Interesting Discover: Too much heat in Skybuck's Dream PC while playing games. Fans spin hard.

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

You can cool your PC quite efficiently without all that fan noise by
immersing it in a bathtub full of water while playing games.

 

[Benjamin Gawert]

* Brandon D Cartwright:

Quit talking rubbish.

He is posting of his adventures with his broken computer in computer
and electronics groups control freak.

Are you really that stupid or do you just want to make yourself look
like an idiot?

he is talking about his efforts to fault find his computer in
perfectly appropriate groups.

You're kidding, right? Or you must be very new to UseNet, otherwise you
would have known that you're talking BS.

FYI: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia is about _gfx_cards_ with Nvidia
GPU only. sci.electronics.design covers everything regarding electronics
developmen. *None* of these groups are even likely to be appropriate for
beginners' stories about stupid little computer problems or about
computer games.

SkyFuck should have posted his beginners' problems only in
alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus and alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
because these are the only relevant groups. Games like DMoMM are covered
in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action and not in *any* of the groups SkyFuck
posted into.

The only person who needs reporting is YOU!

Sure, go ahead. You already made yourself looking like the same idiot as
SkyFuck because of your ignorance of newsgroup topics. Maybe you should
get a clue before posting?

Ever thought of kill filing folks you don't want to read?

Why should I? If I would killfile I would miss to give morons like
SkyFuck an you a slap ;-)

Benjamin

 

[mr deo]

You can cool your PC quite efficiently without all that fan noise by
immersing it in a bathtub full of water while playing games.

WRONG
This is DANGEROUS, DONT DO IT....

the water can get into the keyboard and ruin the membranes that allow you to
type!..

 

[mr deo]

Charter? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA FUCKING HAH you got to be
kidding me? You think a charter is anything but a guideline for posting
and that somehow is enforceable? Do you know how many different charters
there are? I would take an educated guess and say it's greater than 80 or
so thousand. Abuse departments hardly ever respond to tangible complaints
like spamming, forgery etc.. let alone off topic posts you Fool. Figure
out how to use your newsreader kill filter or use a wet kill filter (your
brain) and just ignore what you don't want to read.

I think the standard is 1 charter per group
so if he's posting to 80,000 groups then yes, there's probably 80,000
charters..

But as we look at charters, only 1 charter needs to apply, and that's the
charter that applys to the group his post is in, even if it's in 10 groups
then only 1 charter per group can apply....

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Or maybe not... kinda makes the same sound.

Or maybe with case closed, the fans spin a little harder oh well.

The heat probably higher though with case closed

Also placed another book on top of the case to make it more heavy..
reduces any vibrations

Ok what I did was:

1. Leave the right plate open.

2. Close the left plate to reduce noise.

Now the heat can escape on the right side of the case.

However I once read cold is supposed to go into the front of the case and
out the back.

Now maybe cold can go in from the top... not sure if that's good or bad.

Probably good though. At least heat can go out the top right... that can't
be bad correct ? hehehe.

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

WRONG
This is DANGEROUS, DONT DO IT....

the water can get into the keyboard and ruin the membranes that allow you to
type!..

What do you think the dry ice is for?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Hello,

I played some Civ 3 Conquest which is CPU intensive... and I noticed the
motherboard temperature actually rises.

I must also come to the conclusion that AMD's Cool & quiet is actually Hot &
Quiet !

I have decided to turn off:

1. Cool N Quiet in bios.
2. Asus Q-Fan control
3. AMD's Power Monitor.

To keep the CPU and motherboard COOL !

The noise level has slighty increased, but probably not as bad as my old
computer... so it will have to do.

It makes a hell of difference to the temperature !

The CPU is already 7 degrees cooler !

The motherboard is 1 to 2 degree cooler !

According to Asus Probe II.

I will continue monitoring it a bit... but I am think having a little cooler
cpu and motherboard seems smart ?!

Hopefully the new motherboard will now last longer than 1 year and 3 months.

Also the constant fluctuations of voltage within the cpu and logically
outside because of savings might also play a role in damage.

Actually I might even go into the bios and set the cpu voltage at 1.1 volts
so that it runs at 1000 mhz per core...

But that probably not necessary anymore... because the fans are already
spinning at maximum.

So no need to comprise system speed...

Though running the cpu at lower speed would probaby reduce the heat some
more... and the fans still spinning at maximum so overall heat should go
further down

So that's still an option for the future.

Most games and apps probably don't need more cpu power than 2.0 ghz
anyway... but ok..

I am not sure which bios setting I would have to change... maybe vcore.. or
maybe frequency...

So I am still doubting if I should lower cpu speed.

