Electronic Faucet

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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Hello Zak,
Anyway there are faucents that detect hands coming nearby. The
interesting thing is the low power: they are battery operated. One
claims a 1 year running time running on 4 AAA batteries and 4000
operations per month.
That's what they all claim. I kind of believed it until we took care of
a neighbor's house and garden. They had one of those battery operated
sprinkler timers that say 'guaranteed energy reserve to close'. Well, at
the end of the cycle, errrrrr ... rat ... tat ... tat ... beeeep ...
silence. The dang thing didn't turn off and the hand valve was somewhere
inside the garage.

Regards, Joerg
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Hello Jim,
You don't have to drive in bumper-to-bumper traffic.

That's true. But even in the days when I had to that didn't bother me
much. An automatic can really throw you a curve when it's icy out there
or when you have to crawl up a steep mud "road" in heavy rain. Not much
of a concern in Phoenix, of course :)

Regards, Joerg
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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Hello Zak,

That's what they all claim. I kind of believed it until we took care of
a neighbor's house and garden. They had one of those battery operated
sprinkler timers that say 'guaranteed energy reserve to close'. Well, at
the end of the cycle, errrrrr ... rat ... tat ... tat ... beeeep ...
silence. The dang thing didn't turn off and the hand valve was somewhere
inside the garage.

Probably a substandard BOR circuit.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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quietguy

Jan 1, 1970
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Good for hygene - remember that people turn the tap on with hands that
have just been on thei privates etc - so you wash your hands clean, then
touch that dirty tap handle to turn the water off. Was/is a big problem
for infection control in hospitals who haven't fitted foot or electronic
on/off taps

David
 
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spinning

Jan 1, 1970
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so you wash your hands clean, then touch that dirty tap handle to turn the water off.
Was/is a big problem for infection control in hospitals who haven't fitted foot or
electronic on/off taps

I thought hand washing was for employees only. j/k ;-)

But seriously, as I'm washing my hands, I usually also wash the tap
handles; it only takes a few seconds. The problem is with some sinks
when you rinse the soap off the handles, the water doesn't always drain
back into the sink and it can make kind of a mess. Also, I sometimes
use my elbow to dispense the paper towels, then use the paper towel to
open the door. Ah, clean hands!
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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I thought hand washing was for employees only. j/k ;-)

But seriously, as I'm washing my hands, I usually also wash the tap
handles; it only takes a few seconds. The problem is with some sinks
when you rinse the soap off the handles, the water doesn't always drain
back into the sink and it can make kind of a mess. Also, I sometimes
use my elbow to dispense the paper towels, then use the paper towel to
open the door. Ah, clean hands!

At MIT they taught us not to piss on our hands ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
At MIT they taught us not to piss on our hands ;-)

...Jim Thompson


Its really sad that you had to wait till college to learn that.

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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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quietguy

Jan 1, 1970
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spinning said:
But seriously, as I'm washing my hands, I usually also wash the tap
handles; it only takes a few seconds.

Me too
The problem is with some sinks
when you rinse the soap off the handles, the water doesn't always drain
back into the sink and it can make kind of a mess.

I dont care as I really dont want to catch something nasty
Also, I sometimes
use my elbow to dispense the paper towels, then use the paper towel to
open the door. Ah, clean hands!

Me too

Cheers

David
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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At NSW you had to know that to get in

David

That's just a line out of an old Harvard/MIT joke...

Two guys go into the john (one from Harvard, one from MIT), and take a
leak.

When they're finished the MIT guy heads for the door.

The Harvard guy remarks, "At Haaah-vaaahd they teach us to wash our
hands after we urinate."

To which the MIT guy replies, "At MIT they teach us not to piss on our
hands."

...Jim Thompson
 
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Paul Mathews

Jan 1, 1970
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Spehro said:
My wall switch timer for electric lights uses a tiny electric motor
and a gear train and cam to operate a microswitch. A single AAA
alkaline battery powers it for something like a year. It will switch
120, 240 or whatever, the microcontroller and all runs from the single
cell, so the microswitch is the only thing that needs to be connected
to the outside world. The circuitry wouldn't even have to be hot if
they didn't use the NC contact of the microswitch to tell the micro
the switch state.

