Alarm central monitoring software

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Soren & Birgitte

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi everyone,
Does anyone know of public domain software for monitoring alarms? My alarm
can send in numerous formats including Fast format, Franklin 4+2, SIA, and
Contact ID.
I would like to see if i can make the software run on my mobile phone or PDA
in order to monitor the house from there. Anyone tried something like that?

Best regards
Soren
 
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Jackcsg

Jan 1, 1970
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Soren & Birgitte said:
Hi everyone,
Does anyone know of public domain software for monitoring alarms? My alarm
can send in numerous formats including Fast format, Franklin 4+2, SIA, and
Contact ID.
I would like to see if i can make the software run on my mobile phone or PDA
in order to monitor the house from there. Anyone tried something like that?

Best regards
Soren
Soren, don't take this the wrong way, believe me I like people who think
creatively. Most mobile phones and PDA's work on embedded technology.
There's no hard drive storage for storing, or running what you might think
is a standard piece of software. Most do however, have embedded software for
running a (CE) version of Internet Explorer. You would need a interface
capable of providing this to your Mobile or PDA for it to work. There is a
company which has already done this with a "Virtual Keypad" for what, or
your way of thinking. You could even view a small affordable Panasonic
Network Camera to verify what's happening remotely at your house. That has
been done, and works great, providing you have the connectivity.
The real answer is though, the industry has not quite advanced this far as
of yet, to make it more available or widespread to the General Public. Hang
in there....

Jack
 
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Aegis

Jan 1, 1970
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Jackcsg said:
Soren, don't take this the wrong way, believe me I like people who think
creatively. Most mobile phones and PDA's work on embedded technology.
There's no hard drive storage for storing, or running what you might think
is a standard piece of software. Most do however, have embedded software for
running a (CE) version of Internet Explorer. You would need a interface
capable of providing this to your Mobile or PDA for it to work. There is a
company which has already done this with a "Virtual Keypad" for what, or
your way of thinking. You could even view a small affordable Panasonic
Network Camera to verify what's happening remotely at your house. That has
been done, and works great, providing you have the connectivity.
The real answer is though, the industry has not quite advanced this far as
of yet, to make it more available or widespread to the General Public. Hang
in there....

Jack

Are there not CS's with web-based monitor functions (for the end-user)? If
so, the PDA could just go to that website.
 
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Bob Worthy

Jan 1, 1970
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I think he may be trying to avoid the connection to a monitoring facility.
Out of curiosity, has anyone experienced or witnessed a person, that is
monitoring his own alarms, when they receive that alarm on their phone or
pager? All I can invision is that their reaction is like when their pregnant
wife tells them it is time to go to the hospital. Might make for some of
"America's funniest home videos".

Bob4Secur
 
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RH.Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob, early in the game when I was still learning the ropes in this business,
I helped a friend out who didn't wish to have his alarm monitored. I had
previously installed it as a "local" system as a favour to him, and when he
went away on a short holiday, I reprogrammed it to send alarms to my
business pager. Well as luck would have it, someone opened up his garage
door legitimately without first turning off the alarm, and I got the alarm
on my pager.

I remember the feeling of total helplessness I had because here I had a
possible real breakin to deal with and I was miles away. I felt responsible
to make a decision that could be serious or not, with no information at my
disposal as to the nature of the alarm. So I left what I was doing and drove
the half hour to his home to discover the false alarm, all the time worried
about what was going on.

Well, I quickly made the decision to eliminate this mickey mouse arrangement
and told him to hook up because I was NOT going through that foolishness
again. The monitoring station would have quickly eliminated this problem
when they received the cancel code, or resolved it with a call to the
premises.

I know it might seem self serving to some, since we do make some money on
the monitoring, but this is IMO a very poor way to conduct business with an
alarm system. It's up to the consumer to make these kinds of decisions, but
I would never be involved in that sort of situation again. It's pure "mickey
mouse" !!

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
www.homemetal.com
 
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Jackcsg

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm sure that's the MO. I just find it somewhat humorous that this same
requirement pops up about every month or so.

Jack
 
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Jackcsg

Jan 1, 1970
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I have never heard that term "Mickey Mouse" used in this industry...
Seems more "Goofy" than "Mickey"....
I do agree with you though.

Jack
 
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RH.Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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Aw that's just my generic term for anything that is not at all professional
in nature....also descriptive of all things "amateur", or "useless" in
design to the point of being foolish....

RHC
 
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Jackcsg

Jan 1, 1970
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I know....I was just giving you shit. You just described 90% of the industry
though. ;-)

Jack
 
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RH.Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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Awh...come on now....our industry is not all that way Jack. I know it seems
that way sometimes, but I don't think it's fair to judge the whole industry
by some of the dealers that haunt this newsgroup. We have our share of
colourful characters, but most probably do a credible job of serving their
clients or they wouldn't still be in business. One thing I do know though,
the pay scales in the security industry compared to other industries
(telecommunications specifically...) is quite low, thereby not always
attracting the best people. And I do fault the largest companies for a lot
of things (the largest of whom is the worst bottom feeder in our industry),
including not providing any real leadership or guidance to the industry.
However, greed always succeeds on the short term over more esoteric issues
such as ethics, leadership and industry assistance...

Such is life in any industry......

RHC
 
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Jackcsg

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't judge anything by this virtual news group. Companies are in business
because consumers just don't know any better, or care much about values
anymore. I see it everywhere, live and in person. It doesn't discourage me
in the least, it's how ignorant people learn things, and see better ways.
Such is the evolution cycle...

