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Yap, I saw it. Hope everybody contributes.

Ante, Sceptic is normal. I was sceptic before. Law of Physic says, output always lesser than input. There is no such device or product in the world that can output more energy compared to input until today. Yes I agree, but soon there will one in near future (I believe). Ashtweth, Talking about RV, what konehead explained in Yahoo forum make sense. In normal AC 3PH motor, you can't really adjust the stator and rotor gap. While in pulse motor (plate based like Muller motor), this can be easily achived. More over if the motor can be configured in single stator and double rotor, both poles from the stator can be utilised to push turn rotor faster with the same amount of input power (more RPM and torque). For generator section, you may look at http://homepages.enterprise.net/hugh0piggott/pmgbooklet/itpmg.pdf PMG used in Wind Generator. With less RPM can get higher Wattage. This type of generator uses air core stator so there won't be any cogging effect when the rotor turns. Can ever turn by hand easily. Since it is heavy, it can add flywheel effect for pulse motor which is highly recommended. What do you think about it. Does it make sense. Please revert. TQ.

MP, Sorry for the late reply. Could you post a diagram of what you have built? I think there are only a few people here who are able to follow your conversation. As I have promised earlier, I will post the pictures and diagram when everything are in place so that everybody will follow without any confusion. Currently I'm facing some mechanical problem in constructing double rotor single stator motor. Lack of mechanical knowledge and most important thing <b>MONEY & TIME</b> which is holding me back right now. MP, if you really interested on those single stator & rotor motor, I will post it as long as it doesn't confuse anybody. Please revert. TQ.

ashtweth, I do not have osiloscope to see the double spike. But I'm using this type of setup to run adams/bedini motor. You can control the pulse width by adjusting the variable resistor (1K) + 220 Ohm. See bedini motor patented diagram. You might know what I mean. Set variable resistor to 0 ohm first. This is starting setup to run the motor. Once the motor gets peak of the speed, adjust by increasing the resistor value (not too much). You will able to see the motor runs much faster and minimize input power. The BEMF collected to charge the second battery through capacitor. The result was impresive. Right now, I'm trying to construct motor with different type of setup. Normally adams/bedini using single pole method to push the magnets away from stator. I'm going to setup motor with double rotor single stator and push pull method. It will really make a big differents in motor torque and speed but with same or a little bit higher input power.

ashtweth, You are really going for it. Good. By Konehead's postings in Yahoo, the result shows impresive earlier but recently he mentioned he still haven't get OU. Very confusing. Is this because of PM generator he was running? which country are you and every one cituated? Malaysia.

ashtweth, I wish you luck for the RV project. Konehead succesfully replicated it. Konehead is a very hardworking person. I always follow his experiment reports. RV project will cost more money compare to adams and bedini motor such as buying quality 3ph motors and so on. Right now my budget is a bit tied. Let me focus on least expensive project first before go for RV. If I got time and money, I definitely will go for it. I saw your postings in Yahoo. Hector already give you green light for you to proceed. Just keep up your good work and never loose interest. Regards, Kumaran

Ante, That is one part of my testing plan. But before that I must make sure that what ever testing result that the inventor did must match with my test result. This is to ensure the setup is correct according to thier specification. No worries I will keep posting the result.

Hi ashtweth, Thanks for accepting the invitation. So you are working on RotoVerter system? Me still working on Adams motor and Bedini Motor. Just today posted some unofficial result got from yestedays testing in "Electronic Chic Chat -> Adams Motor Project". Have you read through the thread? Keep working towards OU. I believe the truth is out there.... Just waiting for us to discover it.

Greetings all, I have setup a simple bedini motor prototype. Yesterday (07 Sep 2004) I manage to see some charging effect to the secondary battery. The charging are really fast. Here is the unofficial result taken from observertion yesterday. Before running =========== Primary battery : 13.03 Secondary battery : 10.01 While running ========== Primary battery : 12.78 and stays there Secondary battery : charging fast (around 0.01 in a minute) After running (Stop the motor after secondary reaches 12.0 V) ========= Primary battery : Fast recovery. Secondary battery : 12.0V Check after 15 minutes ================ Primary battery : 13.03 (back to original voltage) Secondary battery : 11.58 I still have to do a lot of testing in order to prove that this machine is overunity. Wait and see...