I am scared shitless my motherboard will die again

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Meat Plow]

I think the standard is 1 charter per group
so if he's posting to 80,000 groups then yes, there's probably 80,000
charters..

But as we look at charters, only 1 charter needs to apply, and that's the
charter that applys to the group his post is in, even if it's in 10 groups
then only 1 charter per group can apply....

Your post is against the charter of some of the groups being cross
posted to. Shall I report you to NTL? No of course not, that would be
silly.

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Hmm wanted to upload some new pictures to my webdrive...

But the 50 MB is probably already FULL LOL.

AHH

To lazy to do something about it.

Maybe later.

Sorry PEEEEPS no new pictures for now.

Such a bummer ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Oh well.

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Stefano]

Hopefully the new motherboard will now last longer than 1 year and 3 months.

All your message is very cool (heh) but this sentence scared me...

1

year

3

months

???

What do you do with the motherboard, cooking eggs??

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Hmm that was interesting.

I was playing Battlefield 2 and the motherboard temperature was 49 degrees.

I decided to open up the case and remove the plate.

A few seconds later the motherboard temperature was 51 degrees !

So actually removing the plate was a bad idea !

The fan probably starts sucking air from around it...

Apperently the case has to function as a tube !

To suck air over the components !

So case door closed is actually better !

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Marra]

I always leave both side plates off.

 

[Skybuck Flying]

I always leave both side plates off.

I tried it, bad idea.

The case is supposed to be a tunnel.

Otherwise the fans just suck air from outside and blow it outside and
nothing goes past the components

The fans are supposed to suck the air from inside and blow it outside

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[JackShephard]

WRONG
This is DANGEROUS, DONT DO IT....

the water can get into the keyboard and ruin the membranes that allow you to
type!..

You spelled Membrain wrong! :-]

 

[Craig Sutton]

Hmm that was interesting.

I was playing Battlefield 2 and the motherboard temperature was 49
degrees.

I decided to open up the case and remove the plate.

A few seconds later the motherboard temperature was 51 degrees !

So actually removing the plate was a bad idea !

The fan probably starts sucking air from around it...

Apperently the case has to function as a tube !

To suck air over the components !

So case door closed is actually better !

Nope, the cause of all YOUR problems is YOU.

And get rid of the pathetic Battlefield 2 game.

Of course you should also know that having 2 video cards heats up the area
around the m.b heat sensor.

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Nope, the cause of all YOUR problems is YOU.

And get rid of the pathetic Battlefield 2 game.

Of course you should also know that having 2 video cards heats up the area
around the m.b heat sensor.

Where is the heat sensor ?

Do you have any diagrams to prove your theory ?

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Skybuck Flying]

My apologies to AMD.

It's not AMD's Cool & Quiet feature which slows down the fan.

It's Asus's Q-Fan Control which slows down the fan !

SORRY.

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[SumGuy]

Why should I?

Because you keep complaining you don't want to read it. Kind of common
sense, and by posting it all back to multiple groups you just increase the
amount of crap on the servers.

I don't know what group this was posted in, so I can't edit out the rest.

From the tenor of your post you just love to find things to complain about,
so expecting you to take a few basic actions to alleviate your own annoyance
is an unrealistic expectation.

I don't need to use a kill file, I can just *not* select messages I know
will be digital diarrhea - I would suggest you do the same, but I covered
that last paragraph...

 

[Hackworth]

**** off.

LOL. I haven't check this group in about a year or so (too busy to monkey
with hardware during that time, unfortunately). So here I am today, and I
see that Starbuck is still posting. Some things just never change. <sigh>

 

[Ed]

My apologies to AMD.

It's not AMD's Cool & Quiet feature which slows down the fan.

It's Asus's Q-Fan Control which slows down the fan !

SORRY.

Bye,
Skybuck.

Right, AMD CnQ doesn't control fan speed directly, the retail fan has a
thermal sensor (Green thermistor by fan hub) and controls the fan speed
depending on the temp passing through the fan into the heatsink.

Air temp at sensor = Fan Speed.
< 33C = 3000 RPM

41C = 6000 RPM

I have full tower cases, all the fans in them are automatically
controlled thermal types, I tried those fan controllers years ago and
they are just a big pain in the ass, with the thermal fans my temps
barley ever change no matter what the room temp is or how hard my PCs
are working and I don't have to worry about over heating or adjust
anything.

The biggest advantage I see for AMD CnQ is the lower power draw, the
CPUs do put out a little less heat but they use less power so the PSU
runs cooler and quite, when you have more then one CPU per case and more
then one box in a room it really adds up and makes a hugh difference!
Lower AC bills too.
Ed