Anyone using perimiter fence protection

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nick markowitz

Jan 1, 1970
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Have a customer with need to protect fence beams and motion are out im
familiar with leaky coax etc any one use any of this stuff good or bad
experience with it what do you like.
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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nick said:
Have a customer with need to protect fence beams and motion are out im
familiar with leaky coax etc any one use any of this stuff good or bad
experience with it what do you like.


I prefer mines. If you position them correctly there's not much to
clean-up. Mostly little fuzzy bits.
 
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nick markowitz

Jan 1, 1970
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I just checked out the window and it hasn't hit here yet.  :^)

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How you doing Bob so far everything is going good for me still have
the iliostomy issue and some dizzy ness issues but other wise doing
good and trying to build my self back up to full time work.
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
Glad to hear you're making progress, Nick. I'm doing amazingly well.
The tumors are completely gone, which is a true miracle. The oncologist
was saying that I had maybe six months to live. Now it appears I'm
going to beat this thing. If I do, I'll be about the only one to do
so. The prognosis for malignant pleural effusion from lung cancer is
pretty grim -- often only a few months from discovery. I've had it for
nearly three years and to suddenly be cancer free is unheard of.

I did have some minor surgery this week. There's some pain but nothing
like what I had before. In a week or so I should be back to my usual,
annoying self. :^)


That is absolutely fantastic news, Robert!
 
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nick markowitz

Jan 1, 1970
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That is absolutely fantastic news, Robert!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thats fantastic but what is so frightning with cancer people diagnosed
with less than we had are dead yet we where told we were terminal and
are in remission. definately the lord works in mysterious ways.
 
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George Siegle

Jan 1, 1970
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Have used the Copper Head System, ADI/Burtek sell it.
Works great.
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:


I'm not sure if you realize this, but Robert had quit making derogatory
remarks about you way before you reciprocated. Perhaps it's because you
had him blocked but, regardless, the fact is we're "here" now. There
are still a few who look on this as a brief "hiatus" and that may well
be so. Perhaps Robert will go back to the way he was before. If he
does, I know I won't be the only one who's going to be really
disappointed. I've talked with him on the phone a couple of times. I
think I got him on a "down" day once and I know I was able to lift his
spirits a bit (which made me feel good). The past is the past, Jim.
Perhaps the next time you "bump" into him at the ISC show, you'll
actually introduce yourself. Leave the brass knuckles and the hammer in
the hotel room though. ;-)
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
Realizing that my posts were tongue-in-cheek, (as I'm sure Robert
surmised) makes your above post needless and somewhat provocative.

I didn't realize that your comments were "tongue-in-cheek". That's
often difficult to visualize in a "text only" medium.

I know where "I'm" at. I'm sure Robert knows where "he's" at ..... at
this jucture.

There's no need for an arbiter.

I wasn't "arbitrating". I was merely sharing a few factoids. And the
last comment I made in my previous post (and to which you have
responded) was very much "tongue-in-cheek" (notice the "smiley"?)

This is all that I have to say on this subject. Feel free to continue
if you feel compelled.

I only "feel compelled" to clarify. You should know I'm the very LAST
person that wants this forum to degenerate into what it was before.
 
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Roger W

Jan 1, 1970
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As best I can tell, Olbermann is careful to say only that which he can back
up.  O'Reilly and Beck are prolific liars, just like their idol, WonderWom...
er, I mean Palin.

He he he he :) I'm glad you're feeling better. Or at least it
sounds like it. :)
RW
 
I asume you meant "Magic Mulatto." Where is Tom when we need him? <

Working on a php code. I needed a break so I popped in here only to
see this poor attempt at bigotry. Nothing burns my ass more, other
than a midget with a waffle iron, than a God damn sock puppet that
fears using the word nigger. If he's saying Mulatto you know he's
thinking Jigaboo.
This fucking cheese eater needs new material. The BBB report is played
out. I'm shocked the puckhead hasn't posted the Testimony.
I know who this Kingfish is. It's that fucking troll...............BOB
CAMPBELL! Nothing but trouble since the day he started posting here.
Bob hates the coloreds but since he's a canuck he's not well-versed in
racist terms.

