All about the Pain not the Dollars

[amdx]

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is blaming sequestration for its plan
to furlough hundreds of workers at power plants across the country, but
could end up canceling out any savings by paying out costly overtime to
keep the electricity flowing.

Read more: http://tinyurl.com/c26tb29

Mikek

 

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On Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:23:33 AM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

Just another example of the un-American swine civilians working for the Army attempting to sabotage the Presidency and Congress. There are provisions for exempting employees in critical occupational positions. The Army does not want to figure out how to do it so they can create a crisis, and of course coincidently publicize it as much as possible to the gullible American public. Looks like some senior management need to be put on permanent furlough and replaced with people who know how to make it work.

 

[mike]

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is blaming sequestration for its plan
to furlough hundreds of workers at power plants across the country, but
could end up canceling out any savings by paying out costly overtime to
keep the electricity flowing.

Read more: http://tinyurl.com/c26tb29

Mikek

40 years ago, the burden for a technical employee was 40% or so.
Can't imagine it's any less today with all the new requirements,
obamacare etc.

So, you pay 40% extra for some lazy employee to sit on his ass 40
hours a week...
Or you pay 50% overtime of the salary part just for the overtime
and keep people busy.

Every situation is different, but it's not as simple as it looks
on the surface.

Having said that...I'm not sure I want a temporary employee with
high turnover
running my nuclear power plant.

 

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Having said that...I'm not sure I want a temporary employee with

high turnover

running my nuclear power plant.

Aren't those hydroelectric plants in the story? Does the Army Corps of Engineers operate a nuclear power plant? The Army Nuclear Reactor Program was terminated in 1977.

 

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Yes, no, don't know. Commercial power reactors are run by the

utilities and are under the DOE, not DOD. That won't stop the

leftists, though. After all, they blamed the recent mortar accident

on sequestration, too.

The story is about their plants on the Missouri and their rogue civil service trying to blackmail the administration with a manufactured crisis. They own and operate 75 power plants nationwide, all hydroelectric, they do not operate nuclear power plants or have anything to do with nuclear.

 

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:42:34 -0700 (PDT),

The story is about their plants on the Missouri and their rogue civil service trying to blackmail the administration with a manufactured crisis. They own and operate 75 power plants nationwide, all hydroelectric, they do not operate nuclear power plants or have anything to do with nuclear.

I was specifically referring to:

"Having said that...I'm not sure I want a temporary employee with
high turnover running my nuclear power plant."

....as I thought you were.

 

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I was specifically referring to:



"Having said that...I'm not sure I want a temporary employee with

high turnover running my nuclear power plant."



...as I thought you were.

Okay, my point was the OP doesn't know what he's talking about because Army Corps of Engineers doesn't operate any nukes.

 

[Greegor]

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is blaming sequestration for its plan
to furlough hundreds of workers at power plants across the country, but
could end up canceling out any savings by paying out costly overtime to
keep the electricity flowing.

Read more:http://tinyurl.com/c26tb29

                         Mikek

Cuting the front line services is an old and
well known tactic that is a bit like holding
people hostage.

It's called the "close the washington monument" scam
it's also known as the "firemen first" ploy.

 

[amdx]

Okay, my point was the OP doesn't know what he's talking about because Army Corps of Engineers doesn't operate any nukes.

Geez, I was writing to apologize for adding nuclear to my post when I
looked again and see I didn't.
So my point stands, "Don't make cuts that will create additional costs"

Mikek

 

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Geez, I was writing to apologize for adding nuclear to my post when I

looked again and see I didn't.

So my point stands, "Don't make cuts that will create additional costs"



Mikek

They can't spend money they don't have. No one really cares what most of these fictional government operations do one way or the other. The main thing is their department-wide budget is reduced by the sequestration amount.

 

[Robert Baer]

Geez, I was writing to apologize for adding nuclear to my post when I
looked again and see I didn't.
So my point stands, "Don't make cuts that will create additional costs"

Mikek

....BUT that is EXACTLY what large companies do - they make ranDUMB cuts
to "save" money, and compound the error by hiring two college grads that
need 2 years of training to get up to speed - instead of hiring one "old
fart" that has 20-40 years of EXPERIENCE, because the wages of the kids
is less than that of the "old fart".

 

[amdx]

They can't spend money they don't have.

Are you talking about the US government?
Last I knew they spent 16 trillion they don't have.
Mikek

 

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  Are you talking about the US government?
Last I knew they spent 16 trillion they don't have.
                   Mikek

16.7.

 

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Cuting the front line services is an old and
well known tactic that is a bit like holding
people hostage.

It's called the "close the washington monument" scam
it's also known as the "firemen first" ploy.

If an outside group sought to leverage a small sum to cause the
maximum possible chaos, panic, and disruption of society--especially
to identify, target, and paralyze transportation and vital services--
to accomplish a political goal, what would we call that?

 

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Are you talking about the US government?

Last I knew they spent 16 trillion they don't have.

Mikek

That has to do with Congressional budgets and NOT money appropriated for specific purposes throughout the government. The individual departments and agencies can't spend more money than allocated in their appropriation, and they can't spend the money on something different from which it was allocated.

 

[amdx]

16.7.

A billion here a billion there, it's only hardworking taxpayers money,
if we have any left when it comes time to pay it back.
Mikek

 

[amdx]

If an outside group sought to leverage a small sum to cause the
maximum possible chaos, panic, and disruption of society--especially
to identify, target, and paralyze transportation and vital services--
to accomplish a political goal, what would we call that?

Obamanism?
Mikek

 

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  Obamanism?

No, think about it. Fear, chaos, and disruption, for political
ends...what do we call that?

 

[amdx]

No, think about it. Fear, chaos, and disruption, for political
ends...what do we call that?

I knew what you meant, just a little political comment.
TerrObamarism ?
Mikek

 

[rickman]

They don't need any help to show their incompetence. The current
administration is more than capable of sabotaging anything you can
name. Just as you are incapable of arguing without telling lies.


Why didn't Obama lay off his SS squad to save money?

LOL! Yes, perhaps Obama should lay off his SS squad. I mean, they used
to protect Hitler and he's been dead for some 70 years! The SS squad is
likely getting a little old in the tooth as well...