Hi, gogo Thanks for reply. I'am also new to the hobby of electronics, i have a cheap scope about 5Mhz in spec, its ok for me being a newbie and all that, i shall be trying to build my test gear, i think this is a good way to learn, my soldering is ok i use a antex iron small wattage with a 0.5mm tip, works fine for me, i have under construction a fcl_x meter which will test caps-freq counter-xtals i have etched the pcb all went well, and iam busy mounting all components to the board no problems so far_ web address is, http://www.hamradioindia.org/circuits/fcl.php take a look they have given the meter good remarks AS for software PCB WIZARD was my first program - have moved to EAGLE and finding my way round this along with Eagle 3D from this site wow !!. Keep in touch Regards, chris 50.