Electronic Design - Project Management

[Le Chaud Lapin]

Schoolboy psychology twaddle snipped.

Right-brained ignorant fool twaddle snipped.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

 

[Ian Bell]

Right-brained ignorant fool twaddle snipped.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Right brained - probably
Ignorant - definitely not
Fool - sometimes

Despite that I managed to function successfully in industry alongside sales
and marketing people and develop highly successful products. How have you
managed to overcome your limitations or is bleating all you do?

Ian

 

[Le Chaud Lapin]

Right brained - probably
Ignorant - definitely not
Fool - sometimes

Despite that I managed to function successfully in industry alongside sales
and marketing people and develop highly successful products. How have you
managed to overcome your limitations or is bleating all you do?

Ian

It depends on what you mean by "successfully."

Any venture could be called a "success". I've worked for a dot-startup
that lost nearly $100 million in 11 months on $180 million IPO before
dumping their flagship product completely (it was stupid idea, and they
did not listen to the engineers). There are people who got laid off
after massive losses STILL call it a success, six years later.
Ironically, this time it was the top marketing executive who had her
head on straight, while the top sales person did not have a clue.
[Come to think of it, she is probably the best marketing person I have
ever met.]

In any case, if you mean playing the game, yes, I know how to do that.
Back in the winter of 1996, I remember looking down from 29th Floor of
a company that has over $1 trillion in assets at a chauffeur who was
dressed in black trench coat and hat, standing in a foot of snow
outside his limo, waiting for me in my girlfriend, who worked not far
from my cubicle, with mine and her uncommonly-difficult last name
spelled correctly on a little white sign that he held up high.
Relatively large dual incomes, no children, occasional flights to
Europe for fun, but no vehicle, as it was unnecessary. My boss
happened to be a friend and fellow alum.

I gave that up to move to Texas to start a consulting company, and my
clients would invite me to their parties just to hear me crack on
people like you. (just kidding).

I know how to play the game. But self-preservation is *not* a
definition of "success", at least not for me. And job security? It's
not something to worry about, not in this part of the world.

I regard success as creating something that the customer actually wants
and pays for and keeps paying for because they like it, not because it
comes with fancy mints and and incredibly attractive salesperson.

Companies like Qualcomm, Broadcomm, Google...these are successful
companies. You know because they put it tactfully on their recruitment
pages - "Please Note: We are a company that strives to keep bullsh*t to
an absolute minimum."

-Le Chaud Lapin-

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Back in the winter of 1996, I remember looking down from 29th Floor of
a company that has over $1 trillion in assets at a chauffeur who was
dressed in black trench coat and hat, standing in a foot of snow
outside his limo, waiting for me in my girlfriend,

"Waiting for you in your girlfreind"?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Le Chaud Lapin]

"Waiting for you in your girlfreind"?

Freakian Slip?

For some strange reason, my "writing" has become extremely sloppy over
the past couple of years. There/their, omitted words, duplicate words,
it's horrible. Going to start writing hand-written letters again to
see if that helps.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Freakian Slip?

For some strange reason, my "writing" has become extremely sloppy over
the past couple of years. There/their, omitted words, duplicate words,
it's horrible. Going to start writing hand-written letters again to
see if that helps.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

I find that taking a minute or so to re-read what you've typed helps
catch a lot of mistakes.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Jens Tingleff]

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The "them and us" attitude starts when we are 5 years old and continues
for a lifetime. And it is not the engineers' fault. There is a
pathology that underlies the the social dynamics of technology-oriented
corporations.

WARNING: Long Elitist Rant Follows. If your I.Q. is under 88, stop
reading.

[...............]

Snipped simplistic twaddle, not-so-artfully-targeted at engineers to make
the poster feel good about himself.

Yawn.

<joke>

Have you considered a career in marketing?

</joke>

Best Regards

Jens


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[Ian Bell]

It depends on what you mean by "successfully."

diatribe snipped

I regard success as creating something that the customer actually wants
and pays for and keeps paying for because they like it, not because it
comes with fancy mints and and incredibly attractive salesperson.

I agree completely. And as I said earlier, that only happens when sales,
marketing,development and manufacture work together as a TEAM.

Ian

 

[Le Chaud Lapin]

<joke>

Have you considered a career in marketing?

</joke>

<news alert>

Your jokes are not funny.

</news alert>

-Le Chaud Lapin-

 

[YD]

Which, surprisingly enough, I never use. I was a swimmer all through
grade and high school, and I suspect that all that chlorine killed all
the smelly bugs off me. Later, in college (no pool :-( ) a friend
showed me that a swab with a cotton ball soaked in alcohol did just as
good a job as those expensive, smelly deodorants, and I never looked
back. Now, I hate the darn stuff. My nose is too sensitive, and often
when I get into crowded situations, like church or shopping, the smells
just about kill me! I would much prefer the smell of a little honest
sweat than the gallons of eau de cologne everyone seems to need...

Charlie

Colognes and those cheap room odorizers are absolutely deadly for me.
Allergic nose, any strong scent, pollen and some stuff I haven't
identified make the nostrils swell up on the inside and then get all
runny. Then the breathing through the mouth dries out the throat and I
have coughing fits.

- YD.

 

[Jens Tingleff]

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<news alert>

Your jokes are not funny.

</news alert>

Oh, I shouldn't think I could be funny the way you are...

Best Regards

Jens


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[Le Chaud Lapin]

Jens Tingleff wrote:

Where does Tingleff come from? Nederlands?

Just curious.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

 

[Jim Thompson]

Jens Tingleff wrote:

Where does Tingleff come from? Nederlands?

Just curious.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

I'm pretty sure that Jens is a Dane.

...Jim Thompson

 

[Jens Tingleff]

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Jens Tingleff wrote:

Where does Tingleff come from? Nederlands?

Well, it seems my attempts at self-publicising have been pathetically
useless.

Good

Just curious.

Now you're being modest!

Best Regards

Jens


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