Problem With Coaxial Cable For FM Antenna

[Tiziano]

I just bought a JVC receiver (model RX-5060B) and I have run into a
problem with the coaxial cable (RG-59) that I have for connecting the FM
antenna to the FM antenna port on the receiver. (I was using this cable
with the old receiver.)

The cable that I have is of type RG-59. The connector (type F) is too
small to slide on the antenna port located in the rear side of the
receiver. I understand that nowadays coaxial cable is of type RG-6 and
that might explain why I cannot plug my coaxial cable into the port of
the receiver as I was told that the RG-6 connector is bigger than the RG-59.

I don't think that buying an RG-6 coaxial cable will solve my problem
because then the connector on one end of the cable would not screw into
the plug on the wall. (The house I live in is rather old and has an
old-style wall plug for coaxial cable.)

Is there some sort of RG-59 to RG-6 adapter that I can purchase? I am
completely a novice with this kind of things and I sure need some help.

Thanks.

 

[CJT]

I just bought a JVC receiver (model RX-5060B) and I have run into a
problem with the coaxial cable (RG-59) that I have for connecting the FM
antenna to the FM antenna port on the receiver. (I was using this cable
with the old receiver.)

The cable that I have is of type RG-59. The connector (type F) is too
small to slide on the antenna port located in the rear side of the
receiver. I understand that nowadays coaxial cable is of type RG-6 and
that might explain why I cannot plug my coaxial cable into the port of
the receiver as I was told that the RG-6 connector is bigger than the
RG-59.

I don't think that buying an RG-6 coaxial cable will solve my problem
because then the connector on one end of the cable would not screw into
the plug on the wall. (The house I live in is rather old and has an
old-style wall plug for coaxial cable.)

Is there some sort of RG-59 to RG-6 adapter that I can purchase? I am
completely a novice with this kind of things and I sure need some help.

Thanks.

That's not the problem. An F connector is an F connector -- they
don't vary according to the size of the cable to which they're
attached. Perhaps the receiver doesn't have an F connector for
input. The manual should say.

 

[CJT]

That's not the problem. An F connector is an F connector -- they
don't vary according to the size of the cable to which they're
attached. Perhaps the receiver doesn't have an F connector for
input. The manual should say.

I can't see it well enough on the picture I was able to find to say what
sort of connector that is, but it doesn't look like an F connector. It
looks more like a BNC.

 

[Tiziano]

Thanks for your reply.
The instructions that came with the receiver only say to "connect a 75
ohm coaxial cable (with the standard type connector)."

I guess an F connector is no longer standard for coaxial cables...

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

The instructions that came with the receiver only say to "connect a 75
ohm coaxial cable (with the standard type connector)."

I guess an F connector is no longer standard for coaxial cables...

It never has been the standard for FM radios - only satellite stuff. it
has 'graduated' to others, though.

FM radio 'standard' if there ever was one was Belling Lee for 75 ohm
unbalanced and either screws or those strange balanced plugs for 300 ohm
twin ribbon balanced feeder.

In the UK F-type started appearing on radio tuners for DAB Band III and
some use it for Band I FM too now.

 

[Tim Phipps]

Thanks for your reply.
The instructions that came with the receiver only say to "connect a 75
ohm coaxial cable (with the standard type connector)."

I guess an F connector is no longer standard for coaxial cables...

I looked at the PDF manual from the JVC website. The connector looks
like the standard antenna connector we use in the UK for terrestrial TV
and FM. I am not sure what its proper name is. However, I believe this
adapter is what you need to connect your cable to the receiver.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330198758413

 

[Geoffrey S. Mendelson]

I looked at the PDF manual from the JVC website. The connector looks
like the standard antenna connector we use in the UK for terrestrial TV
and FM. I am not sure what its proper name is. However, I believe this
adapter is what you need to connect your cable to the receiver.

I don't know the proper name either, but it is a DIN standard connector.

The people who operated "220" shops in New York in the 1980's called it a
"PAL" connector because it was used by PAL TV sets and the name has
stuck. When people refer to them as PAL connectors, I refer to "F"
connectors as "NTSC" connectors when answering them.

Universal Radio sells them and at one time Radio Shack sold adaptors
to F connectors.

I don't know where the original poster is, but radios with those
connectors are not intended to be sold in the U.S. They may have a
different voltage power supply, different tuning steps and a different
pre-emphasis to fit European standards.

If the radio was destined for Europe, it will have 9kHz tuning steps instead
of 10 on AM (which may be adjustable), and 100kHz tuning steps on FM instead
of 200kHz on odd multiples, which should not be a problem.

It will also have the European pre-emphasis standard which may make U.S.
FM broadcasts seem slightly "dull". (lacking high frequency response).

If you have a friend/relative coming to Israel in the near future, you
can get the plugs (note that there are male and female) and adaptors to
"F" connectors in any Home Center. I expect you can get them in similar
stores throught the U.K. and Europe too.

Geoff.