It also turns the lights on at a calculated dusk time based on the
calendar and approximate latitude. Not bad for $35 US.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Battery-operated water control devices generally use a pilot type of
valve, i.e., a valve with 2 fluid circuits, one small and one large.
The small 'pilot' circuit has a tiny solenoid valve that doesn't
require much current. The small flow in the pilot circuit is used to
operate a much larger valve. It's a kind of hydraulic amplifier, using
the water pressure as a free source of energy. The longest-life devices
use magnet-biased solenoids, so the pilot solenoid is pulsed on and
off. The Sloan Optima series is rated for 5 yrs or 50K flushes, and
it's an honest spec. The power budget for the 4AA cells was divided
about equally among these consumers: CMOS microcontroller,
photoelectric sensor circuitry, solenoid driving, and battery
self-discharge.
Most of the reliability issues with electronic water control is due to
particulates in the water supply that clog the tiny pilot circuits.
There are several important patents relating to how to design the
internals such that they don't tend to clog. The ubiquitous Sloan
Royal's success was originally based on its patented centrifugal inner
chamber, that forced larger particles in the water away from the pilot
orifices.
Paul Mathews
 
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Paul E. Schoen

Jan 1, 1970
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That's just a line out of an old Harvard/MIT joke...
Two guys go into the john (one from Harvard, one from MIT), and take a
leak.

When they're finished the MIT guy heads for the door.

The Harvard guy remarks, "At Haaah-vaaahd they teach us to wash our
hands after we urinate."

To which the MIT guy replies, "At MIT they teach us not to piss on our
hands."

...Jim Thompson


I heard the same joke, but it was about a Marine and a Navy Guy. I forget
which was which.

Paul E. Schoen
(JHU Army ROTC 1966-1969)
 
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Pooh Bear

Jan 1, 1970
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Paul E. Schoen said:
I heard the same joke, but it was about a Marine and a Navy Guy. I forget
which was which.

Likewise but with Boeing and McDonnell Douglas.

Graham
 
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Pooh Bear

Jan 1, 1970
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spinning said:
I thought hand washing was for employees only. j/k ;-)

But seriously, as I'm washing my hands, I usually also wash the tap
handles; it only takes a few seconds. The problem is with some sinks
when you rinse the soap off the handles, the water doesn't always drain
back into the sink and it can make kind of a mess. Also, I sometimes
use my elbow to dispense the paper towels, then use the paper towel to
open the door. Ah, clean hands!

If travelling to certain Asian destinations you might care to clean the whole sink area
carefuly before using it yourself.

Graham
 
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redbelly

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank said:
Search your own house. Good chance you find a machine that
somehow takes water, all automatically. Next step is to find
some screwdrivers and explore the inside of the machine.

First step is to make sure your laundry is all caught up. It may be
a while before you have a functioning washing machine again! :)

Mark
 
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Ted Edwards

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg said:
much. An automatic can really throw you a curve when it's icy out there
or when you have to crawl up a steep mud "road" in heavy rain.

I've been driving various Jeep wagons for the last 25 years. All had
automatics and all gave me all the manual control I needed including
hiway, mud (what we call "loon shit" in this country) and loose desert
sand. Convenience of the automatic in city and paved hiway and control
when needed.

Ted
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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Likewise but with Boeing and McDonnell Douglas.

Graham

Army & Air Force, and it was the Air Force guy who didn't piss on his
hands. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
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Elect Me President in 2008! I will:
A. Fire the IRS, and abolish the income tax
B. Legalize drugs
C. Stand down all military actions by the US that don't involve actual
military aggression against US territory
D. Declare World Peace I.
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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If travelling to certain Asian destinations you might care to clean the whole sink area
carefuly before using it yourself.

Graham

I once saw a very cook toilet tank in Japan - the tank top was a basin,
with a hole in the bottom, and the fill pipe was a spout like a water
faucet, presumably so you could wash your hands right there, and then
your hand-wash water would go into the tank for the next flush.

Now _there's_ a water-saver toilet! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
--
Elect Me President in 2008! I will:
A. Fire the IRS, and abolish the income tax
B. Legalize drugs
C. Stand down all military actions by the US that don't involve actual
military aggression against US territory
D. Declare World Peace I.
 
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Rich Grise, but drunk

Jan 1, 1970
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:37:01 GMT, quietguy

I learned long before I was college age! ;-D

http://www.neodruid.net/images/Videos/001.mpg

Cheers!
Rich
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