I dropped the tv ( Sony circa December 1985)

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Accidents HAPPEN

Jan 1, 1970
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It fell face down from about 2 feet off the floor. No pieces fell off
of it but now the picture's lower left hand corner is Red-ish and the
right hand corner is Green-ish. Fiddling with the buttons hasnt helped
change this situation. I would love to fix this. Advice would be
appreciated.

I dropped it when I was sliding it around the NEW tv cart I got for it
because I figured a sturdy cart was cheaper than getting a newer,
lightweight tv. Now I have to wait for someone to come home to grab the
other side's HANDLE so we can lift this back on the cart.
 
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Accidents HAPPEN

Jan 1, 1970
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Accidents said:
It fell face down from about 2 feet off the floor. No pieces fell off
of it but now the picture's lower left hand corner is Red-ish and the
right hand corner is Green-ish. Fiddling with the buttons hasnt helped
change this situation. I would love to fix this. Advice would be
appreciated.

I dropped it when I was sliding it around the NEW tv cart I got for it
because I figured a sturdy cart was cheaper than getting a newer,
lightweight tv. Now I have to wait for someone to come home to grab the
other side's HANDLE so we can lift this back on the cart.
 
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Ricky Eck

Jan 1, 1970
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Humm, just shooting out an idea, see if it may work. Maybe if they took it
to a shop, and have them shoot the Tube?
Rick
 
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Accidents HAPPEN

Jan 1, 1970
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Ricky said:
Humm, just shooting out an idea, see if it may work. Maybe if they took it
to a shop, and have them shoot the Tube?
Rick


Thanks. What would be a fair price for that type of work? I'm in NYC
where everyone seems to have the latest models.
 
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LASERandDVDfan

Jan 1, 1970
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It fell face down from about 2 feet off the floor. No pieces fell off
of it but now the picture's lower left hand corner is Red-ish and the
right hand corner is Green-ish. Fiddling with the buttons hasnt helped
change this situation.

Try using a degaussing coil, since you really don't have anything to lose.

Unfortunately, it is most likely that the internal components of the picture
tube have been shifted from the shock of the drop.

This means that the tube is internally damaged and the only way to repair this
problem is to replace the picture tube.

DO NOT continue use of this set! This kind of picture tube damage presents a
potentially serious implosion hazard as the internal structure of the picture
tube is compromised, thus it's ability to resist implosion may also be
affected.

Replacing the picture tube is not going to be practical and it certainly isn't
going to be cheap. Your TV set is very old so replacement tubes may no longer
be available. Even if they were, it would not be worth the effort and money
given the age of the TV set. Replacement tubes are expensive as well as the
labor to install the tube and recalibrate the set. There may be many other
components in the TV that could have drifted out of tolerance so much that the
set could develop another problem after the new picture tube installation.

Repeating the recommendation of another poster here, I think it's time to
consider buying a new television.

IMO, Sony is still an excellent choice, if not one of the very best choices. -
Reinhart
 
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Ricky Eck

Jan 1, 1970
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To be honest with you, I don't know. It has been many years since I worked
in a TV shop. And even shooting the tube does not guarantee that it is
going to work. Kinda a last shot before disposing the TV, or replacing the
tube. But one of the other guys on here, may be able to give you an
estimate, and if it even can be done....
Hope that helps,
Rick
 
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RonKZ650

Jan 1, 1970
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You can still use the set if you don't mind the corner discoloration. If the
glass didn't implode when it hit the floor, it sure isn't going to happen by
simply watching TV. Shooting will not help this problem. If the discoloration
is minor a reputable shop can add correction magnets to the back of the tube.
Chances are slim though. You're tube is damaged.
Ron
 
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Ricky Eck

Jan 1, 1970
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Try using a degaussing coil, since you really don't have anything to lose.

I was thinking of this also, but I couldn't remember how to spell it, so I
was hoping someone would bring it up..:) LOL

Rick
 
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Jason D.

