New forum needs moderators

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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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You seem to hate Google Martin, may I ask why? lol
Ah,I'm just a miserable old git... but loads of people **really** hate
the way Google hijacked the Usenet via dejanews, and called it Google
Groups


martin
 
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Adelec Bakkal

Jan 1, 1970
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And what advice can you give me about the forum I am willing to run?
 
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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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And what advice can you give me about the forum I am willing to run?

Porn, much more money, not as much fun though


martin
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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I have posted the same thing in another forum, and they talked about
trying to have them do the work for me and make me some bucks with
Google Ads while the forum don't even host ads lol. All we wanted is to
have people posting in it, that's all.

There's nothing to make fun of.

But no, seriously, strangers fairly commonly post to this and similar
newsgroups, trying to syphon off our players for their self-controlled
private forums. We're seldom sympathetic, and they're seldom
successful.

Guy railed at us for months about our improper behavior, then went off
in a huff and started his own Guy-Macon-moderated newsgroup. He tried
hijacking our posts for a while, using stupid header tricks, but got
no traffic. He's running about a post a month lately, usually from
himself.

Oh, the ultra-blue color scheme is ghastly.

John
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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Ah,I'm just a miserable old git... but loads of people **really** hate
the way Google hijacked the Usenet via dejanews, and called it Google
Groups


martin

So use the search engine, which is great, and Earth, which is
fabulous, and ignore their dreadful groups interface.

Their news thing (news, not newsgroup) is pretty good. For the cost of
a cookie, you can have a custom news page that includes, say, science
and semiconductor sections.

Their maps are good, too.

John
 
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Michael Black

Jan 1, 1970
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Adelec Bakkal" ([email protected]) said:
I have posted the same thing in another forum, and they talked about
trying to have them do the work for me and make me some bucks with
Google Ads while the forum don't even host ads lol. All we wanted is to
have people posting in it, that's all.

There's nothing to make fun of.

But, you are posting to an existing newsgroup that is quite active, trying
to lure people to your "forum". What's missing is why anyone should leave
here to go somewhere else. If they are happy here, they'd have little
interest, and if they aren't happy here, they aren't likely to see your
message.

YOu thought that simply posting about your forum should bring people, but
you've not done one bit of convicing why anyone should go over there.

There is a structure for creating newsgroups, and it's there to ensure
that when one is created, there is an actual need. Too often, people think
if they create something that will draw people, and the result is so many
forums and "google groups" that have one or two members and one or two
messages and nothing happens. You haven't even told us why you created
this forum of yours, which suggests the only reason is because you could.
Now you've come begging because you need people to post to your forum and
to read it. You've thus proved that a space isn't what creates discussion
and content, it is the people. And yet another forum means nothing since
the people are missing from the equation.

Micahel
 
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JeffM

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Hello Adelec,

I mean, let's be objective. All we wanted is people to post in it and
make suggestions to improve it. I'm sick of having to convert
schematics to ASCII then post, maybe we could have some help regarding
this (hopefully) . ...


That's what web sites and binary newsgroups are for. For people who do
not have their own web site there are plenty of sites where schematics
and photos can be posted, often for free.

Text-based information exchange like what we do here is the way to go.
Just my humble opinion, and I bet that of many others. IMHO there is no
need for yet another forum, certainly not web-interface based. But here
is an idea for you:

What would be really useful is a bulletin board that links to newsgroups
like this and where people can paste graphics, edit with a simple
program such as MS-Paint and then re-post. For example to draw in some
extra parts and correct mistakes in someone's schematic, just like on a
white board. If you have to defray web site costs you could run ads (but
don't go to excesses with these or people will run away). But forget
registering, passwords and all that red tape, that's a big turn-off for
people.

Regards, Joerg
 
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John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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I mean, let's be objective.

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What you mean is that you want people to see things your way.
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All we wanted is people to post in it and
make suggestions to improve it.

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Why? Usenet works, the electronics groups are populated by
interesting, intelligent people, so who needs your board?
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--- I'm sick of having to convert
schematics to ASCII then post, maybe we could have some help regarding
this (hopefully) .

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What, after a total of _one_ technical post, ever, and no ASCII
drawings in that one, you're bitching about being sick of having to
convert something to ASCII?

If you'd get off your lazy ass and do some looking around you might
find that you can post schematics as binaries to
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic. Even so, that wouldn't do you
any good because Google doesn't archive binaries. The solution?

Get yourself a real Usenet provider.
 
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John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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And what advice can you give me about the forum I am willing to run?

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_Willing_ to run?

It sounds like you want it to seem like you're doing the world a
favor by running the forum.

My advice would be to get over yourself.
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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But, you are posting to an existing newsgroup that is quite active, trying
to lure people to your "forum". What's missing is why anyone should leave
here to go somewhere else. If they are happy here, they'd have little
interest, and if they aren't happy here, they aren't likely to see your
message.

It's like he just opened a restaurant that has nothing on the menu yet
but peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwiches and tater-tots, so he goes to
an established restaurant down the street, walks from table to table,
and hands out flyers for his place.

John
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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I mean, let's be objective. All we wanted is people to post in it and
make suggestions to improve it. I'm sick of having to convert
schematics to ASCII then post, maybe we could have some help regarding
this (hopefully) . The forum is newly set (yesterday) , so we haven't
got members, but if you stick to usenet or something else nobody forces
you to leave or to make fun lol

There are many things that we could do, instead of having fun of people.

If you bothered to get a real newsreader, and your ISP supports binaries
groups, you could post real schematic graphics (typically .gif) to
. There are also a couple of
programs out there that can help you draw ASCIImatics.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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You seem to hate Google Martin, may I ask why? lol

Probably because he's sane. Google encourages newbies to post stuff with
no context, and to top-post, both of which are wrong.

USENET is somewhat like a BBS, but when using a real newsreader, accessing
a real newsserver, it's a PITA to search through message headers to find
out what you googlegroupies are talking about.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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Fred Bloggs

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
It's like he just opened a restaurant that has nothing on the menu yet
but peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwiches and tater-tots, so he goes to
an established restaurant down the street, walks from table to table,
and hands out flyers for his place.

John

Nah- it's more like he/she typifies the parasitic leach narcisissy type
who usually won't bother with any acknowledgment of a helpful answer to
his/her question- but is willing to turn into a 500-word-per-post smart
ass punk sh_t when someone criticizes them off their high horse. If
he/she wants answers, he/she can go to knock-on-door and pay for it.
 
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Genome

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich Grise said:
On Fri, 19 May 2006 18:23:39 -0700, Adelec Bakkal wrote:

USENET is somewhat like a BBS

Good Luck!
Rich

Note to young folks.

BBS is Bulletin Board System where you whistle down the phone then listen to
the other person whistling at the other end and then you whistle at your
computer.

Text appears on the screen in green.

Of course, if you have one of those fancy new monitors you can use the
rotary switch on the front to change to white or orange.

DNA
 
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JeffM

Jan 1, 1970
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You seem to hate Google Martin, may I ask why?
Google encourages newbies to post stuff with no context,
and to top-post, both of which are wrong.
Rich Grise

Why do i feel that those same people
(depending on the newsreader chosen)
would still top-post or post without context?
I see lots of folks who can't emulate the paradigm they observe
--the majority of which DON'T post from Google.
Stupid is stupid.

Google DID break the blockquoting thing
which they once had implemented properly.

Instead of wasting screen space on their latest attempt to break things
while adding the stupid *Rating* graphics,
they should have included (on every page) a link to this:
"The Do's and Don'ts of Posting on Google Groups"
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12348
 
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