Anyone have the stats on how much power the normal computer uses?

[DarkMatter]

I like my new outlook express.
It tells me who the post comes from and I do not have to bother opening dark
matters posts.

Yet you still did, AND you STILL pull the retarded baby "b"
bullshit. You couldn't be any more retarded about Usenet.

Outhouse Express sucks ALMOST as bad as you do.

 

[Romy]

Tube monitors use about 150 watts.
Flat panel monitors of about 17 inches use about 40 watts.
If you live in a high electric cost area, as I do, a flat panel will pay
for itself very quickly.

---Snip---

Hmmm, I ran a few numbers to see how long it would take me to recoup the
additional cost of an LCD vs. a CRT monitor. I think I screwed up my
calculations! Using this data:

19" CRT Monitor, 150W, $200
17" LCD Monitor, 40W, $500

Cost per kWh = $0.092
Used for 3hrs a day at full power.

$300 (difference in purchase price) / $0.03 (difference in cost to operate
per day) = 9,881.42 Days.
So where did I screw up? Or will it really take me 27.07 years to pay for
the difference in initial purchase price?

The numbers used to calculate were not rounded off, but done so here for the
sake of simplicity.

Romy

 

[DarkMatter]

AHHHHH..... My arrow found its mark.


The very fact you would stereotype more that 30,000,000 people
demonstrates your limited intelligence.

I'm sorry, you retarded twit, but just because SOME stupid Americans
are willing to take a poke up the ass does NOT mean that I have to
dumb down my opinion of their retarded actions.

I didn't stereotype anyone, I put the tail on the donkey. All 30
million of them, from your number. I was one of the guys that AOL
ripped off. ANY of you retards that use them AFTER they committed a
criminal act is as UN-American as they are.

Your own words tell us everything we need to know about you.

Yes. I think AOL, and any retard that uses them should be laughed
at...

Oh... that is what we are doing here. Bwuahahahahahahah!!!

PS- I took the time to intersperse your dribble so you
could follow along.

No. You made another E-1 grade baby bullshit twit remark.
That is all you did. That is all you are.

 

[B J Conner]

FecalMatter doesn't understand why people top post. No one is interested in
reading any thing he has said or will say. I learn all those words by the 8
th grade. The majority of people reach a point soon after when they stop
talking like a sound track from south park or an Eddy Murphy movie.
FecalMatter doesn't understand that most people here are talking about him
not to him.

 

[DarkMatter]

Hmmm, I ran a few numbers to see how long it would take me to recoup the
additional cost of an LCD vs. a CRT monitor. I think I screwed up my
calculations! Using this data:

19" CRT Monitor, 150W, $200
17" LCD Monitor, 40W, $500

Cost per kWh = $0.092
Used for 3hrs a day at full power.

$300 (difference in purchase price) / $0.03 (difference in cost to operate
per day) = 9,881.42 Days.
So where did I screw up? Or will it really take me 27.07 years to pay for
the difference in initial purchase price?

The numbers used to calculate were not rounded off, but done so here for the
sake of simplicity.

Despite the price of the electrical costs, I'll take a good, high
resolution CRT any day over LCD. It's gonna be a few years before I
jump on that bandwagon... like after OLED makes it big.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

Despite the price of the electrical costs, I'll take a good, high
resolution CRT any day over LCD. It's gonna be a few years before I
jump on that bandwagon... like after OLED makes it big.

I took the plunge. Got plenty of space and power cost isn't much of a
consideration, but sharpness and lack of flicker is.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[DarkMatter]

FecalMatter doesn't understand why people top post.

I do understand goddamned retards, like you though.

No one is interested in
reading any thing he has said or will say.

The original poster did. So much for your bullshit.

I learn all those words by the 8
th grade.

Sad. I learned them from adults in the military. In my view,
retards like you need them, if not heavier persuasions. In fact, some
of you idiots should be publicly stoned in front of the rest of you
idiots. Even that won't solve the problem. The problem is that your
mother should have flushed your lame ass, the moment you exited from
her lame ass. The fact that she did not means that she should be in
jail for letting you live.

The majority of people reach a point soon after when they stop
talking like a sound track from south park or an Eddy Murphy movie.

Ahhh... You are the expert? I think not.

FecalMatter doesn't understand that most people here are talking about him
not to him.

And you don't understand that YOU are a prime example of just how
retarded the "rules are meant to be broken" crowd can actually get.

 

[DarkMatter]

I took the plunge. Got plenty of space and power cost isn't much of a
consideration, but sharpness and lack of flicker is.

Took what plunge? LCD? Yes, it is a plunge... downward.

CRTs are sharper, and they refresh faster. I'm not sure which side
you are on though, as your wording is ambiguous to me.

One can buy a High Res, Flat faced CRT at 19" for less than $300.
That's pretty good. I doubt that an LCD will ever match it.

IBM has a 19M pixel OLED. It is prolly like $25k though.. :]

 

[Kilowatt]

My vote if for top posting. I too would rather read the new information and
review from top down. Top posting can be structured backward and would be
as easy to follow. I like it that way so I do it that way.

 

[Kilowatt]

If you don't clip out the line you can follow the links all
the way back to the original message. I don't think bottom posters even
realize that.

 

[Kilowatt]

My computer has a 400 watt power supply. I could do the math if my 19'
monitor wasn't so heavy
I might really try it one day. For now I just turn it off.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

Took what plunge? LCD? Yes, it is a plunge... downward.

CRTs are sharper, and they refresh faster. I'm not sure which side
you are on though, as your wording is ambiguous to me.

I've gone over to the LCD side. Unambiguous.