Jan 1, 1970
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CRT is now No Good go buy a new set.

kip

Hmm.

Next time consider this as warning for others NOT to drop any stuff or
put tvs in a way it wants to fall.

New regular tubes and canadian $:
20" is about 250ish.
27" tubes is about 300+ to 500
32" is 1,400

Flat ones bit high even higher.

But once in awhile customer is lucky that only broken was cracked
traces with good tube.

And that's not customer's prices btw!

By the way have a care. Not from Sears espcially Sonys! I wondered
if Sony had cut corners on those just for Sear's deal also only 1 year
warranty. We had that and didn't last long, 3 yr for 800 bux 27" it
was tube. That cheap 19" goldstar had Sony beat, 6 year before had
to get it fixed. That's GOOD.

Cheers,

Wizard
 
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Ross Herbert

Jan 1, 1970
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I think you can forget about any possibility of a repair being
succesful. Sony shadowmask tubes are particularly susceptible to
damage after being dropped. The shadowmask itself will generally
become distorted and since this is an internal mechanical problem
there is no way to re-align it. The only solution is to replace the
picture tube and this can be more expensive than buying a new TV.

See this account from a customer who had his Sony TV damaged during a
furniture removal.
http://www.epinions.com/content_109848792708


|It fell face down from about 2 feet off the floor. No pieces fell off
|of it but now the picture's lower left hand corner is Red-ish and the
|right hand corner is Green-ish. Fiddling with the buttons hasnt helped
|change this situation. I would love to fix this. Advice would be
|appreciated.
|
|I dropped it when I was sliding it around the NEW tv cart I got for it
|because I figured a sturdy cart was cheaper than getting a newer,
|lightweight tv. Now I have to wait for someone to come home to grab the
|other side's HANDLE so we can lift this back on the cart.
 
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LASERandDVDfan

Jan 1, 1970
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I think you can forget about any possibility of a repair being
succesful. Sony shadowmask tubes are particularly susceptible to
damage after being dropped.

Sony Trinitron picture tubes do not employ a shadow mask. They employ an
aperture grille. There's a substantially big difference between the two.
See this account from a customer who had his Sony TV damaged during a
furniture removal.
http://www.epinions.com/content_109848792708

How convenient in that you disregard various details in the story which tells
us more about what happened and ultimately puts the credibility of your claim
into question. You didn't even properly specify what was going on which led to
the damage. This wasn't a mere furniture removal. This was a transcontinental
move from California to North Carolina. That's literally a move from the west
coast to the east coast of the United States! That's one hell of a furniture
removal!

First off, most moving companies, such as Mayflower or Bekins, have a notorious
reputation of destroying items during transit.

Secondly, the story reveals certain details about how the TV was damaged. Upon
examination by a certified Sony repair professional, the TV set yielded
substantial physical evidence of mishandling. A small crack on the casing of
the TV and a severely damaged mainboard both suggest that the set suffered a
substantial impact, likely due to mishandling. Those details that you did not
note were present in the Epinions review.

The Epinions article you've presented doesn't support your claim against Sony
TV sets. All the article does is suggest that a TV set can be severely damaged
by careless movers. Any other brand of TV would have yielded similar problems
had they been mishandled in the same fashion. If there was a drop substantial
enough to damage the mainboard and crack the casing, it's likely that the tube
will have been damaged as well. - Reinhart
 
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Ross Herbert

Jan 1, 1970
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On 17 Jun 2004 03:24:56 GMT, [email protected] (LASERandDVDfan)
wrote:

|>I think you can forget about any possibility of a repair being
|>succesful. Sony shadowmask tubes are particularly susceptible to
|>damage after being dropped.
|
|Sony Trinitron picture tubes do not employ a shadow mask. They employ an
|aperture grille. There's a substantially big difference between the two.

