Moose panels

[tourman]

Periodically I buy up old panels in bulk from a lot of the local
installers who work for a variety of large companies here in town. When
they are doing takeovers, the old panels are thrown out, and I buy them
for pennies on the dollar, and put a lot of the older DSC and Paradox
panels back on the shelf for service. Recently, I got three Moose
panels and keypads that were brand new in the box as part of a deal,
and I'm wondering if these are worth keeping, or junking. Two are the
Moose Z900 with can and keypad, and one is the Sentrol ZX400 12 zone
panel with can but no keypad. I hate to throw out something that
someone might be able to put to good use.

Any of the regulars had any experience with these ? As far as I know,
nobody locally deals with these panels at all. Anybody want them for
the price of shipping (remember, I'm in Canada....)

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
www.homemetal.com

 

[Mark Leuck]

I gave up on Moose after the MPI 50.

I just want certain people to know I have struggled to refrain from posting
about this line of alarm panels and certain maritime accessories

Please continue your message browsing...

 

[Robert L Bass]

I gave up on Moose after the MPI 50.

That was unfortunate, Roland. The Z1100 series were excellent panels while MPI was still building them. I started using Moose
Products with the MPI-25.

BTW, I beta tested the short-lived MPI-26 for Wade. I still remember the house where I installed it. That system was still working
in 2000, the last time I spoke to the owner. We monitored it for decades and the only service it ever needed was an occasional
replacement of the backup battery. It was a very simple installation -- all door and window contacts. They had dogs so we didn't
use motion and I wasn't using glass break detectors at the time.

Most of the Z1100 series panels we installed many years ago were still in service five years ago when I sold the alarm company.
Judging from comments since then from the buyers, they're still working today. I wish my cars would last half as long as those old
Moose systems. :^)

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
941-866-1100
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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[Bob Worthy]

BTW, I beta tested the short-lived MPI-26 for Wade.

[Cough!]

I still remember the house where I installed it. That system was still
working

in 2000, the last time I spoke to the owner. We monitored it for decades
[Cough!!]

It was a very simple installation -- all door and window contacts. They had dogs so we didn't
use motion and I wasn't using glass break detectors at the time.

Decades ago? [Cough!!!]

Most of the Z1100 series panels we installed many years ago were still in

service five years ago when I sold the alarm company.

Time lines anyone?

Judging from comments since then from the buyers, they're still working

today.

And you keep in touch with all the clients of your modest alarm company, you
sold five years ago, to see if their system still work? [Cough!!!]

I wish my cars would last half as long as those old

Moose systems.

Have them serviced by professionals and they probably would.

 

[tourman]

Ok, I guess from this response Mark, you don't think much of these
panels. I did have someone contact me privately; however, he is in the
USA and shipping costs with the cans is atrocious. Perhaps he doesn't
need the cans which could keep the price of shipping down...

Otherwise, I guess they're garbage....

RHC

 

[Crash Gordon]

They weren't that bad.
I think Mark had a traumatic experience with Moose - one of his family
members was trampled by a drunk Moose..something like that.


| Ok, I guess from this response Mark, you don't think much of these
| panels. I did have someone contact me privately; however, he is in the
| USA and shipping costs with the cans is atrocious. Perhaps he doesn't
| need the cans which could keep the price of shipping down...
|
| Otherwise, I guess they're garbage....
|
| RHC
|
| Mark Leuck wrote:
| > | > > I gave up on Moose after the MPI 50.
| >
| > I just want certain people to know I have struggled to refrain from
posting
| > about this line of alarm panels and certain maritime accessories
| >
| > Please continue your message browsing...
|

 

[Frank Olson]

That was unfortunate, Roland. The Z1100 series were excellent panels while MPI was still building them. I started using Moose
Products with the MPI-25.

BTW, I beta tested the short-lived MPI-26 for Wade.

That's pretty damn irresponsible. How many other poor victims errrm...
customers did you supply with what amounts to free equipment for which
you charged your "modest" markup? Remember the video switcher you
"donated" to the Fireman's Museum in Pa? It was a free "demo" too, yet
you wound up with a $150.00 tax receipt for what amounts to something
that wasn't even "yours" to get...

It was a very simple installation -- all door and window contacts. They had dogs so we didn't
use motion and I wasn't using glass break detectors at the time.

So the customer wound up with a substandard system based on a panel that
was being "beta tested"... Wow...

 

[alarman]

I just want certain people to know I have struggled to refrain from
posting
about this line of alarm panels and certain maritime accessories

Please continue your message browsing...

Don't make me come over there.
js

 

[Robert L Bass]

They weren't that bad. I think Mark had

a traumatic experience with Moose - one
of his family members was trampled by
a drunk Moose..something like that.

Naah. It was simpler than that. A moose raced him when he was riding his recumbent bicycle and just as he was about to take the
lead the moose made a mess in the road. Leuck went down face first into the moose dung. There's a picture of him which proves it
on Stevens' website.

 

[Robert L Bass]

How much does it cost to buy enough

booze to get a moose drunk? I have
never had the cash necessary to party
with them myself.

That depends. Are we talking vodka or beer?

 

[Stanley Barthfarkle]

If you find a sale on Moosehead beer, it's really not that expensive to
party with mooses.. (meese? moose?)...