In any
case, he's not magical. He's just brilliant. It seems so strange these days
having someone in the White House capable of cogent thought and able to
assemble a complete sentence. <

He's another dopey bastard. This country is up shit's creek sideways.
We need Libertarian leadership. You Democrats and Republicans are cut
from the same cloth. Both parties ignore and abuse the Constitution.
It doesn't matter who does it more. What matters is that it's done at
all.

True, but fortunately he's back in Texas and Obama has replaced him. He did a
nice job this week as Commander In Chief (which Bush repeatedly screwed up,
calling himself the "Commander *of* Chief." It must be heartbreaking having
voted for someone so incredibly stupid that he didn't even know his own title.
Then again, at least Bush knew which building to report to after stealing the
election. Palin is so dumb she thought she would be head of the Senate.<

Ummm Obama broke a barrel of promises already. He's no different than
the 3 guys before him.

Did I mention this php code is driving me batty?
 
Shaddap you mookie fucking douchebag

how can anyone lie more that your messiah, the majic mullatto? gotta be a
bitch voting for someone so naive that they have to break most of their
promises in the first 3 months. I guess if anyone would know about lies it
would be you, being a serial liar. fully documented on google. maybe you
shoud worry about.

http://www.bbb.org/west-florida/business-reviews/electric-equipment-s...

instead. F Rated.

back up. O'Reilly and Beck are prolific liars, just like their idol,
 
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JoeRaisin

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
I asume you meant "Magic Mulatto." Where is Tom when we need him? In
any case, he's not magical. He's just brilliant. It seems so strange
these days having someone in the White House capable of cogent thought
and able to assemble a complete sentence.


True, but fortunately he's back in Texas and Obama has replaced him. He
did a nice job this week as Commander In Chief (which Bush repeatedly
screwed up, calling himself the "Commander *of* Chief." It must be
heartbreaking having voted for someone so incredibly stupid that he
didn't even know his own title. Then again, at least Bush knew which
building to report to after stealing the election. Palin is so dumb she
thought she would be head of the Senate.

This was fun. Care to play again.

Your best pal,
Robert

Oh Please!

They both handled the military in the same way. They gave guidance and
let the onsite commander make the calls.

Are you trying to say that Obama has not broken any promises?

Are you happy with his cabinet appointments? Did you hear that the IRS
(under the dubious leadership of a tax cheat) has decried that any
employee (other that the boss) who is late or cheats on his/her taxes
will be fired. Needless to say they're not happy with this glaring
double standard.

How about some of the things he has talked about or others of his ilk
have proposed in legislation?

Firearms licenses (with intrusive applications), centrally
monitored/controlled thermostats, centralized database of health
records, elimination of the secret ballot.

Yeah... that's what we need.

We have merely traded in the Bushwaffen for the Obamastasi. They are
both (along with their parties) dedicated to the centralization of power
in DC which flies in the face of the tenth amendment.

Now we have the situation were, while it is a terrible thing to profile
mullahs who purposely act provocative in an airport, We have to keep a
close eye on the conservative guy who made it back from Iraq and now
wants nothing more than to provide for his family by the sweat of his
brow and would like to keep just a little bit of the fruits of his
labor. Oh yeah, and, horror of horrors - he goes to church...
 
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KingFish

Jan 1, 1970
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JoeRaisin

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
Uh, no. Obama never put our troops in harm's way based on a pack of
lies. Obama is trying to undo the terrible damage that Bush did to our
military personnel. For example, Bush left thousands of Iraq veterans
without needed medical help. Obama won't do that. Unlike Bush, he
actually cares about the men and women in uniform.

Is that why it was briefly proposed that they bear their own financial
burdens in caring for service related disabilities? Let me guess, you
never heard that one, right? They floated it out there for a few days
until they figured out it was political suicide.
Bush never gave guidance. He just sent them in without a plan.


He's a politician, so no.


So far, so good.


That's a pretty strong choice of words. As I understand it, there was
an error in his reporting which he admitted when his accountants
discovered it. He paid the IRS in full, including interest and penalties.

Okay, he said he used Turbo Tax and that it never prompted him on the
omitted data. The makers of Turbo Tax released a statement that it most
definitely would have done so. So he either lied or he is a moron who
couldn't follow a simple program.

