Standard Domestic Voltage?

This has become an issue of debate here in teh office so I thought I'd
ask the public. What is the standard voltage for domestic supply in
North America? I've heard anything from 110V to 125V, and I've measured
it at anywhere from 115 to 122 so what is the "official" standard?

Cheers,

Chris
 
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Dan Hollands

Jan 1, 1970
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This has become an issue of debate here in teh office so I thought I'd
ask the public. What is the standard voltage for domestic supply in
North America? I've heard anything from 110V to 125V, and I've measured
it at anywhere from 115 to 122 so what is the "official" standard?

Cheers,

Chris

I don't know what the legal requirement is but when designing products all
companies I have worked for design for 120+/- 15%
or 102 to 134Vac. Generally when measured the voltage is in the 120s.
 
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RST Engineering \(jw\)

Jan 1, 1970
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I've always designed to 117 +/- 10%, but that's just something passed on to
me by my elders early in my career.

Jim
 
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Tim Wescott

Jan 1, 1970
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This has become an issue of debate here in teh office so I thought I'd
ask the public. What is the standard voltage for domestic supply in
North America? I've heard anything from 110V to 125V, and I've measured
it at anywhere from 115 to 122 so what is the "official" standard?

Cheers,

Chris
"Anything from 110V to 125V" is probably close. Expect variability.
Japan uses a nominal 100V at 60Hz, so if you design for 90V to the North
American maximum you could theoretically sell into Japan.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't know what the legal requirement is but when designing products all
companies I have worked for design for 120+/- 15%
or 102 to 134Vac. Generally when measured the voltage is in the 120s.

I've always used 115 ± 17, or 98-132

which is about the same as 115 ± 15%

...Jim Thompson
 
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John Popelish

Jan 1, 1970
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This has become an issue of debate here in teh office so I thought I'd
ask the public. What is the standard voltage for domestic supply in
North America? I've heard anything from 110V to 125V, and I've measured
it at anywhere from 115 to 122 so what is the "official" standard?

Cheers,

Chris
Take a look at:
http://kropla.com/electric2.htm
 
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Tim Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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This has become an issue of debate here in teh office so I thought I'd
ask the public. What is the standard voltage for domestic supply in
North America? I've heard anything from 110V to 125V, and I've measured
it at anywhere from 115 to 122 so what is the "official" standard?

I usually measure 125V here, but I'm not real far from the power station
either.

Tim
 
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GregS

Jan 1, 1970
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I've always used 115 ± 17, or 98-132

which is about the same as 115 ± 15%

...Jim Thompson


Right now I am measuring 127.8 VACRMS in the shop. Its been that much
for a while. At home I'm getting more like 125VACRMS.

greg
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Right now I am measuring 127.8 VACRMS in the shop. Its been that much
for a while. At home I'm getting more like 125VACRMS.

greg

How long do your light bulbs last ?:)

I just measured 119.5VAC, about 40' from a two-house step-down
transformer (which is the usual method in this area for underground
electrical distribution).

...Jim Thompson
 
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Fritz Schlunder

Jan 1, 1970
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This has become an issue of debate here in teh office so I thought I'd
ask the public. What is the standard voltage for domestic supply in
North America? I've heard anything from 110V to 125V, and I've measured
it at anywhere from 115 to 122 so what is the "official" standard?

Cheers,

Chris


In the United States ANSI C84.1 says our official household voltage should
be 120V +/- 5% under normal circumstances, with somewhat worse tolerance for
short duration in the case of unusual circumstances. Not all utilities will
necessarily always fully comply with the standard in all locations however,
so it would probably be wise to design products for a somewhat larger
tolerance band.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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In the United States ANSI C84.1 says our official household voltage should
be 120V +/- 5% under normal circumstances, with somewhat worse tolerance for
short duration in the case of unusual circumstances. Not all utilities will
necessarily always fully comply with the standard in all locations however,
so it would probably be wise to design products for a somewhat larger
tolerance band.

Back in the late '70's, when I was designing switchers for GenRad's
portable testers, I could accept any input from 90VAC-288VAC and
automatically adjust for it ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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This has become an issue of debate here in teh office so I thought I'd ask
the public. What is the standard voltage for domestic supply in North
America? I've heard anything from 110V to 125V, and I've measured it at
anywhere from 115 to 122 so what is the "official" standard?

Cheers,

Chris

117.5.

Hope This Helps!
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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How long do your light bulbs last ?:)

I just measured 119.5VAC, about 40' from a two-house step-down transformer
(which is the usual method in this area for underground electrical
distribution).

Heh. 112.4 +- .1 , Whittier, CA, in an industrial district where
"lighting" (and wall outlets) come off one of the 3 phases in a factory.

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Paul E. Schoen

Jan 1, 1970
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Right now I am measuring 127.8 VACRMS in the shop. Its been that much
How long do your light bulbs last ?:)

I just measured 119.5VAC, about 40' from a two-house step-down
transformer (which is the usual method in this area for underground
electrical distribution).