You are correct in that the trinitron is not a shadow mask tube.
Nevertheless, the point of the post was to indicate that the trinitron
aperture grill is susceptible to damage due to physical shock. Any
tube, trinitron or not is likely to have either the shadow mask or the
aperture grill knocked out of alignment when dropped.


|>See this account from a customer who had his Sony TV damaged during a
|>furniture removal.
|>http://www.epinions.com/content_109848792708


|
|How convenient in that you disregard various details in the story which tells
|us more about what happened and ultimately puts the credibility of your claim
|into question. You didn't even properly specify what was going on which led to
|the damage. This wasn't a mere furniture removal. This was a transcontinental
|move from California to North Carolina. That's literally a move from the west
|coast to the east coast of the United States! That's one hell of a furniture
|removal!

Listen up, don't be a nit picker...

I could have cut and pasted the relevant parts of that story to point
out the simple fact that mishandling/shock/dropping a tv during
transport can produce similar results to that described by the op. The
fact that a removal company was involved was immaterial. I thought
readers would find this obvious without me going to a lot of trouble
to cut and paste. The point of that story is simply that after
mishandling by (in this case transporting) the sony tv had sustained
some damage to the picture tube which could only be repaired by a tube
replacement at great expense.
|
|First off, most moving companies, such as Mayflower or Bekins, have a notorious
|reputation of destroying items during transit.
|
|Secondly, the story reveals certain details about how the TV was damaged. Upon
|examination by a certified Sony repair professional, the TV set yielded
|substantial physical evidence of mishandling. A small crack on the casing of
|the TV and a severely damaged mainboard both suggest that the set suffered a
|substantial impact, likely due to mishandling. Those details that you did not
|note were present in the Epinions review.
|
|The Epinions article you've presented doesn't support your claim against Sony
|TV sets. All the article does is suggest that a TV set can be severely damaged
|by careless movers. Any other brand of TV would have yielded similar problems
|had they been mishandled in the same fashion. If there was a drop substantial
|enough to damage the mainboard and crack the casing, it's likely that the tube
|will have been damaged as well. - Reinhart
 
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LASERandDVDfan

Jan 1, 1970
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Listen up, don't be a nit picker...

Specifying very significant details that you either ignored or didn't factor is
not nit-picking.

Reading your post establishes the idea that Sony TV sets are not durable.
Posting a hyperlink to an Epinions article with a very vague description of
what the post was about tends to strengthen the impression you are trying to
create with your wrtiting.

However, when someone with any sense with electronics repair reads the article,
they'll find the particular scenario from that story would cause damage to ANY
TV set.
The point of that story is simply that after
mishandling by (in this case transporting) the sony tv had sustained
some damage to the picture tube which could only be repaired by a tube
replacement at great expense.

But what degree was the mishandling taken to? Apparently, according to the
Epinions article, a lot.

The story also describes that the mainboard had to be replaced by the
technician just to get the set to turn on in the first place.

If a drop was enough to destroy the original mainboard, then it may also be
enough to shift the innards of a picture tube. The larger the tube, the more
susceptible it is to this kind of damage. I don't care if it's a Sony, a
Toshiba, a Panasonic, or a Loewe. If a drop damages the mainboard to the
extent that it won't work anymore, then it's likely that the tube could be
trashed as well.

I stand by my arguments and feel that your claims are in error by bad example.
- Reinhart
 
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Ross Herbert

Jan 1, 1970
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On 18 Jun 2004 03:41:57 GMT, [email protected] (LASERandDVDfan)
wrote:

|>Listen up, don't be a nit picker...
|
|Specifying very significant details that you either ignored or didn't factor is
|not nit-picking.
|
|Reading your post establishes the idea that Sony TV sets are not durable.


