virus from PDF link in here

[no one important]

I clicked on a link in here and got a keylogger virus
I cant remember witch thread.
Did anyone else get it?
It was a PDF link it said something about it will take awhile to open
with a dial up connection this was on friday the 20/aug/2005

 

[Dave Hinz]

I clicked on a link in here and got a keylogger virus
I cant remember witch thread.

Well, that tells us a few things:
1. You're behind on your updates and scans
2. You click on random things without being careful.

Did anyone else get it?

No, my unix boxes would be spectaclarly unimpressed by a virus.

It was a PDF link it said something about it will take awhile to open
with a dial up connection this was on friday the 20/aug/2005

It probably claimed to be a PDF, yes. Windows can be fooled by "double
extensions", so if they named it:
energy_report.pdf .exe
or something, your eyes will see it's a .pdf, but your system sees it as
a .exe and just runs it, because it's inherently insecure.

There's a few lessons here, and some of them don't even require
graduating from Windows to, well, anything else, to do.

 

[no one important]

Well, that tells us a few things:
1. You're behind on your updates and scans
2. You click on random things without being careful.


No, my unix boxes would be spectaclarly unimpressed by a virus.


It probably claimed to be a PDF, yes. Windows can be fooled by "double
extensions", so if they named it:
energy_report.pdf .exe
or something, your eyes will see it's a .pdf, but your system sees it as
a .exe and just runs it, because it's inherently insecure.

There's a few lessons here, and some of them don't even require
graduating from Windows to, well, anything else, to do.

Maybe it wasn't this group I am not sure.
Your assumptions are incorrect though. It was not a random clik and I have all the
latest XP updates.
Updates are made after the fact no one cant predict what the next hack will be.
BTW the way this was installed through my email *inbox * Netscape 7.0
The inbox itself became a .exe. I could have deleted the whole in box in safe mode
and lost all my saved emails but I was able to use a text editor to remove the bad
contents instead
People dont hack linux because you are the only one using it. Same goes for mac
users.

 

[no one important]

Let's all go bacj to MSDos because it doesn't get viruses...LOL

Lets all switch to cleanex or linux whatever it is ...........so they can
attack that.
I just cant stand mac/linux users bragging about how safe there POS OS is
when no one even gives a rats ass enough to even bother trying to hack it
because no uses it.

 

[no one important]

Keeping XP up to date will NOT protect you from viral infections. You
need some good antivirus software, and you need to keep it up to date.

Go to http://www.grisoft.com and get the free version of AVG. Update
it daily. It's better than McAfee, it's better than Norton (IMHO), and
no, I'm not connected with them.

And, Dave is not the only one using Unix/Linux. I use it too, as do lots
of other folks. You don't have be a hacker to use it, and if you tried it,
I think you'd like it.

Thanks for the hot tip? Are you talking to me? Or do you mean that there are still
people out there NOT using a antivirus prog? I use Fsecure BTW.
I didnt say that having XP udates keeps anyone/me protected alone in itself..
Ok then........... so what......... there are two of you using linux big deal tried it
and it didnt meet my needs at all.
My anti virus did detect it but after the fact/file was damaged.......... piss me off.

I just love this bullcrap that linux and mac is better.............thats as about as
stupid as the BETA versus VHS wars.
Sony got told didnt they lol..........they tried to screw the masses that better cost
more as if......

 

[no one important]

Dude!!! Drop the attitude! Unix-Linux-OS X *is* (are) inherently more
secure than Windows. More stable too! Live with it!

Sorry my VHS eat a tape today.

 

[no one important]

Dude!!! Drop the attitude! Unix-Linux-OS X *is* (are) inherently more
secure than Windows. More stable too! Live with it!

But thats ok I can jump into my Edsel and go get a new one

 

[no one important]

*plonk*

*see ya *

 

[Winston]

(...)

And, Dave is not the only one using Unix/Linux. I use it too, as do lots
of other folks. You don't have be a hacker to use it, and if you tried it,
I think you'd like it.

Roger that, over.

--Winston

 

[wmbjk]

*plonk*

"no one important" appears to be yet another of Gymmy Bob's sock
puppets. If you want to plonk them all you're going to need the whole
list, which is too long to type. "Solar Flare" is the one he's using
here most often now.

Wayne

 

[Dave Hinz]

Maybe it wasn't this group I am not sure.
Your assumptions are incorrect though. It was not a random clik

Um, OK, but if you don't even remember where you saw it, I'd say you
weren't all that aware of what you were doing.

and I have all the
latest XP updates.

And what about your antivirus and antispyware updates? I suspect that
at least the first are out of date. I'm not aware of any new keyloggers
in the last week, and I do get all the notifications. Therefore I would
suspect that it wasn't a day-zero exploit which bit you, therefore by
definition you're behind in your updates.

Updates are made after the fact no one cant predict what the next hack will be.

Right. But see the above about keyloggers and day-zero exploits.

BTW the way this was installed through my email *inbox * Netscape 7.0
The inbox itself became a .exe. I could have deleted the whole in box in safe mode
and lost all my saved emails but I was able to use a text editor to remove the bad
contents instead

If you say so.