 

[Crash Gordon]

Dunno but they are freekin big...I had one chase me around up at Jellystone
once. Scart me sober.


| >one of his family members was trampled by a drunk Moose
|
| How much does it cost to buy enough booze to get a moose drunk? I have
never
| had the cash necessary to party with them myself.
|
| | > They weren't that bad.
| > I think Mark had a traumatic experience with Moose - one of his family
| > members was trampled by a drunk Moose..something like that.
| >
| >
| > | > | Ok, I guess from this response Mark, you don't think much of these
| > | panels. I did have someone contact me privately; however, he is in the
| > | USA and shipping costs with the cans is atrocious. Perhaps he doesn't
| > | need the cans which could keep the price of shipping down...
| > |
| > | Otherwise, I guess they're garbage....
| > |
| > | RHC
| > |
| > | Mark Leuck wrote:
| > | > | > | > > I gave up on Moose after the MPI 50.
| > | >
| > | > I just want certain people to know I have struggled to refrain from
| > posting
| > | > about this line of alarm panels and certain maritime accessories
| > | >
| > | > Please continue your message browsing...
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Mark Leuck]

They weren't that bad.
I think Mark had a traumatic experience with Moose - one of his family
members was trampled by a drunk Moose..something like that.

My father was killed in an accident caused by a truck carrying a number of
Moose Z1100, FBI XL4800, Ademco 4120EC and DSC WLS900 panels.

It was terrible, boards all over...I may never get over it

 

[Don]

was riding a snow mobile thru Yellowstone and the guy that rented it warned
us to be extra careful. seems a guy came around a corner and hit one a few
weeks earlier and it killed him.

 

[Robert L Bass]

If you find a sale on Moosehead beer,

it's really not that expensive to party
with mooses.. (meese? moose?)...

It's moose. According to the Moosehead Beer website, 3% of all road accidents in Canada involve a moose. You'd think that by now
the authorities would have shot it.

 

[alarman]

Dunno but they are freekin big...I had one chase me around up at
Jellystone
once. Scart me sober.

Probably after your pick-a-nick basket, Yogi.
js

 

[Crash Gordon]

I knew it was something like that. How horrible for you. Our belated
condolences.


|
| | > They weren't that bad.
| > I think Mark had a traumatic experience with Moose - one of his family
| > members was trampled by a drunk Moose..something like that.
|
| My father was killed in an accident caused by a truck carrying a number of
| Moose Z1100, FBI XL4800, Ademco 4120EC and DSC WLS900 panels.
|
| It was terrible, boards all over...I may never get over it
|
|

 

[Robert L Bass]

BTW, I beta tested the short-lived MPI-26 for Wade.

[Cough!]

Try Robitussin.

I still remember the house where I installed it. That system was still
working

in 2000, the last time I spoke to the owner. We monitored it for decades
[Cough!!]

It was a very simple installation -- all door and window contacts. They had dogs so we didn't
use motion and I wasn't using glass break detectors at the time.

Decades ago? [Cough!!!]

Obviously you weren't around back then. Glass break detectors of that era consisted mostly of shock sensors. The most popular was
a little device called the "Wiz". It was awful. I tried a few of them and wound up pulling them out after a while.

I also used a few Litton shock processors and sensors some years later. They were ok for protecting masonry walls but for glass
breakage they tended to false unless they were set so low that the protection was questionable.

Finally acoustic glassbreaks came out. The first ones were as bad as, if not worse than shock sensors. Try to find someone with
one of the old Bluegrass detectors. You'll learn a few things.

Time lines anyone?

The Z1100 came out a long time after the MPI-25 and its successors. If you had more experience you wouldn't need to ask.

And you keep in touch with all the clients...

"Buyers", you moron. I occasionally speak to the people who bought my business. These were friends in the trade whom I knew and
worked with for many years before I decided to sell.

of your modest alarm company, you
sold five years ago, to see if their
system still work? [Cough!!!]

You really ought to take something for that cough.

Have them serviced by professionals
and they probably would.

Heh. I take my cars to the dealers I bought them from. I do the same thing with my bikes. I like DIY electronics but anything
with an engine I'm not interested in servicing.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-866-1100
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>

 

[Mark Leuck]

It wouldn't have been that bad had it happened with some Vista-10SE's or DSC
5010's but jeez some 4120EC's????? WHY????

 

[Crash Gordon]

Oh, the humanity! Stop man, you already got me in tears.
How many years do the docs expect you to be in analysis before you recover?
Did you sue Moose?



| It wouldn't have been that bad had it happened with some Vista-10SE's or
DSC
| 5010's but jeez some 4120EC's????? WHY????
|
|
| | > I knew it was something like that. How horrible for you. Our belated
| > condolences.
| >
| >
| > | > |
| > | | > | > They weren't that bad.
| > | > I think Mark had a traumatic experience with Moose - one of his
family
| > | > members was trampled by a drunk Moose..something like that.
| > |
| > | My father was killed in an accident caused by a truck carrying a
number
| of
| > | Moose Z1100, FBI XL4800, Ademco 4120EC and DSC WLS900 panels.
| > |
| > | It was terrible, boards all over...I may never get over it
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|