Arthur C Clark, geostationary stuff

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John Woodgate

Jan 1, 1970
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I read in sci.electronics.design that martin griffith
'Electronics World' re-published in the October 2005 issue both Clarke's
letter to 'WW' in February 1945 about peacetime uses of V2 and the
article 'Extraterrestrial Relays'. Unfortunately, for commercial
reasons, the article is reproduced 4-up on an A4 page with acres of
white (well, grey) space, so it's almost unreadable. The publishers will
sell you a readable version for money, at:

mailto:[email protected]
 
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Kevin

Jan 1, 1970
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John Woodgate wrote:
....
'Electronics World' re-published in the October 2005 issue both Clarke's
letter to 'WW' in February 1945 about peacetime uses of V2 and the
article 'Extraterrestrial Relays'. Unfortunately, for commercial
reasons, the article is reproduced 4-up on an A4 page with acres of
white (well, grey) space, so it's almost unreadable.
....

I have both the original and a reprint they did back in 1960 or so. It
is also on the web in quite a few places such as:

http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/on-line/clarke/ww2.asp

http://www.lsi.usp.br/~rbianchi/clarke/ACC.ETRelays.html

kevin
 
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Dirk Bruere at Neopax

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
I read in sci.electronics.design that martin griffith

'Electronics World' re-published in the October 2005 issue both Clarke's
letter to 'WW' in February 1945 about peacetime uses of V2 and the
article 'Extraterrestrial Relays'. Unfortunately, for commercial
reasons, the article is reproduced 4-up on an A4 page with acres of
white (well, grey) space, so it's almost unreadable. The publishers will
sell you a readable version for money, at:

mailto:[email protected]

How about scanning and doing some basic image processing?
--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
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Adrian Tuddenham

Jan 1, 1970
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John Woodgate said:
I read in sci.electronics.design that martin griffith

'Electronics World' re-published in the October 2005 issue both Clarke's
letter to 'WW' in February 1945 about peacetime uses of V2 and the
article 'Extraterrestrial Relays'.

Does anyone still subscribe to that admag?

At the beginning of 2005, the new editor made it her policy to exclude
articles based on private research and to fill the space with consumer
product 'news' and other advertising puff from the marketing departments
of big corporations.

I had a long-term subscription but I cancelled it and got my money back.
 
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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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I read in sci.electronics.design that martin griffith

'Electronics World' re-published in the October 2005 issue both Clarke's
letter to 'WW' in February 1945 about peacetime uses of V2 and the
article 'Extraterrestrial Relays'.

Does anyone still subscribe to that admag?

At the beginning of 2005, the new editor made it her policy to exclude
articles based on private research and to fill the space with consumer
product 'news' and other advertising puff from the marketing departments
of big corporations.

I had a long-term subscription but I cancelled it and got my money back.[/QUOTE]

I gave up when I found the internet and SED, must have been about 1998
time.
The same with Elektor, they just seemed to be repeating an update of
the same projects every 5 years


martin
 
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RickB

Jan 1, 1970
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Then obviously Martin has not been reading Elektor these past five (or
was it seven?) years. Sure, they too repeat the occasional project but
then how else would newcomers have a way of finding about stuff?
Most Elektor articles and projects are innovative in a way you wouldn't
have a hope of ever finding in monochromee EPE, let alone EW which is
just a collection of high-brow articles that fill pages easily. Just
look at Elektor's recent GBDSO, ARM, RFID, USB, XBox, OBD, DRM and
Electrosmog Detector projects which leave EPE and EW, ermm, lame?

Rick
 
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Adrian Tuddenham

Jan 1, 1970
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[...]
Most Elektor articles and projects are innovative in a way you wouldn't
have a hope of ever finding in monochromee EPE, let alone EW which is
just a collection of high-brow articles that fill pages easily.

E.W. isn't like that any more. ...possibly it never was.

It used to have a number of good articles written by professional
designers who also enjoyed electronics as a hobby. It was a good place
for them to publish ideas that didn't fit in with their paid research or
commercial design activities. These articles have become thinner on the
ground during the past 5 years.

A recent editor, with a poor grasp of the basics of electronics and
physics, dropped several clangers by letting through dubious articles
that didn't stand up to scrutiny (and at least one which I'm sure was an
intentional spoof).

Then, early this year, the latest editor wrote a disparaging comment
about 'garden shed' design and expressed her view that the future lay in
consumer goods. She has since published nothing of interest to the
enquiring mind, neither high-brow nor low-brow, but just stuffs the
pages with badly-written and thinly-disguised advertising material
culled from mostly American sales hype.

The standard of writing has dropped to barely comprehensible and the
remaining few circuit diagrams are poorly drafted with no consistent
style. One even had all the horizontal lines missing!

That sort of rubbish is available in free magazines, I don't see the
point of paying for it.
 
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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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Then obviously Martin has not been reading Elektor these past five (or
was it seven?) years. Sure, they too repeat the occasional project but
then how else would newcomers have a way of finding about stuff?
Most Elektor articles and projects are innovative in a way you wouldn't
have a hope of ever finding in monochromee EPE, let alone EW which is
just a collection of high-brow articles that fill pages easily. Just
look at Elektor's recent GBDSO, ARM, RFID, USB, XBox, OBD, DRM and
Electrosmog Detector projects which leave EPE and EW, ermm, lame?

Rick
I became homeless (intentionally), and spent a few years travelling
in Spain.

0) My tech language Spanish skills are not very good
1) Dont think I ever found a spanish Elektor anywhere
2) My little house on wheels did not have enough storage space.

