AWA tv repaired - 3 times still not working right:(

hi
i've had to get my relatively new AWA tv model W571 repaired now 3
times and it's still not working right. $200 out of pocket and 10 days
with no tv:(((((( F***!
problem is perfect sound but no picture just a blue screen with white
lines going across it.When you first turn on tv there is a faint
picture like looking through a photograph negative,then within 5
seconds that goes leaving just the blue screen with the white lines.
Repair guy gets it going in workshop leaves it running for several
hours but whenever i get it back it goes again.First time i got it back
it was ok for 4 days the second time i got it back within an hour the
same problem ocurred.
Trying to read original repair warranty is difficult because of
handwriting but there are references to ''blue screen and flybook
line''s.''Trace features to picture tube and tube socket''.
''Dislodge internal foreign material,'' then something that looks like
''heaters to cathode'',''short circuit on blue gun'' ''repair tele
socket on picture circuit board'' ''replace heater dropping resistor &
check plater circuit'' ''very extensive bench test''.

The tv is only 14 months old:(
I could get someone else to look at it but then i have to start all
over again money-wise and i've already paid $200!
Does anybody have any suggestions?
thanks
p***ed off tv viewer:(((
 
T

Tech Data

Jan 1, 1970
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If you've got a heater to cathode short, there is no repairing by
conventional methods. Even a crt rejuvinator can't remove those shorts.
The only way to do it, and it's not always 100%, is to defeat the
heater line to the crt, meaning any path to chassis ground, and do a
wire wrap around the core of the flyback. You're creating a new heater
line free of the circuit ground. The cathode can short to the heater
all day long and won't make a difference.
 
K

kip

Jan 1, 1970
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Take it back to them if you have payed them money...yikes.
 
well hopefully the technicial knows this?But maybe he only works along
''conventional methods? How would you know.?!
It sounds like from your post (not a criticism btw) that the tv can't
be fixed?:(
 
he can't fix it today supposedly booked out,He's collecting it from me
(again!) early monday morning.So no tv all weekend.Virtually had no tv
for over a week now already.
 
D

David Nebenzahl

Jan 1, 1970
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[email protected] spake thus:
he can't fix it today supposedly booked out,He's collecting it from me
(again!) early monday morning.So no tv all weekend.Virtually had no tv
for over a week now already.

You'll be better off for it. Read a book.
 
A

Asimov

Jan 1, 1970
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"David Nebenzahl" bravely wrote to "All" (27 Jan 06 17:14:09)
--- on the heady topic of "Re: AWA tv repaired - 3 times still not working right:("

DN> From: David Nebenzahl <[email protected]>
DN> Xref: core-easynews sci.electronics.repair:356716

DN> [email protected] spake thus:
he can't fix it today supposedly booked out,He's collecting it from me
(again!) early monday morning.So no tv all weekend.Virtually had no tv
for over a week now already.

DN> You'll be better off for it. Read a book.


I watched an interview with the Italian movie star Marcello Mastroiani
on TV once where (paraphrasing) he stated TV is garbage, there is
nothing good to watch on TV except maybe the odd documentary about
animals. The man wasn't totally wrong except he didn't get the irony
of being interviewed for TV.

A*s*i*m*o*v

.... This message transmitted on 100% recycled photons.
 
B

b

Jan 1, 1970
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Asimov said:
"David Nebenzahl" bravely wrote to "All" (27 Jan 06 17:14:09)
--- on the heady topic of "Re: AWA tv repaired - 3 times still not working right:("

DN> From: David Nebenzahl <[email protected]>
DN> Xref: core-easynews sci.electronics.repair:356716

DN> [email protected] spake thus:


DN> You'll be better off for it. Read a book.