Hi All, I'm not EE expert. Still new to this field. So I'm unable to comment so much untill I try out. I will post the pictures and results once the things get moving. Need sometime as I'm doing this after my office hours at home. Every day spent around 2-3 hours doing these stuffs. When comes to electronic matters, I will rely on this sites to get an answer. Wait and see... Wish me luck buddies...

John Bedini said "My initial testing began on the above device, and then moved to principals employed in his newest patent applications. The above recovery circuit was but only a lesson in Radiant Energy recovery. The validated device is NOT flashing a lightbulb like some have ASSumed. It is charging batteries with NO electron current, and only requires a small amount of energy to operate the circuit that triggers the Radiant Energy for capture. You will not measure it on your meters, but it will manifest as a fully charged battery."

For better performance start with the very basic like the wiring. Instead of thin long wires with crocodile clips and wiring that looks more like a birds nest try to use a little thicker and shorter wires and soldered or screwed connections. This will make the projects look a bit more serious and certainly much more efficient. One of the important factor in this project is wire thickness which is been emphasize so many times by the inventors. Magnet wires should be in range of 24 - 26 AWG. Resistance of each stator windings must be in range of 6 - 10 ohm. Bifilar or unidirectional winding performs better result. There are three things working against a project like this, the friction against air, the mechanical friction, and earth gravity. You can

Thank you for your feedbacks. This is considered a fully normal reaction. And most important if there where any gain of energy in this kind of motor it is easily proven by swapping the battery for a capacitor, when is see this running I am convinced. Then you just have to push start the motor and it will run forever, or at least until you have a bearing failure or the cap dry out. Some of the experimenter using two battery system. One is driving the motor and another is to restore regenerated energy. After comparing the losses and gain energy, gained energy are more than loss energy. (http://www.icehouse.net/john1/index100.htm). If some of the motors on the pictures were even close to work they would work even better after some good engineering. I noticed details that can be improved for better efficiency. Please list down the items to reengineer the motor for better performance. I would try to implement into my project motor if possible. Well I think that this is a little amazing and maybe all this stuff seems for me to be untrue because the motor can not recharge the source of power by itself there is always loss of power. Why? Because all the ordinary motors are not designed to recharge the power source. These type of motors, power goes in one direction only (battery -> motor) not both ways (battery -> motor -> battery). Tell me a little more about it I saw the links that you gave me but I had a little work to do so I haven`t read them carefuly. You got to read it to understand. I had many sleepless night thinking if this is posibble ??? When through few blind experiment, frustrated for not getting the result. Went back to notes, study and try to understand.

Adams motor claimed to be OU (Overunity) motor/generator. Takes less input power to produce more output power. This motor claimed to be recharge the source by itself while the motor is running and ordinary motor can't do this. As Robert Adams states, "Our universe is a sea of energy - free, clean energy. "It is all out there waiting for us to set sail upon it" Adams has built a number of permanent magnet electric D.C. motor generators based on the principle outlined in this article, some of which have demonstrated an electrical efficiency of 690% and a mechanical efficiency of 620%. The devices run at room temperature. Any device that doesn't could not be running at over 100% efficiency, as heat is the major result of hysteresis losses that are induced in any conventional electric motor or generator. Radiated heat is a sure-fire sign that a power generator is not running over unity, as all heat radiated by such a device is wasted energy. Some other links 1) http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/bp/16/adamsmotorguide.htm 2) http://www.rexresearch.com/adamotor/adamotor.htm

What is Adams Motor? Why it is so special? Please read through the links below in order to get basic understanding. 1) http://www.geocities.com/theadamsmotor/ 2) http://theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/menu/pulse_motors.htm 3) http://theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/menu/muller.htm

Noted. Sorry MP. I have created new category "Adams Motor Project " under Electronics chit chat section. For those who willing to share experience on this stuff please post it under this category.

Hi all, Has anyone experience in building Adams Motor or Ed Gray Motor ???

