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Lostgallifreyan
- Jan 1, 1970
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Correction, "...it will stop."
Thermostat for laser printer fuser temp?
Correction, "...it will stop."
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Guest
- Jan 1, 1970
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am slowly weaning from this techno madness, it is like a creeping crud,
society gets crazed and beleives the earth will be saved by using this
technostuf. pity them
some actually think we will emigrate to another flying rock in the universe.
pity them too.
b gates, now the best artist at this pogrom on human decency, has attempted
to ally his obligation by 'giving' that which he never earned back to some
of less fortunate of situations. hes gonna die just like everyone else, it
wont matter and no one cares.
big companies/small individuals practice the same ignorance toward life,
short term perspective long term dreams.
future/past, we all gonna die anyway, so grab while u can??
solidified security, whatta hooey that is. only means you have a grabbed
too much already.
the kings exist still, under assumed identities and perform the same
crueltys as ever they have.
Don't kid yourself. They don't think of it AT ALL. Period. There are two
ways to think things like this, unless you're no longer sane, in which case
all bets are off:
1. You assume it IS relevent to you, and all that you care about, in which
case it nags at you till you eventually do something, ANYTHING, to appease
the nagging sense of doubt, in order to make yourself feel more secure. OR
2. You assume your security is ALREADY assured, thus you don't think of
doing anything to change what others appear to be whinging about as a
perceived threat.
Given that the firms doing this ARE amongst the most secure, financially,
politically, and socially, their arrogance is the cause. This is not mere
ignorance, it is WILLFUL ignorance, the worst and most dangerous kind. It
also the kind that is hardest to forgive, and if resources become low
enough to make a majority of people start to begrudge this and DO something
about the way they choose to spend their money, it will carry on. There are
firms that will sell cheap refills, but these aren't the cure, they DEPEND
on the problem to exist.
Now, as I'm saying my small rant in the presence of electronics engineers,
some of which are considering their own business management as well as
electronics details, I won't try to tell them solutions they probably know
more about themselves, it's enough to point out tht there will be a market
for products that don't fleece the buying public at unacceptable expense.
I do have one small suggestion, I guess. Innovation is the ONLY way a small
firm can get ahead. After all, it;s buying up innovators that makes the big
firms get ahead, right? So, if small firms patent their stuff precisely
instead of in the aggressive way large firms do to try to stop others,
instead of just protecting themselves, this can help, it can prevent a
large firm from muying and burying innovation that threatens their own
wasteful empires, and it can also prevent them from revising history to try
to force their exploitation of your ideas. Patent it under your own name if
you invent it. A firm can't claim your idea even if you thought it up on
their time! Do they OWN your mind? I think not. At least copyright it by
sending yourself signed sealed copies. Do this before it becomes valuable
to someone else.
There may be all kinds of better ideas to erode the tech society that
wastes so heavily, but I'm not inside it enough to think of much more than
I have said here.[/QUOTE]
society gets crazed and beleives the earth will be saved by using this
technostuf. pity them
some actually think we will emigrate to another flying rock in the universe.
pity them too.
b gates, now the best artist at this pogrom on human decency, has attempted
to ally his obligation by 'giving' that which he never earned back to some
of less fortunate of situations. hes gonna die just like everyone else, it
wont matter and no one cares.
big companies/small individuals practice the same ignorance toward life,
short term perspective long term dreams.
future/past, we all gonna die anyway, so grab while u can??
solidified security, whatta hooey that is. only means you have a grabbed
too much already.
the kings exist still, under assumed identities and perform the same
crueltys as ever they have.
Lostgallifreyan said:
Don't kid yourself. They don't think of it AT ALL. Period. There are two
ways to think things like this, unless you're no longer sane, in which case
all bets are off:
1. You assume it IS relevent to you, and all that you care about, in which
case it nags at you till you eventually do something, ANYTHING, to appease
the nagging sense of doubt, in order to make yourself feel more secure. OR
2. You assume your security is ALREADY assured, thus you don't think of
doing anything to change what others appear to be whinging about as a
perceived threat.
Given that the firms doing this ARE amongst the most secure, financially,
politically, and socially, their arrogance is the cause. This is not mere
ignorance, it is WILLFUL ignorance, the worst and most dangerous kind. It
also the kind that is hardest to forgive, and if resources become low
enough to make a majority of people start to begrudge this and DO something
about the way they choose to spend their money, it will carry on. There are
firms that will sell cheap refills, but these aren't the cure, they DEPEND
on the problem to exist.