The IMF said they gave him the money to pay the taxes. Now, he must
have noticed the extra coin in his bank account (unless of course the
moron label applies). Well, that and the document he signed saying he
understood the tax issues. So, again, he is either stupid, dishonest or
both.

He didn't pay penalties. Furthermore he didn't pay 2001 and 2002 until
AFTER he was appointed and it became an issue.

I don't see a problem with my choice of words.
I noticed that one (SC I think) senator tried to hold up the appointment
of a bona fide war hero who lost both her legs when her helicopter was
shot down over Iraq from appointment to the VA. This is a woman who is
revered by veterans of all parties but a Republican senator held up her
appointment for weeks without cause.

Could it be he didn't agree with her point of view? Could it be he
didn't agree with the appointment?

Perhaps he, like most politicians, is a partisan, petulant child and was
remembering all the appointments the democrats held up for purely
partisan reasons.
Obama never proposed that.

Thus the phrase, "others of his ilk" though how could it be that such an
intelligent and on the ball president wouldn't know what nefarious
agenda the other members of his party are up to.
That's not even physically possible using current technology.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/13/home-thermostats-big-brothers-next-target/


Great idea.

So much for HIPA
No such law is proposed.
Card Check...
Just what the doctor ordered.


I'm unsure what either of those terms means.

Well... Bushwaffen was a term your folks (anti-Bush) coined in order to
in some way associate him with Hitler and/or the Nazi regime. Of course
you knew that but now that the shoe is on the other foot you are going
to try and make it appear that such games are silly - which of course
they are.
It appears that Obama,
unlike Bush, actually cares about America and Americans. Is he
perfect? No chance. Will he make mistakes? Sure. The difference is
he's basically an honest person (to the degree that one can expect from
a politician). Bush is a liar who slew thousands of American troops on
the altar of his own ego. Obama is brilliant, yet humble whereas Bush
was stupid, yet arrogant.


I'm in favor of centralizing power in Sarasota.


Those guys, American heros, were abandoned by Bush and just about every
previous administration. Obama is finally trying to do something to
help them out.

Oh, you mean by warning local law enforcement that folks like that are
likely to become domestic terrorists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/14/homeland-security-report_n_186834.html
 
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JoeRaisin

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
Briefly proposed? By whom and when?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92111


Good guess.


Who are "they" please? I'm not trying to be snide. I didn't read this
one.


I use Turbo Tax, too. However, I don't do the data entry nor do I read
the reports. An employee does the data entry and my accountant prepares
the forms. I sign the returns but I don't actually sign the checks. An
employee does that, too. I can easily see how someone much busier and,
presumably, much wealthier than me might have missed a screw-up. As to
the makers of the program, would you expect them to admit their software
might have missed something that significant if it did? I'm not saying
they lied, but it wouldn't be the first time a software developer
"misspoke" about an error, especially if they had since fixed the problem.


Or unless, like me, he doesn't check his bank balance routinely. I get
a warning from a staff member if I need to transfer funds to cover
something. Then I tell her to deal wih it. Other than that, I pay
little attention to the "till." This guy certainly has more staff
taking care of things for him than some small fry running an online store.


Did you see the movie, "Being There?" Every time someone told the star
something he would say, "I understand..." :^)

Okay - so you are admitting we have a moron in charge of the treasury.

Are you saying he didn't pay anything during those years or just the
amount owed due to an error?
Neither - I'm talking about the amount he dishonestly tried to avoid
paying and wouldn't have had he not been appointed to head up the
treasury department.
You're entitled to your opinion. So am I.

Yes, however in this case your opinion is based on rationalizations and
a desperate hope that the politician you support is not just as greedy,
power hungry and dishonest as the politician you don't support.

They are simply two sides of the same coin.
Could it be he only wanted to give Obama a hard time without ever giving
a reason for holding up an essential appointment so that she could not
get to work assisting veterans? Could it be that politics was far more
important to him than veterans? Could it be that he's just an a....
(well, you know).

No more or less than Democrats
So he decided to hurt veterans in order to get even with Democrats.
Real patriotic, eh?