As I said I could have spent time cutting and pasting only the
relevant parts and if you were not intelligent enough to compare the
fact that the OP "dropped his Sony TV some 2 feet" and the Epinions
article that considerable damage resulting in the need to replace the
picture tube due to mishandling, then I can't help you. It is a sad
fact that any tv, when dropped or roughly handled during transport
(ie, dropped such that only minor indications of physical damage were
noticeable) is highly likely to distort either the shadow mask or the
aperture grille. That is the whole gist of the story. It seems you are
not able to decipher the relevant aspects in a story and throow out
the bits which are not relevant to the original priblem posed by the
OP.

|Posting a hyperlink to an Epinions article with a very vague description of
|what the post was about tends to strengthen the impression you are trying to
|create with your wrtiting.

Crap, the article relates a story of a Sony TV which sustained damage
during transport. To make it easy for a person with limited
intelligence to understand here is the relevant part of the story as
it relates to the OP's problem.

Following Cathie’s advice, I took the television to Audio Video
Specialists in Durham, NC, who is a Sony-authorized repair center.
Kevin, the repair engineer at AVS diassembled the television, replaced
the PC logic board with one from another television in his shop and
determined that the TV’s cathode ray tube (CRT) had a damaged ‘shadow
mask’, ( sic) which means that it would cost more to repair the TV
($1,491.50) than the TV is currently worth (~$1,000). He noted that
the only way such damage could occur was by being dropped and wrote
“Shows Signs of Shipping Damage” on his report to Mayflower.

|
|However, when someone with any sense with electronics repair reads the article,
|they'll find the particular scenario from that story would cause damage to ANY
|TV set.
|
|>The point of that story is simply that after
|>mishandling by (in this case transporting) the sony tv had sustained
|>some damage to the picture tube which could only be repaired by a tube
|>replacement at great expense.
|
|But what degree was the mishandling taken to? Apparently, according to the
|Epinions article, a lot.
|
|The story also describes that the mainboard had to be replaced by the
|technician just to get the set to turn on in the first place.
|
|If a drop was enough to destroy the original mainboard, then it may also be
|enough to shift the innards of a picture tube. The larger the tube, the more
|susceptible it is to this kind of damage. I don't care if it's a Sony, a
|Toshiba, a Panasonic, or a Loewe. If a drop damages the mainboard to the
|extent that it won't work anymore, then it's likely that the tube could be
|trashed as well.
|
|I stand by my arguments and feel that your claims are in error by bad example.
|- Reinhart

And I stand by my argument that you obviously need every i dotted and
every t crossed and you are unable to sift wheat from the chaff in a
story.
 
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Ross Herbert

Jan 1, 1970
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On 18 Jun 2004 03:41:57 GMT, [email protected] (LASERandDVDfan)
wrote:


|Reading your post establishes the idea that Sony TV sets are not durable.

???
How you can draw that assumption from a story of damage to a Sony TV
during transport, I can't imagine. The story is more to do with the
reliability of the transport company and the care which they provide
to the goods they are transporting.


|Posting a hyperlink to an Epinions article with a very vague description of
|what the post was about tends to strengthen the impression you are trying to
|create with your wrtiting.

More wild assumptions...
I am not trying give any impression other than physical shock (ie
dropping or rough handling) to a tv can cause internal damage to the
picture tube which requires this item to be replaced at great expense.

|
|However, when someone with any sense with electronics repair reads the article,
|they'll find the particular scenario from that story would cause damage to ANY
|TV set.

Unless it is established specifically what sort of "rough handling"
the particular Sony TV was subjected to, we can't draw that
conclusion, and I did not infer what you assume I did. It is
sufficient to say that this particular TV set had been handled in a
manner which caused internal damage to the picture tube such that it
required replacing.

BTW, I am a strong supporter of Sony products and my household boasts
these items;

(the age of some of these will give an idea as to Sony reliability)

Transistor radio
ICF-SW7600 x 1
ICF-7600A x 1

Television
KV C25TD

VCR
SLV 757

Digital tuner
S570ES

Headphones
MDR CD7

Video monitor
Multiscan 400PS

at least 2 CD rom or CD writers in computers.

How many Sony items do you have?
 
