msr2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Hello Guys !I have a 24Vac x 25A transformer...What I need to make to have more than 0-3A at output ? Let's say 0-5AHow much DC regulated can I expect with 24Vac at input ?I'll make two boards and have a dual output power supply... there is a lot of "Amps" from my xformer :)Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguru Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Hello Guys !I have a 24Vac x 25A transformer...What I need to make to have more than 0-3A at output ? Let's say 0-5AHow much DC regulated can I expect with 24Vac at input ?I'll make two boards and have a dual output power supply... there is a lot of "Amps" from my xformer :)Thank you!The voltage from your 24VAC transformer will allow the project to have a regulated max 25VDC output if the main filter capacitor has a high value. Add more output transistors and driver transistors for more Amps. The value of R7 determines the max adjustable Amps.If your transformer has two 24V windings the one can be used for a positive supply and the other can be used for a negative supply or for a second supply.Which circuit will you make? The original circuit in the project has errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero999 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 The voltage from your 24VAC transformer will allow the project to have a regulated max 25VDC output if the main filter capacitor has a high valueNo, the voltage on the capacitor will be about 32.5V with a 24V transformer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguru Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 No, the voltage on the capacitor will be about 32.5V with a 24V transformer.The rectifier bridge will have a voltage loss of about 2V.The current-sensing resistor R7 uses 1.4V at 3A.The output transistor has a max voltage loss of about 2V.The driver transistor has a max voltage loss of about 1V.The opamp U2 has a max voltage loss of about 2V.The main filter capacitor will have ripple of about 2V p-p.Then the regulated output is less than 25VDC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msr2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 The voltage from your 24VAC transformer will allow the project to have a regulated max 25VDC output if the main filter capacitor has a high value. Add more output transistors and driver transistors for more Amps. The value of R7 determines the max adjustable Amps.If your transformer has two 24V windings the one can be used for a positive supply and the other can be used for a negative supply or for a second supply.Which circuit will you make? The original circuit in the project has errors.AudioGuru,I'm going to make the circuit of this thread (posted by Redwire and your partlist with red comments) is this ok ?My transformer is 12+12VAC How much current can I drive of each output transistor ?thanksMarcelo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguru Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 The circuit in this thread makes 0V to 30VDC at 3A. It uses a 28VAC transformer.Yours will be different since your transformer's voltage is too low.It will provide a max output current of 5A if you use 3 output transistors (each with a 0.33 ohm emitter resistor) and change R7 to 0.27 ohms/10W resistor and change one of the current-setting resistors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msr2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 But I can't just use 24VAC and get a maximum output of 25VDC ? I'll need to make modifications to the circuit ?thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguru Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Your power supply will have a maximum regulated output of about 25VDC because the voltage from your transformer is too low for 30VDC.You should modify the voltage setting pot so that it cannot be adjusted higher than about 25VDC where the output will be full of ripple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero999 Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 The rectifier bridge will have a voltage loss of about 2V.The current-sensing resistor R7 uses 1.4V at 3A.The output transistor has a max voltage loss of about 2V.The driver transistor has a max voltage loss of about 1V.The opamp U2 has a max voltage loss of about 2V.The main filter capacitor will have ripple of about 2V p-p.Then the regulated output is less than 25VDC.Oh you're talking about the output voltage, I thoguht you were refering to the voltage on the filter capacitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulli12 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I noticed the new power supply schematic has 2 2N3055 power transistors in parallel.The original schematic only has only one.Is the "new" power supply also limited to 3A or is it 6A? (assuming the transformer & heatsink are ok)If more than 3A is possible, does one only has to change the setting of the current trimpot?thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguru Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 The single 2N3055 transistor in the original project got too hot (dissipating 89W) when the output voltage was low or was shorted and the current was set to 3A.The modified and corrected circuit has a higher transformer voltage which causes even more heat so two 2N3055 transistors are used to share the heat (50W each).Two output transistors use less total base current than one so the driver transistor is cooler.Three output transistors can have a 5A output current. R7 is the current sensor and is changed from 0.47 ohms to 0.27 ohms for 5A output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendimano Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Hello, i have build the original version of power supply and it forked fine (with it unperfections as well), now im thinking to build the upgradet version with this schematics and parts list. anyone who haves god advices please send me. And if anyone haves the PCB for this version im asking him to post it or to send me. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguru Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Hello, i have build the original version of power supply and it forked fine (with it unperfections as well), now im thinking to build the upgradet version with this schematics and parts list. anyone who haves god advices please send me. And if anyone haves the PCB for this version im asking him to post it or to send me. RegardsYou have the schematic for one version (but not the latest) and the parts list for a much older version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendimano Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Hello Audioguru, thanx for tips, and please if you could sent me a latest schematic with parts list. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguru Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I have posted the latest schematic and parts list many times.There is a thread about it but I am busy now and will find it later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwire Posted October 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Here is the latest parts list I have. Not sure if it matches Audioguru's list, but if it doesn't that's what this forum is all about.PS_Parts_List_10-11-09.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendimano Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thanx Redwire :) i will veate litle bit more for any post fom audioguru beafore i start building the power supply, tell me if this part list that you have posted goes with this schematics, and if you could tell me some other tips and sugestions since im planing to build an 5 amps version. Regards ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendimano Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 P.S this schematics ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwire Posted October 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Yes, it goes with the sketch you posted. For the 5A version I would recommend the following:1. 30VAC 7.2A or higher stepdown transformer2. R7 = 0.27, 10W resistor3. C1= 20,000 uf, 63V4. Q4, Q5 & Q6 (at least 3 paralleled ) NPN transistors on huge heatsinks.Actually pretty minor changes since most of these parts are located off the PCB because of their size . The basic PCB doesn't change much except to ensure the tracks are wide enough to handle the 5A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendimano Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thanx again Redwire, since i have two capacitors of 10.000 mF 63 Volts can i conect them paralel and use them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jure_S Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Hi!Does anyone have a gerber file or board file for original 0-30v Stabilized Power Supply described here http://www.electronics-lab.com/projects/power/003/index.html?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero999 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 No I don't think anyone does and if they did, you'd need to be sure that it's for the latest version and that you can get hold of all the components with exactly the same footprint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendimano Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 I think tat is a great idea from jure, if any one havs the gerber file of pcb from the original version we colud modified for the latest version, so im caling to anyone if havs the gerber file to post it, regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguru Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 The original project used many parts that are too small so they got too hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nand Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Cann I use an C1 = 4700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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