Let's see. I'm a bald, white guy. So is Cheney. Does that make us the
same "ilk?" Naah, I never actually shot anyone and I never ordered
anyone water boarded. Then again, I never managed to get any of my ilk
to capture Leuck so... (only kidding) :^)

Since you are apparently not sharp enough (or are you simply being
purposefully obtuse) to follow the context of the conversation I will
spell it out - democrats.
though how could it be that such an intelligent and on the ball
president wouldn't know what nefarious agenda the other members of his
party are up to.

The above assumes there actually is a nefarious agenda. So far you've
offered only allegations that someone named "they" has done or is trying
to do some nefarious stuff.
centrally monitored/controlled thermostats...

That's not even physically possible using current technology.

[link site containing to the following]
["The Programmable Communication Thermostat (PCT) would feature a
"non-removable" FM receiver which could be controlled by Big Brother
in "times of emergency" to drop load in order for "utilities to meet
their supplies [when] the integrity of the grid is being jeopardized."
Of course, we are hearing that adjustments would only be made ±4
degrees, but we aren't so keen on one thing leading to another, if you
catch our drift."]

Wow! What an excellent idea. Instead of losing the entire grid during
extreme load conditions, the utility could send an RF signal out to
lower the load from HVAC systems. Of sourse, if one happens to be a
nutcase conspiracy theorist, this could be construed (in said theorist's
mind at least) as "Big Brother."

Well now that's a far cry from "That's not even physically possible
using current technology" isn't it...
BTW, the site mentions thermostats that would be controlled by an RF
signal from the utility. It doesn't claim they actually exist as of
yet. While communicating thermostats are popular among home automaters,
TTBOMK, there are none that can be controlled by an RF signal from the
power company. Certainly they could be designed and made if there were
a market for them but at this point there's no such market.


You mean HIPAA? The act doesn't prevent a centralized database. It
seeks to reduce unauthorized disclosure. From what little I know about
HIPAA it doesn't seem to be effective. It does an excellent job of
creating lots of extra paperwork, though.


Explain, please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_check


I'm not sure who these folks of mine are. I personally never considered
Bush to be a Nazi. He's an idiot with an ego way bigger than his poor,
little brain. He was a tyrant though, so I can understand how some
might have equated him with the Fuehrer.


Nope. You'r the first to use the expression that I ever noticed. Maybe
one of my "ilk" posted it here some time but I don't recall some stuff
from the pre-chemo days.

Given your political statements over the years, you claim that you NEVER
heard the term Bushwaffen requires, as Hillary said, the willing
suspension of disbelief...

But I'm still gonna do it since annoying political ideologues of either
ilk has become my new hobby.
That's not what the CIA (not Obama) said. They warned local law
enforcement that right-wing groups might try to *recruit* returning
veterans.

It was a blunder made by an Obama appointee - if it weren't a blunder
why would Janet Napolitano apologize and wish she could re-write that
portion.

I have watched the left blame Bush for the stupid or nefarious actions
of every cabinet appointee, civil servant and Army private for the last
eight years. Again, shoes on the other foot and left wing extremists
are now trying to pretend such things didn't happen.


I guess that makes you one of those (according to B.O.) who are
"clinging" to their religion...
 
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JoeRaisin

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
Nope. Just having some fun.

As am I. It was fun watching the right wing W. supporters contorting
logic, playing dumb and stretching reason to defend the indefensible and
now it's fun watching the left wing do the same for B.O.

Did you see Janeane Garofalo asserting that the T.E.A. Parties were due
to racism and nothing else.

I remember another quote by your hero Hillary (the documented liar):

"I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree
with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand
up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree
with any administration."

Substitute "a racist" in place of "not patriotic" and you've got a great
quote for today.

It's just as easy to assume there was evil intent as it is to assume it
was an error. I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt.

ROTFLMAO - Only because he's a democrat. A republican appointee with
the same issues would be vilified by you and your cronies.
So you're saying that Bush, Cheney, McCain and Palin are all "greedy,
power hungry and dishonest?" Excellent. I knew we could fing common
ground if we worked on it long enough. I commend your honesty.