People dont hack linux because you are the only one using it. Same goes for mac
users.

Well, no. You're confusing two issues - it takes motivation _and_
opportunity to make a virus work. Unix systems (Linux and BSD included
- which covers Mac) have been driving the financial world for decades -
the motivation surely would be there. What is lacking is the
opportunity. Unix/Linux/BSD/Mac all use the same security model, where
the user isn't allowed to mess up the system's files. Windows lets the
user break the system, which is why viruses work. It's not about
popularity, it's about vulnerability.

I'd be happy to discuss the matter in as much depth as you'd like.

Dave Hinz

 

[Dave Hinz]

Let's all go bacj to MSDos because it doesn't get viruses...LOL

Who said anything about MSDos? The only modern computing platform that
is susceptable to viruses is Windows. It's inherently insecure. This
is hardly news or controversial, it's fact.

But...you're not real big on facts there, are you, sparky.

 

[Dave Hinz]

Yup and there are Linux viruses too.

Cite please? (translation: I think you're full of shit and want to see
a credible source to back up your claim).

Geeeeeez. Now there are cell phone OS viruses too.

Lots of cellphones running Windows. You do the math.

 

[Dave Hinz]

Lets all switch to cleanex or linux whatever it is ...........so they can
attack that.
I just cant stand mac/linux users bragging about how safe there POS OS is
when no one even gives a rats ass enough to even bother trying to hack it
because no uses it.

Riiiight, nobody uses Unix. That's it, yup, it's all just a big
illusion. Sheesh. Enjoy your virus-infested OS; the two of you were
made for each other. In the meantime, at least consider keeping your
antivirus up to date, instead of coming here and whining about something
that you brought on yourself by a series of bad decisions.

 

[Dave Hinz]

Thanks for the hot tip? Are you talking to me? Or do you mean that there are still
people out there NOT using a antivirus prog? I use Fsecure BTW.

Then you didn't get the virus you claim you got, or you were behind on
your updates. Unless Fsecure knows about a day-zero exploit last week
which included a keylogger, which none of the others know about?

I didnt say that having XP udates keeps anyone/me protected alone in itself..
Ok then........... so what......... there are two of you using linux big deal tried it
and it didnt meet my needs at all.

Good. Stay with Windows. It's the AOL of operating systems.

My anti virus did detect it but after the fact/file was damaged.......... piss me off.

Sounds like you need a better...ah, nevermind.

I just love this bullcrap that linux and mac is better.............thats as about as
stupid as the BETA versus VHS wars.

Well, I'll agree that Unix isn't a better platform for viruses,
that much is true.

Sony got told didnt they lol..........they tried to screw the masses that better cost
more as if......

Sony lost the Beta/VHS battle because they wouldn't license their format
to people producing porn. Porn is a powerful force in the technology
industry. Somehow, I bet you'll even disagree with _that_ statement.

 

[Dave Hinz]

LOLOLO Ya' big baby!

You seem to think that "plonk" means "I can't handle it", when in
reality it means "My what an incredible waste of oxygen you are". Like
this:
<plonk>

Buh-bye.

 

[wmbjk]

I'd be happy to discuss the matter in as much depth as you'd like.

Dave Hinz

Please don't help Gymmy Bob! (aka "solar flare" and "no one
important") In his case getting a virus is a *good* thing. He posts
under so many names that he needs (at least) two ISPs (golden.net and
shaw.ca). He spends half his time complaining about bottom posters,
yet frequently bottom posts in a futile attempt to hide his identity.
I doubt that he ever leaves his chair, and he's probably juggling a
bunch of hardware and software and can't keep track of what's updated
and what isn't. So it's not much of a surprise when he gets confused,
as in this thread http://tinyurl.com/a5ahw where, as John Bengi and
three other user names, posted the same comment six times from both of
the ISPs he's using in the current thread. Except now he's using yet
two more IDs. He's fairly easy to spot - he adopts a new name, posts a
lot of usually (not so) wisecracks, and uses the word "troll" a lot.
If we out him here often enough when he's using the two aforementioned
Canadian ISPs, then perhaps he'll get tired of changing names and
posting via Google, and will go somewhere he belongs... like under a
bridge.

Wayne

 

[Dave Hinz]

Please don't help Gymmy Bob! (aka "solar flare" and "no one
important")

Ah. Well, it's already killfiled, so no worries there. Thanks though;
it's so hard to know (or care) if this is the same idiot or a new one.

 

[Me]

Dude!!! Drop the attitude! Unix-Linux-OS X *is* (are) inherently more
secure than Windows. More stable too! Live with it!

True enough, when was the last time you saw a Telephone Exchange Switch
go down due to a virus? That application is what Unix was written for
in the first place, by AT&T/Bell Labs before the breakup. Unix runs
over 90% of the Telco Switches Worldwide. If they were MIcroSquash OS's
you wouldn't make a phonecall....ever......


Me

 

[daestrom]

Cite please? (translation: I think you're full of shit and want to see
a credible source to back up your claim).

Try www.cert.org search for 'linux virus'. Not nearly as many as MS
product line, but still there are some.

daestrom