Ante, Is it some kind of commutation for a motor like in a brush less fanmotor for instance? Yes, you are right. When rotor magnet approaches Hall Effect IC, it sends signal to transistor to induce current for stator. Now stator become electromagnet to push the magnets away (repulsion). Basic concept. reed switch -> 555 timer -> LM358 -> 2N3055 (works) For this type of motors, precission and pulse width are very critical and important. Reed switch and hall effect ic will not produce the result if magnets on rotor arranged nearer. I find opto switch is the best for this purpose. I need precission. Pulse width can be controlled by 555 timer. I have tested this method yesterday and it works. Today & tomorrow I will try to fix into my project motor. Will inform you the outcome. Sceptic, yes absolutely. Basic rules: You can

Thanks for the advice Ante, will try out soon. FYI, yesterday I tried with the setup below : reed switch -> 555 timer -> LM358 -> 2N3055 These setup is using single 555 timer. The ICs never get hot and runs stable. Manage to control pulse width but unable to get trigger width. When ever I use two 555 timer as in the diagram, the second 555 timer IC gets hot and unable to get the expected result even I reassemble the whole circuit again. OK, may be you were wondering what project I'm doing currently. I'm doing R&D on pulse DC motor. According to the internet source, these type of motor if tuned and setup correctly will become Overunity(OU). It means free energy. You get excess of output compare to input source. Skeptic? So was I initially. I have been studying these stuff for a long time. Manage to see positive result few months back by just using basic method (reed switch -> transistor) but cannot confirm. Saw some voltage of the baterry increase while the motor was running. This is enough for me to continue research. In order to enhance the setup I got to use a bit advance electronic parts. Since I'm new to electronic, I do a lot of trial an error :'(. Maybe those interested can join to do this exciting/fun project. Some of the related links listed below : 1) http://www.geocities.com/theadamsmotor/ 2) http://theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/menu/pulse_motors.htm 3) http://theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/menu/muller.htm My project right now is the (1).

Ante, I tried your suggestion. Three IC's never draw any current from the output pin when I moved the magnet nearer to IC while the circuit powered. I replaced with another new Hall Effect IC. Measured and got voltage around 1 - 2V. So the IC works. Probably the IC damaged previously. Anyway I have switched to simpler method by using reed switch with 555 timer IC. I'm using 555 timer IC in order to control trigger width and pulse width. I have enclosed the circuit diagram. I still encounter some problem. The circuit is stabe if I connect LED at output of second 555 timer IC. If I connect the output from second 55 timer IC output direct to 2N3055 base, both 555 timer IC get hotter and the result goes crazy (unstable). Maybe today I will try method below : reed switch -> 555 timer -> LM358 -> 2SC1061 -> 2N3055 Power Source : 12VDC Hope this works. Your comments highly appreciated.

Ante, Attached is the data sheet for HALL-EFFECT SWITCHES I have used. I have tested A3121LLT, A3122LLT & A3123LLT. Non of them working. Power source 6V battery. I connected the output from Hall IC to 2N3055 base. Beeper connected to 2N3055. By logic it should work. Your comment please. 3121.pdf

I have ordered sample for hall effect IC's from Allegro Microsystem. There are 6 types all together. So far I have tried 3 different types. Guess what... non of them are working. The function of Hall Effect IC is like reed switch. Turn on when in presence of magnet. But these IC's not doing the job. Wasted 4 hours of testing. Right no moving to opto interupter switches.

I have ordered some samples from Allegro Microsystem on 27/07/2004. They reverted instanly that they forwarded the orders for approval. Waited 1 week no sign of getting anything. Forward the email I received and ask about the status of the order. Reverted with the status "ship to customer". Cool... Waited patienly. 1 week passed, 2 week passed. I contacted the person incharge. No news, no reply... I lost my patience. I send them an harsh email. Ask them to remove "sample order" links from thier website because it is cheating. Guest what... immediately they called me and ask my FEDex number. Hmmm... Sometimes harsh emails might do the job... I received thier parts on 17/08/2004. Suggest those who never received any ordered samples... follow my way. It might work. Texas Instruments still the top of the list. Shipment in 5 working days. From US to Malaysia.

mixos, Special thanks for you for the info. I just received the chips that I ordered 3 days ago from TI without any fee to pay. ;D Nice packaging. Unbelievable. :o