Yes they were. Haven't I been saying that it's just two sides of the
same coin? I don't think there is much common ground here - I believe
in tolerance and compromise - something no ideologue (of either side) is
capable of.
Now as to Obama, he's a politician so I will never completely trust
him. But I believe he's basically honest, patriotic and a decent
person. He's also more intelligent and learned than pretty much the
entire right-wing, Republican base combined, which will come in handy
while trying to undo the terrible damage Bush has done.

He comes from the deepest pit of political corruption in the country.
If you believe he came out of that as pure as the wind driven snow then
I've got a bridge for sale.

Frankly I don't think you truly do, but since you are a leftist
ideologue you have convinced yourself it's so.

I notice you haven't yet responded to this comment. An oversight I trust.

How is it you can read the minds of right wingers, but those on the
right are not allowed to read the minds of the left.

What if I just quoted you and said "I prefer to give him the benefit of
the doubt" without having looked into the actual facts.

Sounds pretty silly doesn't it.

Now, do you have any information on what this unidentified senator said
was his (or her) reasons were for opposing this appointment?

If you want a concrete position from me you will probably have to
provide more information.

For all I know there was no spectral senator who did such a thing for no
apparent reason other than he(or she) is a racist who wants to make
veterans suffer.
Do you think all Democrats agree on these matters?

I must have missed the democrats speaking out against the bill. Oh
wait... none did - and especially not the Obamstasi.

Don't you think it interesting that part of the license application
process is a description of how you intend to store your firearms. That
will save a lot of time when they come to confiscate them.
Perhaps I should have said, "using equipment and systems which currently
exist."

The item obviously exists and according to other posters is already in
place. Now, I know you will say that it is a great and wonderful thing
since it isn't being abused yet - but don't you think it is a little
intrusive.

Rather than using intrusive systems with a real possibility of abuse to
deal with the energy issues, don't you think a better way would be to
follow France's example and build a bunch of safe nuclear plants to
cleanly provide the energy we need?

Never mind - that's an actual solution and most ideologues don't like
real solutions since that takes away from the list of things you can
criticize the other side for.
I looked at this and it apparently has nothing to do with HIPAA. Please
explain.

You are right - it doesn't have anything to do with HIPAA. I never
connected it to HIPAA (except perhaps with a comma).

I know that this proposal is an amazingly dastardly plot and you have to
try and discount any concerns on it - but is that really the best you
could come up with?
I never heard the expression before. Believe what you will.

LOL - whatever you say - but I remain incredulous. It would have been
more believable if you had admitted you had seen the term but never used
it yourself...
You assume more zealoutry than there is. I make no bones about the fact
I'm a liberal Democrat. However, unlike ideological Republicans, I
actually support some members of the other party.

A lot of ideological republicans support Joe Leiberman. Proves nothing.

It was an unfortunate choice of words, but the point was (and everyone
knows it) that the CIA was concerned that right-wing crazies would try
to recruit returning veterans. I don't know how old you are, but I
recall what happened when thousands of veterans returned from Vietnam to
a country that did almost nothing to help physically and emotionally
wounded victims of another senseless war. There were a number of those
folks who got sucked into serious hate groups. Does that mean that
Vietnam vets are terrorists? No, but some were made easy targets for
extremist propaganda, at least partly due to governmental failure to
give them the support they both needed and deserved.


Yeah yeah, I know, Iraq is Vietnam...
BTW, it has always been a source of disgust and embarrassment to me that
a small group anti-war activists spat on US soldiers as they returned
from that war. They should have saved their saliva for the politicians
(of both parties) who sent them there in the first place. Veterans
should be treated as heros, regardless what role they play in any war.


Well, you have to admit that people like "Heckovajob" Brown made it easy
to do.


Uh, no. We don't pick on civil servants or army privates -- just
jackass appointees who allowed a city to drown while they looked for a
good place to eat and that sort of stuff.

Uhm... read the words I wrote - it might help you understand what I'm
saying.

You figure every Democrat is a "left wing extremist?"

Just as every republican is a right wing extremist. The exclusions go
to those who buck the party line and try to advance things that are
actually GOOD for the country and follow the guidelines of the
constitution (you know - not ignoring the tenth amendment by abusing the
interstate commerce clause).
It beats clinging to most other stuff.

He said as though it were a bad thing. Do we finally have something
upon which you disagree with B.O.?
 
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