Need help for a heartbeat detector!

Fate

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Hey... I'm working on a heartbeat detector & monitor (using photodiode & detector not microcontroller) for my mini project and need help in designin it... Any kind of help will be greatly appreciated...

Thanx

 

audioguru2

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Hi Fate,
Welcome to our forum.
I found this on the 1st page of a search for Heartbeat on Google:
http://www.web-ee.com/Schematics/HeMon/HeMon.htm

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Fate

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Hey... Thanx for the help but I already got my hands on that one... :p But I've to work without microcontrollers and Pic... :-\ Don't know...

 

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Hi Fate,
You wanted a heartbeat detector so there it is. The detector part I posted has a dual opamp but not a microcontroller nor Pic.
Now what do you want to do with it?

 

Fate

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:-[Hmmm... Now I want to amplify it (a lot)... feed the output to a comparator and then to a mono to get like proper pulses and then count them (per min)... Any more suggestions... ???

 

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:-[Hmmm... Now I want to amplify it (a lot).
Hi Fate,
Look at "B" opamp, no negative feedback. At the low frequency of heartbeats, its gain must be 100,000 or more. You won't have to amplify it.

... feed the output to a comparator
Look again at "B" opamp. It is a comparator, and it even has an adjustable threshold!
It probably already has "proper pulses" so just feed them to a counter.

This circuit is self-contained and has everything that you need. That's why I selected it for you. ;D
 
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yah.. but i wanna noe the lm358 op amp output type.. can u explain how it operate? wats the use of sensitivity and trigger level? thanx a lot

 

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Hi Bird,
The output type of an LM358 opamp is a complementary push-pull emitter-follower stage like most other opamps. See its schematic attached. The LM358 and its big sister, the LM324 quad opamp, is unique in that it can operate with a single supply voltage as low as 3V, and has a very low idle current. In this circuit it operates at 5V.

Opamp A operates as an ordinary AC non-inverting amplifier, with its gain adjusted by the sensitivity pot.
Opamp B operates as a comparator, with an adjustable trigger level.

I guess the sensitivity and trigger level pots allow the circuit to match the enormous difference between different fingers. Probably when a finger is cold, it has low blood-flow.

For its display, you need a counter circuit with a timebase measuring pulses per minute.

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trigger

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I still can't figure out how an LED and LDR can measure the heartbeat................. by what theory it is based on??

Anyone can explain this? ??? ???

 

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Hi Trigger,
I guess the blood flows in a finger in pulses with each heartbeat.
The blood either blocks or passes the red light from the LED with each heartbeat.

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i onli can manage to get lm358am chip.. is it ok?

 

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Hi Bird,
You didn't look it up on Google, did you?
National Semiconductor's sales information sheet says that the AM suffix is for a tiny surface-mount package. You probably want a DIL package for through holes mounting with a suffix of N.

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Hey Trigger...
The optical technique presented here exploits the fact that tiny subcutaneous blood vessels (capillaries) in any patch of skin (fingertip, ear lobe, etc.) furnished with a good blood supply, alternately expand and contract in time with the heartbeat. An ordinary infrared LED/phototransistor pair can sense this rhythmic change as small but detectable variations in skin contrast. That's pretty much the gist of the theory it's based on...

 

Fate

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Hey Bird... Check out the data sheets for LM 358... Btw can't I like use two 741's instead? The specs are pretty much the same...

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audioguru2

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Hi Fate,
A 741 opamp won't work with only a 5V supply, and its output won't go anywhere near ground for a proper logic low. The LM358, MC3358, MC3458, MC33072 or MC34072 will work much better, and they are all duals to match the pinout in the article.

 

Fate

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Hey Guru... Didn't quite get your point abt the output not going to zero... ??? BTW could u explain the PIC part of the circuit.. I'm totally new to the subject...

 
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