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audioguru2

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The transistor is turned on too much so clips the bottom of the waveform at high levels.
There isn't any phase-shift visible at 3kHz, and also none is seen at 300kHz.
I don't know how to scale levels so I can't show the phase-shift with the emitter resistor bypassed.

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HI audioguru

I rebiased it again with new values Rc=3.6k,RE=1k,R1=90k,R2=18kC1,C2=10uF
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With R2 as 18k the output is much better and isn't clipped at the bottom, but is beginning to clip at the top. It is best with 20k but I won't show it because 90k is not a standard resistor value.

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HI audioguru
I saw  ur ckt ur using 900mv as input but I m using 5mv and amplifying upto 16.47mv  Av=~3 is this CKT clips on 5mv
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Your transistor isn't doing anything with such a low output level.
I showed you that the output doesn't clip until the level is 180 times greater than you have.

 

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HI audioguru
i have a question that indata sheet of any transistor these values are given
Ic=10ma,VCE=10V HFEmin=100,HFEmax=300. so these Ic  and VCE are saturation values    OR    quiescent values

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Hi Shahzad,
"hFE" is a transistor's DC current gain that is different for each transistor that have the same part number, the range of hFE for a 2N3904 transistor at 10mA collector current and 1.0V Vce is 100 to 300. It is measured with the transistor conducting as a linear amplifier, not saturated. In order for a small transistor to saturate well, a lot of base current is used. The datasheet uses 1/10th of the collector current.

 

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Hi  audioguru
I know that every transistor has its own specfications but today i saw the book of electronic devices by Robert .T. paynter in which he designed the common emitter amplifier by transistor 2N3904 he take VCC=10 and ICQ=1ma and in his design he told that datasheet of 2N3904 gives HFE =70 at ICQ=1ma but we are using HFE= 230 at ICQ=1ma .and he takes VCEQ=0.5VCC as i did so power dissipation by 2N3904 will Pd=ICQ*VCEQ=5mw will be within its maximum rating
it OK for 2N3904 but if we apply the same rule to 2N2222 transistor it datasheet gives this values Ic=150ma,VEC=10v,HFE=100min HFE=max so if we take  this Ic as ICQ and VCE as VCEQ than  1.5W  it is out of rang of 2N2222 800mw
so there fore i asked  this question

 

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shahzad-h said:
in his design he told that datasheet of 2N3904 gives HFE =70 at ICQ=1ma but we are using HFE= 230 at ICQ=1ma.
The hFE of a 2N3904 at 1.0Ma collector current is a minimum of 70, the text doesn't have a typical hFE but a graph shows a typical hFE of 230.

he takes VCEQ=0.5VCC as i did so power dissipation by 2N3904 will Pd=ICQ*VCEQ=5mw will be within its maximum rating
With VceQ of only 0.5V then the transistor can't do anything useful. Its power dissipation is only 0.5mW (not 5mW) if you need it to operate at such a low power.

if we apply the same rule to 2N2222 transistor it datasheet gives this values Ic=150ma,VEC=10v,HFE=100min HFE=max so if we take  this Ic as ICQ and VCE as VCEQ than  1.5W  it is out of rang of 2N2222 800mw
The power dissipation rating of a transistor is its continuous max rating. A 2N2222 has a max power dissipation rating of 500mW (not 800mW) when it doesn't have a heatsink and the ambient is not warmer than 25 degrees C.
The datasheet shows that hFE measurements are made with very short duration pulses so that the transistor doesn't heat too much which would change its hFE and so it doesn't melt.
You can pulse a transistor briefly with a high voltage and current, if the average power dissipation is within its ratings.
 

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HI audioguru

With VceQ of only 0.5V then the transistor can't do anything useful. Its power dissipation is only 0.5mW (not 5mW) if you need it to operate at such a low power.

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Reduce the effect of Miller capacitance by operating a transistor in a high frequency circuit with a low-value collector resistor and input impedance. These are accomplished with operating at a fairly high current.

 

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Hi audioguru
We have two formulas
1=Cin(miller)=Cbc(Av(mid)+1)
2=Cout(miller)=Cbc((Av+1)/Av)
Can i use these formulas in high frequency
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I don't remember because I studied that stuff about 42 years ago. I have designed only two RF circuits in my life.
Look in Google or ask your teacher.

 
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