Jack
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Jackcsg said:
I don't judge anything by this virtual news group. Companies are in business
because consumers just don't know any better, or care much about values
anymore. I see it everywhere, live and in person. It doesn't discourage me
in the least, it's how ignorant people learn things, and see better ways.
Such is the evolution cycle...


Are you saying there's actually hope that one day a fish will "evolve" into
a decent human being??? "Who'd-a-thot"!!
 
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Jackcsg

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank Olson said:
Are you saying there's actually hope that one day a fish will "evolve" into
a decent human being??? "Who'd-a-thot"!!
It's already happened Frank. They're called "Mermaids".
It's fine example of don't play with yourself while your fishing....
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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AlarmReview said:
1. The "S" word is uttered.

2. They start debating themselves over if it's real or false, swaying towards
false as much as they can.

3. They start trying to think of neighbors, friends, relatives, coworkers,
acquaintances, the pizza delivery guy (what's his name?), the dark skin guy at
the 7-11, and even that homeless guy in the park, and wonder if they would be
able to check the premise.

4. The "S" word is uttered again.

5. They make a few calls and find out that everyone is busy, away, not
answering, or wonder why you called them since they haven't talked to you since
high school.

6. The "F" word is uttered.

7. Convinces self it's another false alarm.

8. Decides this may be the real one.

9. The "M.F." word is uttered as they stop what their doing and start heading
to the house.

10. Wonders if it's more practical to get rid of ESPN IX and HBO 45, which
they never watch, and get monitoring!

Rob-

LOL!!! Great post, Rob!!!
 
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Soren & Birgitte

Jan 1, 1970
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Yes, indeed i wanted to monitor my own home. Using proper monitoring
software i should be able to catch alarm, sabotage, arm/disarm signals etc.
I have pretty smart phone which runs java programs etc, so that might just
do the trick if i could find one. I am a software engineer, so i usually
make my wierd projects work. I found ContactID software at
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+AlarmReceiver
But this is part of a bigger package (PBX software to run on linux). I will
try to look more into it, but this does not look like something that will
run on my phone ;(

Best regards
Soren
 
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Jackcsg

Jan 1, 1970
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If you don't mind carrying around a back pack....I could rig something up
for you.
Your not quite living in reality, on the software side of things.

Jack
 
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Jim Divoky

Jan 1, 1970
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On November 21, 2003, I received a page to my phone that turned out to be my
Xanboo web-based service notifying me of smoke detection at my
storage/office unit. I subsequently went to their website where I indeed
could see pictures of the smoke in my 3600 sq ft unit. Unfortunately, I
didn't notice the page until four hours after it arrived and I was called by
a friend advising me of a fire. The fire burned for 8 hours before it was
declared under control. The entire 400'x45' structure and contents were a
total loss. Even had I called the fire department immediately upon
receiving the page, the outcome may not have been any different if the Fire
Marshall's theory that the fire started in an adjacent unit was correct.
OTOH, the insurance company's fire investigator thought the fire started in
my unit in which case a call to the FD may have made a difference. See
http://www.brimfieldfire.com/brimfield_inferno.htm

My previous fire occurred Feb. 21, 2001 when my house burned to the ground.
My pre-arrangement with the neighbor apparently wasn't explicit enough. I
assumed my instructions were clear that when the fire siren goes off someone
should call the VFD. The stupid neighbor actually watched the glow of the
fire while listening to the siren and only when a propane tank 10 feet from
the house exploded did she call a neighbor to ask "What should I do?
Unfortunately, it was too late by that time.

Needless to say, I am now a firm believer in monitored systems. Anything
less is a waste of money. And don't assume insurance will cover all your
loss. I lost tens of thousands of dollars. I'm considering retrofitting my
new home with automatic sprinklers.

Jim
 
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Jim Divoky

Jan 1, 1970
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Yes, you can monitor your own home but do it in addition to a monitoring
service. Perhaps your situation is different than mine but I can't
guarantee I will always be home or near my phone or that I will awake when
my phone rings.

There is software available. HAL, HAI, & Homeseer come to mind. Just
Google for them. They're not free. If you want free, write it yourself.
It's not terribly difficult. For a basic capability, you just monitor the
RS232C port for signals and generate a page or email to your phone.

Jim
 
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Bob Worthy

Jan 1, 1970
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In this business, we are usually called in after the fact and hearing the
horror stories is always the worst part of the initial meeting. I am sorry
for you loss and wish you would have decided on monitoring after your 2001
loss. A couple of years ago, a customer called me to trim out a system in a
home they had just purchased and were remodeling. He didn't want monitoring.
When I ask him why, he told me his wife would set off their other system so
often that everyone just got immune to it. We talked about fire and that we
would use a voice siren driver to differenciate the alarms. He decided to
get monitored and train his children to react to the fire signal. Three
weeks later the at 5:30AM the air conditioner air handler caught on fire and
smoke filed the house. All four children were exactly where they were
supposed to be so that he could find them. Short of some smoke inhalation,
they all survived the fire. Although the interior suffered alot of damage,
the fire department was able to save the structure. He called to thank me
over and over. Bottom line is we did our job. He was the "Hero" for training
his family on what to do in an emergency situation.

Bob4Secur
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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Thats because of too many phrases like

"I don't want to pay for monitoring"

"Monitoring is too expensive"

"My cellphone will work better"

After a while one gives up
 
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