Is your pc or laptop not capable of using win 11?

[bertus]

Hello,

Why not install linux on the old pc or laptop?
I am using open suse tumbleweed on my old pc and laptop.
https://www.opensuse.org/
https://get.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/
When you install wine on the linux pc,
a lot of windows programs will run fine.
https://www.winehq.org/
I use wine to run ltspice on my linux pc.

Bertus

 

[Kiwi]

My main PC is fairly new and running Windows 11.

I also have a couple of older W10 computers connected to TVs. Neither of these meet W11 requirements.

I am not sure what I will do with these two, as I don't want to spend the money to replace them if possible.
They only have to run a web browser so might try Linux.
Cheers.

 

[bertus]

Hello,

@Kiwi , What software do you use now on the win 10 pc's ?
Linux comes with a lot of programs and all are free.
Here is the opensuse page from distrowatch, wich shows what software is available:

DistroWatch.com: openSUSE

News and feature lists of Linux and BSD distributions.

distrowatch.com

You can also add extra repositories, like packman for multimedia applications.

Additional package repositories - openSUSE Wiki

en.opensuse.org

Bertus

 

[Kiwi]

Only use Edge and Firefox.

 

[bertus]

Hello,

Opensuse thumbleweed has firefox, falkon, chromium and brave as browsers.

Falkon

The open source KDE web browser which focuses on privacy, security, and customization.

www.falkon.org

Chromium

The browser that puts you first | Brave

The Brave browser is a fast, private and secure web browser for PC, Mac and mobile. Download now to enjoy a faster ad-free browsing experience that saves data and battery life by blocking tracking software.

brave.com

There is also a complete office suite available called libreoffice:

Home | LibreOffice - Free and private office suite - Based on OpenOffice - Compatible with Microsoft

Free office suite – the evolution of OpenOffice. Compatible with Microsoft .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx. Updated regularly, community powered.

www.libreoffice.org

Bertus

 

[danadak]

Overcoming the Win 11 HW requirements to install Win 11 on a win 10
PC :

How to Install Windows 11 on an Unsupported PC: 3 Methods

Upgrading your PC to the latest version of Windows is indeed the right move to keep up with the latest advances, but unlike previous versions of Windows,

geekflare.com

 

[bertus]

Hello,

That method will likely be blocked at some time by microsoft.

Bertus

 

[danadak]

Hard to say. For example one can install without licenses now, and you get
warnings (this is 2+ years running now) but everything works.

The one area where this is a significant problem is drivers vendors no
longer keep up with.

So question is, is MS going the apple route where they want to take
control totally of the HW. Of course the hacker community has and
will continue have answers to the violation of independence.

I had a very poor experience with Linux years past, drivers, the dearth of them,
program install not user friendly to name a few. A lot of that has been cleaned
up. I see suppliers no longer trying to support all the primary OS's anymore with
costs to support them simply under the axe. Maybe AI will take over that task...

I found in embedded world lack of vendor tools coverage for Linux a show
stopper. But thats my specific need, not a generality.

I think there will be, at some point, a merge of Linux and Win, the world, AI,
simply wont tolerate for ever the costs imposed by lack of common WW
interoperability and interface. An un-necessary and warrantless cost.

Regards, Dana.

 

[bertus]

Hello,

Here is an other page about win 11 on "not compatible" win 10 pc's :

Even 'Incompatible' Windows 10 PCs Can Get Windows 11 for Free. Here's How

Your Windows 10 laptop or desktop might not meet the requirements for upgrading to Windows 11, but you can still do it, and it likely won't cost anything.

www.cnet.com

Bertus

 

[Sunnysky]

Any old Win 10 PC can be upgraded to Win 11 if you disable TPM in the registry with an in-place live upgrade. Although I recommend what I used with an 8GB USB boot with WIN11 X64 PRO EN JULY ACTIVATED OFFICE 2021 TPM REMOVED.iso loaded using Rufus.exe.
This has some nice benefits but you may not appreciate. You can also download a Win 11 version from MS using RUFUS.
There is no real urgency to upgrade Win10 if you don't have any security issues. Windefend works reasonably well.

I asked GPT to expand on the details here.

Can I use an old WIn10 PC and upgrade to Win 11 with TPM disabled in the registry with an in-place live or USB boot upgrade?
YES

 

[Sunnysky]

My Win 11 is customized to relocate toolbar, use a classic start menu, disable all Metro Apps, use a full Win 10 explorer shell extensions and run A/V TV movie/series using Stremio.exe, sometimes Kodi, and HDHomerun, my dual digital TV tuner with OTA antenna.

I removed many Scheduled tasks, bloatware and customized using;
UWT5
WinAero Tweaker
Winget in Powershell to install apps from MS Store and auto updates of Apps on boot.
Bloatware-Removal-Utility.ps1

I only use SSD drives for speed and PCI-e SSD for even faster speed (> 1.5GB/s write) and old 8T HDD's for large storage.

 

[bertus]

 

[bertus]

 

[bertus]

As a Linux user, many of these concepts are foreign to me.

Who in there right mind would allow their digital lives to be taken over like this?

 

[Sunnysky]

The best OS is the one that does more than you want and you know how to use it.
I use win11-21H2 with TPM and SB disabled.

 

[davenn]

I use win11-21H2 with TPM and SB disabled.

and how is that done?

 

[Sunnysky]

There are several ways;
1. upgrade with reg keys added to determine the max level to update and with bypass keys. using option to keep files and not clean install.
2. get the torrent for the iso for win21H2 with no TPM , save it , open using 7-zip to see and run setup.exe or use Rufus to burn to bootable USB or
3. use Rufus.exe 4.9 + change select to DOWNLOAD then click it and select EUFI SHELL 2.2 then select any release of win11 like 21H2 with the above instructions

But to customize; I use win11 debloater, winaero tweaker, explorer patcher, Ultimate Windows Tweaker for a couple shell tools. Then disable Windows updates, Windefender, add folders to exclude, I don't like bloated Edge and use Brave browser

This assumes you have some experience doing these kinds of installs. It takes a couple hrs. and I used 16GB Ram but preferred 32 GB and at least 500 MB SSD

Search web for better instructions:
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig