 20 years, no?

[Ante]

Hi indulis,

Yes, I agree the methods are probably the difference here not the copper. I haven’t gone deep at all into this but from what I have read things have been learned from optical fiber signaling even though these are conducting light.

[Cabwood]

Indulis - great strides have been made, but the greatest ones are always those that disprove previous assertions of law, or at least of commonly accepted limits.

The copper is proably the same, but they twisted it. I mean, somebody had to think "hey, I wonder what would happen to latent capacitance and inuctance of these parallel conductors if I twisted them together", (I don't really know what happened, of course, or even if that is the solution) and in that blinding flash of creativity, previously accepted limits regarding noise rejection and bandwidth of two copper wires were consigned to the scrap heap.

I rather hope that the same kind of creativity will soon blast to smithereens a few really really popular physical laws, like the one that says there's no such thing as a free lunch.

[indulis]

Unfortunatly the "twisted pair" concept (and it's benefits) have been around decades prior to the internet showing it's face. I doubt  the laws of physics have changed, but

previous assertions

there just might be something there.

Hey... as soon as you made the line "dedicated" you got bandwidth, but on the flip side, it still doesn't work for everyone... nowadays there are disclamers all over the place about "... not all location may, blah, blah, blah"! That just leads me right back to... copper wire hasn't changed!!

[mvs sarma]

Hi Indulis
 i had recently visited an enrgy saving exhibition at Hyderabd, wherein M/s NMDC (national minaral development corporation), participated --which enthused me to probe their participation cause--

they have apeculiar cituation and use it to regenerate power and they gave a brouchre

it is rather dificult o post it here -- but i suggest you to see their website
their regd office is located at Hyderabad -India


www.nmdc-india.com

[marcoz]

[marcoz]

[audioguru]

Look at the schematics for the Bedini motor. It has a 12V battery to run it and it uses 15A transistors to commutate the battery's power to its drive coil. It is an ordinary brushless DC motor that was made long before anybody wanted a brushless DC motor.

Don't be silly. An electric motor doesn't run by itself without something to power it.

[marcoz]

maybe it is better for you to try something before speaking because i know for sure there is  a lot for you to learn.

marcoz