Device to show when phone is in use

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Andy Petro

Jan 1, 1970
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Bell used to sell a device that told you when a phone was connected.
You placed it in series with the line and a light would indicate when
the line was busy. Any idea as to how to build one as they are no
longer sold.
 
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Ken Taylor

Jan 1, 1970
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Andy said:
Bell used to sell a device that told you when a phone was connected.
You placed it in series with the line and a light would indicate when
the line was busy. Any idea as to how to build one as they are no
longer sold.
Search on "telephone in use indicator". Plenty of circuits and ready-mades.

Ken
 
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Joe G \(Home\)

Jan 1, 1970
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****** Warning Some Countries forbid connection of non-government approved
telephone equipment OR tampering/tinkering with telephone line ****

*** If info is for educational purposes only ******


1st Understand the concept of phone not in use and hung-up.

How do you detect a phone is off hook.... what happens to the electrical
signals? Ask yourself those questions.



When the phone is on-hook (hung up) the phone has a higher DC resistance...
as if it were not connected....

When the phone is picked up a lower DC resistance is applied by the hook
switch to the phone line.

The lower DC resistance has 2 effects

1. Draws current from the phone exchange typically 20mA to 90mA depending
on how far from the exchange

2. The voltage drops from typically 48 volts to typically 6v ~ 18v
depending on how far you are away from the exchange.


OK.... you how have two effects you can measure....

current ... which requires a series in-line device

voltage.... measure the voltage across the phone point.... parallel circuit.




NOW.... when you measure electrical signals you should not effect the item
you are measuring.

So a series current or parallel voltage measurement is required.


Note... there are other complex factors involved..... but this info may
partly explain the DC characteristic of phone and exchanges.


JG
 
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Fred Bloggs

Jan 1, 1970
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Bell used to sell a device that told you when a phone was connected.
You placed it in series with the line and a light would indicate when
the line was busy. Any idea as to how to build one as they are no
longer sold.

The indicator circuit is required to present an ultra-high impedance to
the line when on hook. This little flasher from Tech-Lib does the job:
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Ian Stirling

Jan 1, 1970
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