OT?: Textured cases/enclosures

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Don Y

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi,

We've been evaluating some sample enclosures for a handheld
device (all roughly the same size/shape just different types
of materials). The device has a decent amount of "heft" to
it -- light enough to be held comfortably in one hand (but
not featherweight like, e.g., a phone). And, there's a
significant number of dollars tied up in each one so it's
not the sort of thing you want to be dropping often! :>

We opted for a textured finish on the plastic parts as
this was "less slippery" and hid many of the superficial
scratches that the device encounters during typical use.

But, the texture makes it easy for oils from handling
to accumulate "in the cracks". So, the devices start to
look pretty shabby *really* quickly!

The texture works against us when it comes to trying to
clean up a unit that has accumulated crud -- you can't
just "wipe it clean" like you would for a "smoother"
finish. We've also learned that the temptation to use
solvents to expedite the cleaning quickly mars the
finish (depending on the plastic and choice of solvent,
this either *just* takes the "sheen" off the plastic *or*
actually can start to "dissolve" it!).

We're currently having a sample case milled from a block of
aluminum to see how that fares (weight, appearance, etc.).
But, this is probably not the way to go in the long run
(even if it was cast). Or, we'd need a different approach
to the "texture" issue (perhaps significantly modifying the
case's shape to make it easier to hold "reliably")...

Does anyone have firsthand experience with the use of texture
for these goals? And/or other materials that would be
durable, "holdable" and cleanable?

Is there a group/forum better suited to these sorts of
questions?

Thx!
 
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Bob Engelhardt

Jan 1, 1970
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Don said:
...
The texture works against us when it comes to trying to
clean up a unit that has accumulated crud -- you can't
just "wipe it clean" like you would for a "smoother"
finish. ...

You can't just put it in the dishwasher? <G>
 
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Ralph Barone

Jan 1, 1970
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Don Y said:
Hi,

We've been evaluating some sample enclosures for a handheld
device (all roughly the same size/shape just different types
of materials). The device has a decent amount of "heft" to
it -- light enough to be held comfortably in one hand (but
not featherweight like, e.g., a phone). And, there's a
significant number of dollars tied up in each one so it's
not the sort of thing you want to be dropping often! :>

We opted for a textured finish on the plastic parts as
this was "less slippery" and hid many of the superficial
scratches that the device encounters during typical use.

But, the texture makes it easy for oils from handling
to accumulate "in the cracks". So, the devices start to
look pretty shabby *really* quickly!

The texture works against us when it comes to trying to
clean up a unit that has accumulated crud -- you can't
just "wipe it clean" like you would for a "smoother"
finish. We've also learned that the temptation to use
solvents to expedite the cleaning quickly mars the
finish (depending on the plastic and choice of solvent,
this either *just* takes the "sheen" off the plastic *or*
actually can start to "dissolve" it!).

We're currently having a sample case milled from a block of
aluminum to see how that fares (weight, appearance, etc.).
But, this is probably not the way to go in the long run
(even if it was cast). Or, we'd need a different approach
to the "texture" issue (perhaps significantly modifying the
case's shape to make it easier to hold "reliably")...

Does anyone have firsthand experience with the use of texture
for these goals? And/or other materials that would be
durable, "holdable" and cleanable?

Is there a group/forum better suited to these sorts of
questions?

Thx!

Perhaps a smooth case with a factory supplied rubber "case protector" like
those you can buy for iPhones. If it gets scunged up, peel it off, wash it
in the sink, dry it and pop it back on.
 
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Don Y

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi Ralph,

Perhaps a smooth case with a factory supplied rubber "case protector" like
those you can buy for iPhones. If it gets scunged up, peel it off, wash it
in the sink, dry it and pop it back on.

Wow! That's an *excellent* idea -- in *so* many ways!
- eases the strain on the hand from holding what would otherwise
be a hard, inflexible item
- gives a bit of added protection to the device (think: dropped!)
- can be "smoother" to make cleaning easier
- can be *removed* for cleaning (Bob's "dishwasher" suggestion! :> )
- gives us more flexibility in choice of case materials (since the
actual case is now never really exposed)
- inexpensive to replace (though becomes another "supply" that has
to be sourced) if it ever gets tattered, gouged, chewed up, etc.