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LASERandDVDfan

Jan 1, 1970
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As I said I could have spent time cutting and pasting only the
relevant parts and if you were not intelligent enough to compare the
fact that the OP "dropped his Sony TV some 2 feet" and the Epinions
article that considerable damage resulting in the need to replace the
picture tube due to mishandling, then I can't help you.

Quotes taken verbatim from the Epinions article:

Before the packing:

"On the day of the move, Excel’s packing team came to my house in Union City,
CA to wrap and box nearly everything in the house. While they worked, my
daughter was watching a show on our 36� Sony flat-panel TV, which was hooked
up to our home theater system. When it came time to prepare the TV for moving,
they directed us to unplug the TV. At that point, the television was obviously
in perfect working order."

After the move:

In particular, the damaged items which prompt my dissatisfaction with Excel
Moving Services were: The Sony Wega TV described above, the television simply
would not turn on"

Interesting. The TV set would not turn on after the move.

"I took the television to Audio Video Specialists in Durham, NC, who is a
Sony-authorized repair center. Kevin, the repair engineer at AVS diassembled
the television, replaced the PC logic board with one from another television in
his shop and determined that the TV’s cathode ray tube (CRT) had a damaged
‘shadow mask’,"

The technician had to replace the mainboard first before discovering that the
picture tube was damaged. On a set that is as well built as a Sony, it would
take a fairly substantial shock to inflict the kind of damage on the mainboard
that would keep the television from powering on in the first place. Sony sets
of that size typically have well secured mainboards and extensive metal
shielding covering all over the outside rear of the picture tube. They also
have fairly substantial structural support due to the sheer weight of a large
TV, especially Sony sets.

"He noted that the only way such damage could occur was by being dropped and
wrote 'Shows Signs of Shipping Damage' on his report to Mayflower. Only after
reassembling the TV and while attempting to use the bezel as a handhold while
moving it to another location in his shop did he notice the slight crack in the
decorative bezel below the TV. He also noted the cracked bezel on his report."

This means that the drop was substantial enough to damage the mainboard, damage
the picture tube, and crack the casing.

All these parts cannot be damaged by a small drop or small incidences of shock,
especially the mainboard which is typically immobolized fairly effectively on a
Sony TV. Since the shock was substantial enough to damage the mainboard,
despite how it was assembled into place, that same shock would likely be more
than enough to wreak havoc on the innards of the picture tube.
It is a sad
fact that any tv, when dropped or roughly handled during transport
(ie, dropped such that only minor indications of physical damage were
noticeable) is highly likely to distort either the shadow mask or the
aperture grille.

That goes against your claim that specifies only Sony tubes as being
susceptible.

"Sony shadowmask tubes are particularly susceptible to damage after being
dropped."

At first, you claim that Sony tubes are particularly susceptible to damage when
dropped. Now you come out and say that "any TV" will likely suffer damage to
the picture tube if subject to excess shock.

You change your statement from a specific accusation to a broad generalization.

And, I say your statement of Sony tubes being "particularly susceptible to
damage after being dropped" an accusation because there is no other definition
of your statement. It is an accusation, pure and simple.

If you disagree, then you need to go back to school and study English.
It seems you are
not able to decipher the relevant aspects in a story and throow out
the bits which are not relevant to the original priblem posed by the
OP.

And you are too ingrained on your opinion that you are unable to view it in
much broader context.

You make an accusation and support it with a story that reveals more about what
happened and consequently downplays your claim. You didn't read the story well
enough to understand everything that could have happened to cause all that
damage.

First off, the author of the Epinions article hired a moving company that's as
trustworthy as Dan Quayle is proficient at spelling "potato." (Since you live
in Australia, you won't get this joke unless you remember that Dan Quayle was
Vice President under George Bush SR. [not to be confused with his son and
current president George W. Bush] from 1988 to 1992 in American politics who
earned a distinction of being an idiot by spelling potato "potatoe" at a public
speech.)