Maybe I'll sign up for circuit cellar on line one day


martin
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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Reminds me of a little item in one of Good Dr. Asimov's essays,
where he was chatting with someone, who mentioned "the Clark
orbit". The Good Doctor asked, "What the heck is a Clark orbit?"
The other person said, "You know, geostationary, like Arthur
Clarke proposed." Dr. A said, "Oh, well, you didn't pronounce
the final 'e'."

Cheers!
Rich
 
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RickB

Jan 1, 1970
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I'll second that, Adrian. By high brow I meant intended for the few
remaining readers happy with higher level maths poorly printed.
Personally I don't think EW will last another year.

Rick
 
Adrian said:
Does anyone still subscribe to that admag?

At the beginning of 2005, the new editor made it her policy to exclude
articles based on private research and to fill the space with consumer
product 'news' and other advertising puff from the marketing departments
of big corporations.

I had a long-term subscription but I cancelled it and got my money back.


Packed it in 2 months ago. Been buying it since late '60s.
No way will I pay £4.20 to read worthless blather from worthless
marketing and sales rep's. Told her so.
Wished her well as final editor but asked that she let the mag' die
with a little dignity.

regards
john
 
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Chris Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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Adrian said:
Does anyone still subscribe to that admag?

At the beginning of 2005, the new editor made it her policy to exclude
articles based on private research and to fill the space with consumer
product 'news' and other advertising puff from the marketing departments
of big corporations.

I had a long-term subscription but I cancelled it and got my money back.
It's a terrible pity what has happened to that magazine. I would like to
complete my collection of pre-1985 issues, because those will be a treasure
forever. The components may have changed, but in many cases the insight of
the authors will remain valuable for a long time yet.

Chris
 
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Adrian Tuddenham

Jan 1, 1970
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Packed it in 2 months ago. Been buying it since late '60s.
No way will I pay £4.20 to read worthless blather from worthless
marketing and sales rep's. Told her so.
Wished her well as final editor but asked that she let the mag' die
with a little dignity.


I too was a reader from the 1960s and had collected many issues from
long before that.

It was sad to see an editor so far out of touch with her inherited
readership that she could write such a stupid editorial. She
effectively kicked loyal readers and potential contributors in the teeth
by saying that the things they valued most in that publication were
worthless. I first thought it was a tongue-in-cheek message to goad
people to rally and support the magazine ...until I saw the next issue.

Your reply to her was a lot more imaginative than my letter to the
subscriptions department, but I also took the trouble to let them know
the reasons why I was cancelling my subscription.

The article I was about to submit on a novel capsule-array microphone
design has never been completed because I can't think where else to
publish it.
 
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Robert Baer

Jan 1, 1970
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Adrian said:
I too was a reader from the 1960s and had collected many issues from
long before that.

It was sad to see an editor so far out of touch with her inherited
readership that she could write such a stupid editorial. She
effectively kicked loyal readers and potential contributors in the teeth
by saying that the things they valued most in that publication were
worthless. I first thought it was a tongue-in-cheek message to goad
people to rally and support the magazine ...until I saw the next issue.

Your reply to her was a lot more imaginative than my letter to the
subscriptions department, but I also took the trouble to let them know
the reasons why I was cancelling my subscription.

The article I was about to submit on a novel capsule-array microphone
design has never been completed because I can't think where else to
publish it.
I think many of us would be interested in that mike.
Either put it up in A.B.S.E. or on a website with a suggested
donation for viewing.
Beats the heck out of me how one could collect $5.00 or less without
paying a fortune for the clearing of the credit card, tho.
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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I think many of us would be interested in that mike.
Either put it up in A.B.S.E. or on a website with a suggested
donation for viewing.
Beats the heck out of me how one could collect $5.00 or less without
paying a fortune for the clearing of the credit card, tho.

PayPal?

Good Luck!
Rich
 
I too was a reader from the 1960s and had collected many issues from
long before that.

It was sad to see an editor so far out of touch with her inherited
readership that she could write such a stupid editorial. She
effectively kicked loyal readers and potential contributors in the teeth
by saying that the things they valued most in that publication were
worthless. I first thought it was a tongue-in-cheek message to goad
people to rally and support the magazine ...until I saw the next issue.

Your reply to her was a lot more imaginative than my letter to the
subscriptions department, but I also took the trouble to let them know
the reasons why I was cancelling my subscription.

The article I was about to submit on a novel capsule-array microphone
design has never been completed because I can't think where else to
publish it.

Maybe natural processes are at work. A regular E.W. contributor (here
earlier this year), wisely mentioned that most of the bleeding edge
stuff is now 'digital' and that a description or detailing of such,
results in a somewhat boring if not tedious read.
The editor of E.W. is also probably of that generation that has never
needed to wrangle a wildly unstable linear amplifier into mute
submission and will therefore know nothing of the resulting
intellectual costs and rewards inherent in analogue design work.
I think we're from the last generation that was lucky enough to be able
to take pleasure from this subject. (aka dinosaurs).

The really annoying bit is that even though I've no particular interest
in (say) audio type techniques, I could have really have enjoyed
reading your (completed!) capsule-array article and have now not that
option.
There's a whole world of difference between what an enthusiastic
engineer can write up and the turgid rubbish pumped out by companies
pushing some trivial digital technology.

Can see no easy solution on the horizon, so resolve to spend the rest
of my time reading the design groups and whingeing and bitching about
things I know can't change.
regards
john
 
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John Woodgate

Jan 1, 1970
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Adrian Tuddenham
The article I was about to submit on a novel capsule-array microphone
design has never been completed because I can't think where else to
publish it.

I'm going away on business almost immediately for a few days, but if you
send me an e-mail at tech[at]isce[dot]org[dot]uk, we may be able to work
something out.
 
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