Now, as I'm saying my small rant in the presence of electronics engineers,
some of which are considering their own business management as well as
electronics details, I won't try to tell them solutions they probably know
more about themselves, it's enough to point out tht there will be a market
for products that don't fleece the buying public at unacceptable expense.
I do have one small suggestion, I guess. Innovation is the ONLY way a small
firm can get ahead. After all, it;s buying up innovators that makes the big
firms get ahead, right? So, if small firms patent their stuff precisely
instead of in the aggressive way large firms do to try to stop others,
instead of just protecting themselves, this can help, it can prevent a
large firm from muying and burying innovation that threatens their own
wasteful empires, and it can also prevent them from revising history to try
to force their exploitation of your ideas. Patent it under your own name if
you invent it. A firm can't claim your idea even if you thought it up on
their time! Do they OWN your mind? I think not. At least copyright it by
sending yourself signed sealed copies. Do this before it becomes valuable
to someone else.
There may be all kinds of better ideas to erode the tech society that
wastes so heavily, but I'm not inside it enough to think of much more than
I have said here.[/QUOTE]
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Lostgallifreyan
- Jan 1, 1970
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It can work out, and we don't need to wear hair shirts and wring our hands
either.. (old cliche, but still indicative).
Most of earth's history seems to show that while adaptation and new
lifeforms can develop explosively, any security is built on diversity, not
monoculture. This doesn't mean that small firms can't be allowed to want to
earn and keep what they earn. It actually means they do more to help us all
if they DO do these things, making it harder to be bought out oy the large
monocultures.
Whether I think we're all going to hell or not depends on my mood as much
as anything, but the best way out of this mess is the same thing nature
does when threatened, Dig your heels in, buy yourself some time, protect
your reserves. Anyone can do this if they don't try to take on too much.
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Lostgallifreyan
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
Small addition: Co-operation. That can help too. It doesn't need to be some
kind of communism either, we have the internet. Just being able to be aware
of each other's efforts helps. So long as the internet isn't made private
and secret, it will help. That's new, no-one ever had this before, it's
like the revolution of cheap printing. It's no accident that this
discussion springs from that exact issue, the control of cheap printing.
That's what the big monoculture industries are cashing in on. That's where
they get their power.
There are drives to make the internet private, but it will be harder to
control. it has to be made efficient to even work right. Some of the bigger
industries online, like Usenet providers, are aware that they make more
money by letting people get at more data, instead of restricting it. That
will make it better to try to profit from that to recover losses than to
try to resist that reality with old methods.
I won;t try to be a seer and predict where all this will go, but for now,
it's as free a means of sharing information as we've ever had. Use it. Try
to keep it free. Make it hard for the big monocultures to take it away or
revise on their terms.
Entirely too much ranting, I'm done, I hope. >
kind of communism either, we have the internet. Just being able to be aware
of each other's efforts helps. So long as the internet isn't made private
and secret, it will help. That's new, no-one ever had this before, it's
like the revolution of cheap printing. It's no accident that this
discussion springs from that exact issue, the control of cheap printing.
That's what the big monoculture industries are cashing in on. That's where
they get their power.
There are drives to make the internet private, but it will be harder to
control. it has to be made efficient to even work right. Some of the bigger
industries online, like Usenet providers, are aware that they make more
money by letting people get at more data, instead of restricting it. That
will make it better to try to profit from that to recover losses than to
try to resist that reality with old methods.
I won;t try to be a seer and predict where all this will go, but for now,
it's as free a means of sharing information as we've ever had. Use it. Try
to keep it free. Make it hard for the big monocultures to take it away or
revise on their terms.
Entirely too much ranting, I'm done, I hope. >
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Esther & Fester Bestertester
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
Small addition: Co-operation.
Yes. Help each other!
No, actually they simply use it to amuse themselves until the Messiah comes
(c: I mean, find something you enjoy doing and do it!
And lighten up!
FBt
Yes. Help each other!
No, actually they simply use it to amuse themselves until the Messiah comes
(c: I mean, find something you enjoy doing and do it!
And lighten up!
FBt