Second, the TV traveled approximately 2800 miles from California to North
Carolina. Anything could have happened between those locations during the
journey that may have caused the TV set to become damaged. This is exacerbated
if the items were not properly secured in the trailer. Anything, like abrupt
maneuvering, potholes, sudden braking, and the like can create the potential of
the load being dislodged and allowed to jostle inside the trailer.

Third, moving companies, like Mayflower, have storage facilities where items
may be taken out of the truck and placed in storage rooms until the items are
ready to be delivered to their final destination. The labor force hired to do
the moving of the items out of the truck and back into it may not have been as
careful as the folks who packed the truck back at the starting point.

Forth, substantial damage to items at the hands of moving companies, especially
if the load traveled a long distance, are not uncommon occurances in the United
States. People have had TVs, sofas, tables, guitar amps, chairs, console
stereos, lamps, paintings and pictures, and the like damaged or destroyed
during transit. I've read about them and I've seen the damage done to such
traveled items first hand while working at a repair shop.
And I stand by my argument that you obviously need every i dotted and
every t crossed and you are unable to sift wheat from the chaff in a
story.

And I guess you like being too lazy and prone to premature condemnation. -
Reinhart
 
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LASERandDVDfan

Jan 1, 1970
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|Reading your post establishes the idea that Sony TV sets are not durable.
???
How you can draw that assumption from a story of damage to a Sony TV
during transport, I can't imagine.

What you typed, verbatim.

"Sony shadowmask tubes are particularly susceptible to damage after being
dropped."

You typed this. Read it, and read it again. Your wording here most certainly
suggests what I claim about your contention.

It is an accusation that clearly narrows down to the subject. You clearly
typed that Sony picture tubes are "particularly susceptible to damage after
being dropped." You don't cite what kind of drop and you don't cite to what
degree, you just cite "a drop" which is a generalization. You make a clear
accusation with a broad and general description that allows the impression that
"Sony TVs are not durable" to be made in the first place.

If this was not the intended response to your statement, then you either need
to brush up on your writing skills or you could give Micheal Moore a run for
his money.
The story is more to do with the
reliability of the transport company and the care which they provide
to the goods they are transporting.

If you recognize the story to be off-topic and unrelated to begin with, then
why did you bother to bring it up in the first place?
I am not trying give any impression other than physical shock (ie
dropping or rough handling) to a tv can cause internal damage to the
picture tube which requires this item to be replaced at great expense.

Now you made it more logical, but contradictory to your original claim. Now
you state that any TV will sustain internal damage in the picture tube from a
severe shock, which was the statement I originally made in response to your
statement a day ago.

My response, as quoted:

"The Epinions article you've presented doesn't support your claim against Sony
TV sets. All the article does is suggest that a TV set can be severely damaged
by careless movers. Any other brand of TV would have yielded similar problems
had they been mishandled in the same fashion. If there was a drop substantial
enough to damage the mainboard and crack the casing, it's likely that the tube
will have been damaged as well."

Originally, you stated clearly and specifically that Sony picture tubes were
"particularly susceptible," now you say that all TVs will sustain damage in a
generalization.

If you were to hold on to your argument, you would have to say that "all TVs
would be vulnerable, but Sony TVs are more susceptible than anything else."

Since you are not wording your recent responses like this, you're not even
supporting your original contention anymore. Yet, you still want to get into a
pissing contest about this.
Unless it is established specifically what sort of "rough handling"
the particular Sony TV was subjected to, we can't draw that
conclusion, and I did not infer what you assume I did.

Then why did you make the accusation about Sony TV sets being "particularly
susceptible" to drop damage to begin with?
BTW, I am a strong supporter of Sony products and my household boasts
these items;

And what relevance does this statement have to this subject?

Being a Sony supporter or not is irrelevant.
Getting the facts straight, on the other hand, has been taking place on this
thread.
How many Sony items do you have?