I watched an interview with the Italian movie star Marcello Mastroiani
on TV once where (paraphrasing) he stated TV is garbage, there is
nothing good to watch on TV except maybe the odd documentary about
animals. The man wasn't totally wrong except he didn't get the irony
of being interviewed for TV.
A*s*i*m*o*v

during my time studying media i attended a conference where it was
revealed that with the proliferation of private tv and pay tv channels
in Uk since the Broadcasting act 1990, the greatest increase in
programming (over 100%) was: old nature films. So , that leopard you
saw last week has probably been dead 10 years! But the channels are
raking it in, just buying up old stock and repeating as opposed to
actually investing in new stuff.
Disturbingly, non-news factual programming, such as documentaries or
debates, had dropped by 70% . So much for 'more choice'. TV seems to be
there for the sole aim of making people ignorant and uninformed. Sad
really given the potential for good use of such technology....
-rant mode off!-

-B.
 
T

Tech Data

Jan 1, 1970
0
John, risking beating a dead horse, I would give the tech the benefit
of the doubt that maybe he thought he had the short removed. Tell him
if he can't remove it, then he should refund at least most of what you
paid, minus a service charge. No matter what side of the counter you're
on, doing a halfass repair just to grab the money is wrong. On the
upside, if he'd try the 'flyback wrap', he might be able to resolve it.
I've had around a 90% success rate doing it.
 
the technician just collected the set again.I did mention the wrap
around and he said his testing said it wasn't a cathode short.So i'm
still at a loss. And for the benefit of anyone else who replies to this
post,I ain't whinging and I ain't going away! I thought that's what
this forum/group was for to post complaints/problems and hopefully get
solutions? Not insults!
 
J

James Sweet

Jan 1, 1970
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the technician just collected the set again.I did mention the wrap
around and he said his testing said it wasn't a cathode short.So i'm
still at a loss. And for the benefit of anyone else who replies to this
post,I ain't whinging and I ain't going away! I thought that's what
this forum/group was for to post complaints/problems and hopefully get
solutions? Not insults!


There's been a rash of trolls in here lately, just ignore them and
eventually they'll get bored I guess.

Anyhow feel free to report back with what happens, if there's a cathode
short the tech should mention it, usually repairs on that sort of thing
are a last ditch no guarantees type thing.
 
he says its working in the shop atm.but that always happens then i get
it back and it goes again. He says blue gun can't be replaced and the
tube isn't economical to replace.
reckons it's hard to fix an intermittent problem. Meanwhile i remain
$200 out of pocket and nothing to show for it.
I already posted details of original repair warranty,and the reference
to the short that was posted in here re a wire wrap around was in
response to that.Technician reckons that's not the problem.So maybe my
quote from repair warranty was misinterpreted,easy to do i guess.
Now am 10 days into this 1 month's warranty already. What happens when
it runs out?! F*** going a month without tv!:(
And for any retards that come in here i will continue to post and i;m
not going away or reading a book or any of your other stupid
suggestions!
Taking tv to another repair person means starting for scratch all over
again and more money! Seems a no win situation.
 
C

CRaSH

Jan 1, 1970
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you go away! Idiot

At least develop some manners if you're going to stick around. It's not
unusual in any group to have a topic drift off a bit, so don't get frothy
mouthed when/if it does.
 
f*** off dipshit!Telling someone to go away is not a case of drifting
off topic!It's a case of a deadbeat drop kick like you thinking he's
smart!If you've got nothing intelligent to say - then YOU go away!
A**hole!
 
C

CRaSH

Jan 1, 1970
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f*** off dipshit!Telling someone to go away is not a case of drifting
off topic!It's a case of a deadbeat drop kick like you thinking he's
smart!If you've got nothing intelligent to say - then YOU go away!
A**hole!

"> this has nothing to do with my original post - dickhead!"


Thank you for making my point....... :)
 
J

Just Another Theremin Fan

Jan 1, 1970
0
f*** off dipshit!Telling someone to go away is not a case of drifting
off topic!It's a case of a deadbeat drop kick like you thinking he's
smart!If you've got nothing intelligent to say - then YOU go away!
A**hole!

Cor is that the withdrawal symptoms from not watching the rot box?
 
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