 

[Rich Webb]

Thanks for your reply.
The instructions that came with the receiver only say to "connect a 75
ohm coaxial cable (with the standard type connector)."

I guess an F connector is no longer standard for coaxial cables...

With no hint where in the world you're located, this may or may not be
helpful but, as Dave Plowman noted, the connector may be a Belling-Lee
style. In the US, Radio Shack carries adapters for F to Belling-Lee
under parts 278-261 and 278-265, depending on the gender required.

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Tim Phipps wrote:

I don't know the proper name either, but it is a DIN standard connector.

It pre-dates DIN standards for this sort of thing.

The people who operated "220" shops in New York in the 1980's called it a
"PAL" connector because it was used by PAL TV sets and the name has
stuck. When people refer to them as PAL connectors, I refer to "F"
connectors as "NTSC" connectors when answering them.

It long pre-dates PAL too.

Universal Radio sells them and at one time Radio Shack sold adaptors
to F connectors.

It's correct name is a Belling Lee after the maker (rather like an RCA
plug is so named in the US) and here's how they are fitted:-

http://www.megalithia.com/elect/bellinglee/index.html

I don't know where the original poster is, but radios with those
connectors are not intended to be sold in the U.S. They may have a
different voltage power supply, different tuning steps and a different
pre-emphasis to fit European standards.

If the radio was destined for Europe, it will have 9kHz tuning steps
instead of 10 on AM (which may be adjustable), and 100kHz tuning steps
on FM instead of 200kHz on odd multiples, which should not be a problem.

It will also have the European pre-emphasis standard which may make U.S.
FM broadcasts seem slightly "dull". (lacking high frequency response).

Some FM tuners sold in the UK are switchable to the US standards.

If you have a friend/relative coming to Israel in the near future, you
can get the plugs (note that there are male and female) and adaptors to
"F" connectors in any Home Center. I expect you can get them in similar
stores throught the U.K. and Europe too.

The most common Belling Lee connector is a line plug. There is a female
version used as an output from VHS recorders etc for daisy chaining the
aerial.

 

[Tiziano]

I live in the USA.
Today I went to Fry's Electronics and they sold me what they call a
Quick Push-On "F" Connector. On the back of the package it states:

To convert standard screw-on "F" connectors
into quick push-on F connectors.

It seems to work just fine. I had never heard of Quick Push-On "F"
Connectors before...
Thanks everybody for your suggestions.

 

[Deke]

I just bought a JVC receiver (model RX-5060B) and I have run into a
problem with the coaxial cable (RG-59) that I have for connecting the FM
antenna to the FM antenna port on the receiver. (I was using this cable
with the old receiver.)

The cable that I have is of type RG-59. The connector (type F) is too
small to slide on the antenna port located in the rear side of the
receiver. I understand that nowadays coaxial cable is of type RG-6 and
that might explain why I cannot plug my coaxial cable into the port of
the receiver as I was told that the RG-6 connector is bigger than the RG-59.

I don't think that buying an RG-6 coaxial cable will solve my problem
because then the connector on one end of the cable would not screw into
the plug on the wall. (The house I live in is rather old and has an
old-style wall plug for coaxial cable.)

Is there some sort of RG-59 to RG-6 adapter that I can purchase? I am
completely a novice with this kind of things and I sure need some help.

Thanks.

Thats a PAL connector, F type will never fit. Go to Radio shack for an
adapter. And a pox on JVC for making us do so. If its sold in the USA, it
should have common USA style connections! Dammit!
I just bought the JVC RX-D302B. Same connector.

HTH!
Deke

 

[Michael Kennedy]

I live in the USA.
Today I went to Fry's Electronics and they sold me what they call a Quick
Push-On "F" Connector. On the back of the package it states:

To convert standard screw-on "F" connectors
into quick push-on F connectors.

It seems to work just fine. I had never heard of Quick Push-On "F"
Connectors before...
Thanks everybody for your suggestions.

Well the push on F-Connector is the same as a standard F-Connector with the
exception that it doesn't have threads. It is just designed to make it
easier to connect and disconnect F-Connectors. They are interchangeable with
standard F-Connectors, it is not a different type of connector. I'm guessing
that the threads got buggered up and the standard connector couldn't thread
on, where as the slide on one could.

Mike

 

[Shawn D'Alimonte]

Thats a PAL connector, F type will never fit. Go to Radio shack for an
adapter. And a pox on JVC for making us do so. If its sold in the USA, it
should have common USA style connections! Dammit!
I just bought the JVC RX-D302B. Same connector.

I have found the following with those connectors in Canada:
- JVC CD Minisystem (FS-H35)
- RCA DVD Home Theater Receiver (RTDVD1)
- Cheapo Curits 5" B/W TV Set (This at least came with an adapter to
300ohm screw terminals).

All of this is North American (Radios are 10kHZ AM spacing, odd FM
frequencies, TV is 60Hz with VHFL, VHFH and UHF bands with North
American channel numbers).

Push on F connectors (available at the Dollar Store) seem to mate well.

 

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