Okay. Since we have to get into a pissing contest about equipment:

Sony KV-27S66 television
Sony SL-HF400 SuperBeta hi-fi VCR
Sony SL-HF2000 SuperBeta hi-fi VCR
Sony SL-20 Betamax VCR
Sony SVO-160 VHS hi-fi VCR
Sony SLV-575UC VHS hi-fi VCR
Sony SLV-750HF VHS hi-fi VCR
Sony MDR-600 Monitor Headphones
Sony CPD-200GS monitor
Sony CPD-100SF montior
Sony SCPH-1001 PlayStation
Sony SCPH-30000 R PlayStation 2
Sony MDP-1000 LaserDisc player
Sony STR-DA4ES Digital Surround Receiver
Sony DVP-S360 DVD/CD Player
Sony ICF-C121 Clock Radio Alarm
Sony CDX-C560 MobileES car stereo
Sony CRX-140E Spressa IDE CD-RW
Sony CCD-TRV58 Hi-8 Camcorder
Sony SPP-95 Cordless Telephone
Sony SPP-S9101 Cordless Telephone
Sony M-540V Microcassette Recorder
Sony CPS-88S Multiband Radio Boombox
Sony D-105 Portable CD Player
Sony WM-FX403 Radio/Cassette Walkman
Sony WM-FX38 Radio/Cassette Walkman
Sony WM-FS191 Radio/Cassette Sports Walkman
Sony WM-EX102 Cassette Walkman

Apparently, a hell of a lot more than what you've got.

And I totally expect a backstabbing response like "oh, you own so many Sony
products, it's so obvious why you were in disagreement with me."

I'd hate to burst your bubble, but I also own many other electronics made by
other brands, mainly Japanese (Pioneer, JVC, Panasonic/Technics, Toshiba,
Yamaha, Onkyo, Mitsubishi, Akai, Hitachi, NEC), that have been as good, if not
superior, to some of my Sony items listed.

With such experience, I can assure anyone that if they want quality
electronics, they should buy Japanese unless they are willing and able to blow
a small fortune for exotic stuff from brands like Sunfire, Krell, Bryston,
Runco, Linn, Proceed, Meridian, Bang and Olufsen, Seleco, Lexicon, and various
other brands, many of which the general public do not know exist. - Reinhart
 
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Tom MacIntyre

Jan 1, 1970
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Specifying very significant details that you either ignored or didn't factor is
not nit-picking.

Reading your post establishes the idea that Sony TV sets are not durable.
Posting a hyperlink to an Epinions article with a very vague description of
what the post was about tends to strengthen the impression you are trying to
create with your wrtiting.

However, when someone with any sense with electronics repair reads the article,
they'll find the particular scenario from that story would cause damage to ANY
TV set.


But what degree was the mishandling taken to? Apparently, according to the
Epinions article, a lot.

The story also describes that the mainboard had to be replaced by the
technician just to get the set to turn on in the first place.

If a drop was enough to destroy the original mainboard, then it may also be
enough to shift the innards of a picture tube. The larger the tube, the more
susceptible it is to this kind of damage. I don't care if it's a Sony, a
Toshiba, a Panasonic, or a Loewe. If a drop damages the mainboard to the
extent that it won't work anymore, then it's likely that the tube could be
trashed as well.

I stand by my arguments and feel that your claims are in error by bad example.
- Reinhart

Sorry to butt in. If my memory is correct, there are specific
admonitions with regards to degaussing Trinitron CRT's. If they are
more sensitive to that which is totally benign to a shadow mask CRT,
doesn't it follow that a lesser physical impact will also cause a
problem, compared to a shadow mask CRT?

Tom
 
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Tom MacIntyre

Jan 1, 1970
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What you typed, verbatim.

"Sony shadowmask tubes are particularly susceptible to damage after being
dropped."

I already addressed this. My memory may be flawed, but I am pretty
sure I read what I read in a Sony repair manual or training manual.

Tom
 
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