One can buy a High Res, Flat faced CRT at 19" for less than $300.
That's pretty good. I doubt that an LCD will ever match it.

Would you want to read a 2000 page PDF book on it? Cost per viewing
area is still higher for LCDs.

IBM has a 19M pixel OLED. It is prolly like $25k though.. :]

OLED is interesting, but a ways away for big displays. Not sure how
good the color fidelity will be for page layout. They are already
practical for small colorful displays. I'd love to be able to get a C
or D-size 300 DPI work area with good color rendition for page layout.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[sQuick]

all
the way back to the original message. I don't think bottom posters even
realize that.

Not if its expired from the news server.

sQuick..

 

[DarkMatter]

My vote if for top posting. I too would rather read the new information and
review from top down. Top posting can be structured backward and would be
as easy to follow. I like it that way so I do it that way.

It isn't about voting, dipshit. It IS bout you following the norms
and conventions of the forums in which you invade.

You "don't follow the rules" x gen punks are the most criminal
mindset retards this country has ever seen.

 

[DarkMatter]

If you don't clip out the line you can follow the links all
the way back to the original message. I don't think bottom posters even
realize that.

Look, dipshit.. Not everyone reads news from the same source as you.
OR using the same news reader, nor does everyone have access to all
previous posts, nor do they sort or view the posts the same way that
your lame ass does... You guys are so retarded! This shit has been
around and around for years. You are on the WRONG side of the fence,
you little dweebish wanna bes.

 

[DarkMatter]

My computer has a 400 watt power supply. I could do the math if my 19'
monitor wasn't so heavy
I might really try it one day. For now I just turn it off.

The rating on the power supply has NOTHING to do with what the PC
actually uses, dingledorf. It is a declaration of the MAXIMUM that
the supply can do. The PC itself uses far less.

 

[DarkMatter]

Would you want to read a 2000 page PDF book on it? Cost per viewing
area is still higher for LCDs.

WTF do you mean? A properly configured CRT has LESS flicker than
ANY LCD does.

I do not experience eye strain on my CRT. I DO experience it on our
60Hz LCD monitors, however.

 

[DarkMatter]

Not if its expired from the news server.

sQuick..

Trust me, the "top posting is easier" crew of retards in this world
will never get it. They also are the same crew that didn't do well on
their SATs. Aptitude is everything in some circles.

 

[bushbadee]

You made quite a few assumptions that were not true.
17 inch panel monitors sell at Costco for as low as 350 dollars and I have
seen the cheaper at Tigerdirect.

A 19 inch monitor is closer to 200 or more watts.
They are generally rated at about 250 watts

I do not live in the tennesee valley and do not pay 9.2 cents per killowhat
hour.
I pay about 26.2 cents per kilowatt hour plus tax.

My 17 inch panel monitor has a 40 watt supply and it runs cool so I assume
the monitor is using a lot less than 40 watts unless the screen is a bright
white and I do not run it at full brightness.
I would assume it uses closer to 10 watts with a blue , but not full
brightness desk top.( Just one color on verses all three)

Now the final insult.
When you want to get rid of your tube monitor, better not just dump it in
the garbage.
You might find a citation on your door if you do.
What you do with it, and you can not donate it as no one seems to want them,
is drive (at least for me) about 90 miles to a hazardous waste site and pay
them to take it off your hands.

Of course you can do what ssome city inspector told me to do with it.
Leave it in an alley and some one will surely steal it.

But I tried that with an obsolete portable computer and I got all sorts of
calls telling me I had forgotten it some wheres, please come and pick it up.

No flat pannels are a lot cheaper now and I guess that is why they now
outsell tube monitors.

Take a course in accounting and

Put those figures in your calculator.

YOu remind me of my son when I used to tell him it cost 50 cents a mile to
drive a car he used to laugh at me.
Now he is an accountant he tells that I am not figuring in all the expenses
and it costs even more.
I just bought a new set of premioum 85000 mile tires for $400.
I will be lucky to get 10,000 miles out of them so that by next winter at
the start of the season I will buy a new set and have fresh treads for the
winter.
Thats 4 cents a mile just for tires.
I get great milage driving down the mountain.
But pretty lousy driving up the mountain.

Tube monitors use about 150 watts.
Flat panel monitors of about 17 inches use about 40 watts.
If you live in a high electric cost area, as I do, a flat panel will pay
for itself very quickly.

---Snip---

Hmmm, I ran a few numbers to see how long it would take me to recoup the
additional cost of an LCD vs. a CRT monitor. I think I screwed up my
calculations! Using this data:

19" CRT Monitor, 150W, $200 [15 inch ones use about 150 watts . !9 inch

ones are labled at about 250 watts][you neglect disposal costs]

17" LCD Monitor, 40W, $500 [ Now cost about 350 or less.]

Cost per kWh = $0.092 [try 26.2 cents plus tax when you have it.]
Used for 3hrs a day at full power.

$300 (difference in purchase price) / $0.03 (difference in cost to operate
per day) = 9,881.42 Days. [Try $1.50 a day to operate a tube for 24

hours per day and it does not drop much when it goes into suspension if you
want a quick on. It cost more to keep; the filaments on than you are
figureing.

So where did I screw up? [every wheres]

Or will it really take me 27.07 years to pay for
the difference in initial purchase price?

The numbers used to calculate were not rounded off, but done so here for the
sake of simplicity.

Romy

 

[bushbadee]

I did not mention that Spehro but you are right.
The extra couple of square feet of desk space also comes in handy.
I rent floor space out at 1.50 per foot per month on a property.
I would put desk space at , about 10 dollars a square foot and I guess that
should be figured in.