Of course, there will still be solvent issues. But, hopefully
"soapy water" will be sufficient to get it clean without resorting
to organic solvents.

And, it will constrain the actual final shape of the case so that
the "skin" *can* be peeled off without being damaged, etc.

Excellent! Thanks!
 
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Ralph Barone

Jan 1, 1970
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Don Y said:
Hi Ralph,




Wow! That's an *excellent* idea -- in *so* many ways!
- eases the strain on the hand from holding what would otherwise
be a hard, inflexible item
- gives a bit of added protection to the device (think: dropped!)
- can be "smoother" to make cleaning easier
- can be *removed* for cleaning (Bob's "dishwasher" suggestion! :> )
- gives us more flexibility in choice of case materials (since the
actual case is now never really exposed)
- inexpensive to replace (though becomes another "supply" that has
to be sourced) if it ever gets tattered, gouged, chewed up, etc.

Of course, there will still be solvent issues. But, hopefully
"soapy water" will be sufficient to get it clean without resorting
to organic solvents.

And, it will constrain the actual final shape of the case so that
the "skin" *can* be peeled off without being damaged, etc.

Excellent! Thanks!

I was posting from my iPod (complete with silicone rubber "skin"), so I
can't claim much originality in the suggestion, but I'm glad you liked it.
 
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Don Y

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi Ralph,

I was posting from my iPod (complete with silicone rubber "skin"), so I
can't claim much originality in the suggestion, but I'm glad you liked it.

<grin> When I read your suggestion, I thought more along
the lines of the heavy "rubber" (?) sleeves that are present
on (around) some of the industrial devices I've purchased.
Not as flexible as what you are suggesting but the same
idea: if the "skin" of the device is the problem, find a
way of changing/replacing/cleaning it *easily*!

Now I will just have to crusade to make it a "low cost"
replacement part so folks are encouraged to replace it
when it gets "ratty looking" -- instead of clinging to an
old, beat-up "skin" out of concern to save some money
(since that beat-up skin can reflect poorly on the product
itself!)
 
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Pimpom

Jan 1, 1970
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Don said:
Hi Ralph,



<grin> When I read your suggestion, I thought more along
the lines of the heavy "rubber" (?) sleeves that are present
on (around) some of the industrial devices I've purchased.
Not as flexible as what you are suggesting but the same
idea: if the "skin" of the device is the problem, find a
way of changing/replacing/cleaning it *easily*!

Now I will just have to crusade to make it a "low cost"
replacement part so folks are encouraged to replace it
when it gets "ratty looking" -- instead of clinging to an
old, beat-up "skin" out of concern to save some money
(since that beat-up skin can reflect poorly on the product
itself!)

Slightly waisted (convex) sides?
 
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Don Y

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi Michael,

Offer the replacments in multiple colors so they can 'customize' the
units. That way cutomers who have more than one can tell them apart and
you can sell even more of the skins. :)

<frown> This gets back to my post regarding (paraphrasing)
"are we in the *device* business or the *skins* business?".

I'd rather push for making *the* skin (one color/style)
available "at cost" and treat the activity of "selling
skins" as one that is just a "cost of doing business".
Otherwise, it can turn *into* a business -- one that
can end up hurting the sale/perception of the device
itself. (i.e., pressure to raise the price/profit
margin on the skins to pay the salaries of the *extra*
folks now taking "skin orders", etc.).

If some 3rd party wants to parasitically benefit from
our *not* offering a selection of skins, then so be it.
At least that is an *option* that customers can avail
themselves of vs. us "extorting" extra dollars from them
for a necessary supply/accessory ("Yeah, they make
the skins really CRAPPY so you have to keep buying new
skins every year! $20 for a silly piece of rubber...
Sheesh!")
 
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Don Y

Jan 1, 1970
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Slightly waisted (convex) sides?

<shrug> Dunno. I'll leave this to the IE/ME types to
sort out. I'm sure there are "equations" that determine
just what you can and can't do with a given size/shape
sleeve made from a particular material trying to slide/stretch
over *another* size/shape object made of a *different* material,
etc.

(Amusing how "foreign" disciplines can appear to border on
black magick! :> )
 
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