brinks home alarm hack

[alarman]

Spike wrote > My house is more attractive to lighting because I have two
grounds instead

of one?
I'm more concerned about step voltage than lightning. You're bluffing again,
do you even know what step voltage is?

<sound of pages turning rapidly>
Bass: Uh, step-down transformer, stepping relay, ah here we go; step
voltage, hmmmm...
js

 

[Spike]

I thought you might be intrigued by this, Jack. I think I blew Paradox board
this way once... when I replaced the board I had grounded, I DID NOT GROUND
the replacement and it and it didn't fry like the original did.
Inquiring minds want to know...

 

[Frank Olson]

Some knucklehead shooting off at the mouth about something he knows nothing
about doesn't help though, I could do that myself

But talking to yourself ain't as much fun... )

 

[alarman]

I thought you might be intrigued by this, Jack. I think I blew Paradox board
this way once... when I replaced the board I had grounded, I DID NOT GROUND
the replacement and it and it didn't fry like the original did.
Inquiring minds want to know...

We have almost no lightning here. I'm of the belief that no ground is better
than a so-so ground when it applies to alarm panels. I have seen more panels
ruined by poor grounding methods than as a result of having not been
grounded at all. YMMV

BTW, do you know what caused the Paradox board to fry? What exactly happened
to it?
js

 

[mike]

[email protected] (Bossman) wrote in message



I appreciate Alarman and Bossman's straightforward replies. Thanks so
much for your help!

monatronics uses properitary equipment (at least the ones ive runs
into), the customer may "own" the equipment, but if the reciever
number cant be changed.......whats the point?

 

[Mark Leuck]

[email protected] (chaddo) wrote in message

monatronics uses properitary equipment (at least the ones ive runs
into), the customer may "own" the equipment, but if the reciever
number cant be changed.......whats the point?

The receiver number can be changed

 

[RH.Campbell]

I'm going to wade into the "ground / no-ground" argument and say that I have
never grounded a panel in my life. And those I take over that are grounded,
are "ungrounded". Paradox received an order from Brazil for about 250,000
panels some years ago with the provision that those boards be set up to
resist damage from lightning strike. After they modified the boards, they
integrated that lightning protection (is there really such a thing?) into
the regular design of the boards.

I was about to tell you that I have rarely had any damage due to lightning
strike, but I have to go out this afternoon and replace either a keypad or a
main panel that got zapped (I think) from lightning voltage over the phone
line....

I still won't ground any panels though....

RHC

 

[G. Morgan]

Be happy your name isn't Bart.

Or bAss

 

[Frank Olson]

No, it is not voodoo. It is a simple electrical phenomenon. If you'd put
aside your vitriol for a bit perhaps you could learn something. By using
two unbonded grounds you are setting yourself up for more damage. Instead
of playing stupid games with Olson (who like you also knows almost nothing
about the subject) read what I've posted on related threads in this and the
useful news group.

Or... play stupid games with Olson and ignore the good advice you got.
After the next nearby hit fries the rest of your goodies maybe you'll learn
something.

Speaking of "hits"... Hey Bassey... What's Alarm Central Inc's Florida
license number??

No one said you have to put the phone lines at the front of the house. You
need a bonded ground though. That does not require moving the demarc
around. It does require some effort.

Speaking of "effort"... It musta taken some to "batten down", eh?? Hope
all is well...

We finally agree on something.

Heh... Right...

 

[Bossman]

monatronics uses properitary equipment (at least the ones ive runs
into), the customer may "own" the equipment, but if the reciever
number cant be changed.......whats the point?

If the customer finishes his contract, he can contact Monitroncs and
they can unlock all sections through downloading. Mark Leuck, a poster
to this group who works for Monitronics, can tell you more about that
if he wants.

Bossman

 

[Frank Olson]

Not more attractive. But by using two separate grounds you are definitely
more likely to suffer damage due to lightning.

What?? No quote from NEC??

You asked for advice. You received it and it was accurate. Now you reply
with rudeness. What a sad person you must be.

You asked for information (about independent out-of-state monitoring
facilities). You received it and it was accurate. You don't reply at
all... What a pathetic lying scumbag you must be...

Frank Olson
http://www.yoursecuritysource.com

 

[Matthew Stanley]

You most likley will have to have Brinks come out and default the alarm
panel and have them program a new code. do you know the model number?

Matthew

www.armor-security.com

 

[chaddo]

You most likley will have to have Brinks come out and default the alarm
panel and have them program a new code. do you know the model number?

Matthew

www.armor-security.com

I can't see the model number from the alarm panel. Could it be listed
somewhere else?

 

[G. Morgan]

Someone named [email protected] (chaddo) Proclaimed on 20
Aug 2004 19:08:41 -0700,

I can't see the model number from the alarm panel. Could it be listed
somewhere else?

As you were already told, Brinks uses proprietary panels. You can NOT
reprogram the system, PERIOD.

You have but three options:

1> Pay Brinks
2> Buy a new panel and keypad(s)
3> Leave the system powered down

There is a fourth option, albeit not an honest one. If you can find a
Brinks technician and bribe him to program a new master code and make
the panel function as a local alarm. That might be easier than you
think, Brinks techs are underpaid. (I worked there once)