...Jim Thompson

There are all sorts of voltage adjusters, boosters, transformer taps, etc
downstream from the nearest substation (as well as upstream), to keep the
voltage within a reasonable range. It will vary as much as 5-10% due to load
conditions and main generator variations. There is no way to be assured of
any exact voltage at your point of use, short of an individual voltage
regulator.

Your comment on light bulbs reminds me that my father told me, long ago, you
could take a burned out light bulb to the Baltimore Gas and Electric company
and they would give you a new one. After all, it was *their* electricity
that burned it out, and the sooner you got a new one, the sooner you would
be using more of their product. In those days, it might not be unreasonable
for someone to go back to their kerosene lamps for awhile, and you might not
be able to buy a new bulb es easily or cheaply as today.

I wonder what is the effect of higher voltage on the longevity of more
efficient screw-in fluorescent bulbs? I have largely switched over to them,
and only one or two have burned out over a couple of years.

Paul E. Schoen
www.pstech-inc.com
 
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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:19:28 GMT, in sci.electronics.design Rich Grise

snip all those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
Heh. 112.4 +- .1 , Whittier, CA, in an industrial district where
"lighting" (and wall outlets) come off one of the 3 phases in a factory.

Cheers!
Rich
try an LM78HP127ac


martin
 
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James Morrison

Jan 1, 1970
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I wonder what is the effect of higher voltage on the longevity of more
efficient screw-in fluorescent bulbs? I have largely switched over to them,
and only one or two have burned out over a couple of years.

Paul et al,

I live in a rural area where the voltage fluctuates quite a bit. When
we first moved here we replaced every incandescent light bulb at least
once in the first year. We started replacing them with compact
fluorescent bulbs and we haven't had to change one of those yet in the 4
years we've been here.

It's on the list of things to do to understand why this is but I've
never gotten around to it.

Cheers,

James.
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
How long do your light bulbs last ?:)

I just measured 119.5VAC, about 40' from a two-house step-down
transformer (which is the usual method in this area for underground
electrical distribution).

Jim Thompson


Buy 130 Volt bulbs, they last a lot longer.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Paul E. Schoen

Jan 1, 1970
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Kevin Aylward said:
It doesn't because its wrong. The official standard in the US *IS* 120V.
It is also interesting to look at the standard voltages as you go up from
low voltage to medium and high voltage. For single phase, the standard seems
to be 120/240. For three phase, it is 120/208. There is also 240 V three
phase, which would have 138 VAC Phase to neutral, but this is rarely used.
Then 480 V three phase, which is 277 VAC phase to neutral. The 277 is often
used in lighting circuits. You sometimes see 416 VAC (208*2), and there is
also some 600 VAC, which is the limit for "low voltage".

I have also heard that power sources are rated higher, as 240 or 480 VAC,
while the equipment that uses these sources is normally rated lower, as 220,
230, 440, or 460. It may also apply to 120, 115, and 110. It is interesting,
however, that I have never heard of anything other than 208 VAC for that
type of three phase, even though it typically varies from 200 to 216 VAC.

In the medium voltage area, from 600V to 5000V, very common voltages are
4160, which is 208 * 20, and also 2400, which is just the line-to-neutral of
4160. There is also 4800 V, which is about the limit. These are all based on
ratios of 2, 4, and 5, as well as, of course sqrt(3) to convert L-L to L-N
for three phase. Medium voltage is commonly used for high power motors and
generators, and for residential and small commercial and industrial
distribution lines, in cables and overhead.

I don't know as much about standards for high voltage AC. I think 13.8 kV
and 14.4 kV are fairly common, and possibly 57.6. Of course, these are also
the same numbers as common baud rates! I think 100 kV or 120 kV is also
common. The really big transmission lines I think are in the order of 500kV,
750kV, 1MV, and maybe up to 2MV or so.

Many long distance transmission lines are now DC, because of about 50%
better efficiency due to less radiated emissions and impedance losses. There
are some interesting articles on the effects of having a high voltage field
of DC with respect to the earth, where there is a constant "wind" of ions
traveling from one conductor to another. There are supposed health benefits
from negative ions, and feeling of impending disaster from positive ions
(which is evidenced just before lightning storms in behavior of animals,
including people). This strays a bit from the original question, but it is a
matter of interest.

The actual conversion from AC at the generator, to DC for transmission, and
back to AC for distribution, is also interesting.
 
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Paul E. Schoen

Jan 1, 1970
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Buy 130 Volt bulbs, they last a lot longer.
The problem with incandescent bulbs is that they are very inefficient (at
creating light) at lower voltages. They are, however, almost 100% efficient
at creating heat. So, incandescents are OK in the winter, as they are just
another heat source. The color of the light also changes with voltage, which
may or may not be desirable. Compact fluorescents are much more efficient,
and are now very low priced. They seem to last much longer, and are probably
more tolerant of higher voltages. Their drawbacks are mostly their harsher
bluish color, and they don't work as well in cold temperatures.

Paul
 
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