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Julian Edgar

Jan 1, 1970
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After 14 years of continuously contributing articles to Silicon Chip
magazine, I have resigned from any association with Leo Simpson or
Silicon Chip Publications.

This resignation is based on financial, journalistic and ethical
reasons.

My articles will probably continue to appear in Silicon Chip for a few
more issues as old material is used up but I will not be doing any
further writing for that publication.

I thank those readers who have enjoyed my work.

Julian Edgar
 
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Trevor Wilson

Jan 1, 1970
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Julian Edgar said:
After 14 years of continuously contributing articles to Silicon Chip
magazine, I have resigned from any association with Leo Simpson or
Silicon Chip Publications.

This resignation is based on financial, journalistic and ethical
reasons.

My articles will probably continue to appear in Silicon Chip for a few
more issues as old material is used up but I will not be doing any
further writing for that publication.

I thank those readers who have enjoyed my work.

**Colour me disappointed. Your work has been immensely educational (for me).
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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Julian said:
After 14 years of continuously contributing articles to Silicon Chip
magazine, I have resigned from any association with Leo Simpson or
Silicon Chip Publications.

This resignation is based on financial, journalistic and ethical
reasons.

My articles will probably continue to appear in Silicon Chip for a few
more issues as old material is used up but I will not be doing any
further writing for that publication.

I thank those readers who have enjoyed my work.

Julian Edgar

Thanks for letting us know Julian, sorry to hear your association has
ended.
You have made an excellent contribution over the years, and I'm sure
many readers that don't lurk here would like to express their thanks as
well.
Thanks, and best of luck for your future endevours.

Regards
Dave :)
 
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L.A.T.

Jan 1, 1970
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Julian Edgar said:
After 14 years of continuously contributing articles to Silicon Chip
magazine, I have resigned from any association with Leo Simpson or
Silicon Chip Publications.
Sorry to hear it.
Best wishes.
 
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Ross Herbert

Jan 1, 1970
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After 14 years of continuously contributing articles to Silicon Chip
magazine, I have resigned from any association with Leo Simpson or
Silicon Chip Publications.

This resignation is based on financial, journalistic and ethical
reasons.

My articles will probably continue to appear in Silicon Chip for a few
more issues as old material is used up but I will not be doing any
further writing for that publication.

I thank those readers who have enjoyed my work.

Julian Edgar


Sorry to hear that Julian, I always read your articles and projects
with interest. Will we still have access to your articles via Everyday
Practical Electronics, or were reprints of SC articles in that mag out
of your control?

Ross H
 
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Julian Edgar

Jan 1, 1970
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Ross said:
Sorry to hear that Julian, I always read your articles and projects
with interest. Will we still have access to your articles via Everyday
Practical Electronics, or were reprints of SC articles in that mag out
of your control?

Ross H

My articles were reprinted in Everyday Practical Electronics, were
they? First thing I have heard of that...

When they republished or re-sold material, magazine publishers I have
previously worked for notified contributors of the extra sales and paid
a fee (normally half of the original) for the re-use.

But not Leo...

Julian Edgar
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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Julian said:
My articles were reprinted in Everyday Practical Electronics, were
they? First thing I have heard of that...

When they republished or re-sold material, magazine publishers I have
previously worked for notified contributors of the extra sales and paid
a fee (normally half of the original) for the re-use.

But not Leo...

Julian Edgar

I've had some of my EA articles "republished" in other publications.
One was in a Hong Kong magazine but I got no payment for it, nor told
about it, but at least they kept my name on the article :-/
Someone emailed me and told me of another one too, but I don't have a
copy of it nor remember the mag.
Another one was in (I think) Test Gear Vol.3, again I wasn't told about
that one either, but a cheque did duly arrive in the mail, maybe
because it was an actual EA publication?

Dave :)
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"Julian Edgar"

My articles were reprinted in Everyday Practical Electronics, were
they? First thing I have heard of that...

When they republished or re-sold material, magazine publishers I have
previously worked for notified contributors of the extra sales and paid
a fee (normally half of the original) for the re-use.

But not Leo...


** Normally, articles contributed to SC, EA or ETI are (or were ) on
the basis of the author granting an implied " copyright license " to the
magazine. Authors still hold their original copyright ownership.

This meant the magazine could publish the material in their usual way - ie
initially in the magazine itself and possibly again later in another
publication produced by the same magazine like a compilation book of
projects.

However, since the magazine does not hold copyright ownership, they cannot
supply the material to another publisher.

Other magazines may operate in a different way, where the author signs an
agreement that assigns copyright ownership to the magazine. This allows the
magazine to trade in the material as they wish.

One thing a publisher must not do is to omit the author's name or attribute
the material to another.


True story:

On one occasion, I contributed an item for the "Circuit & Design Ideas "
pages of EA magazine and received their standard acknowledgement letter and
that it would be considered for such use in due course.

The item then appeared in the magazine's " Information Centre " pages ( run
by Peter Phillips) about two months later.

Now, authors of items in the CDI pages were paid a fee and could even win a
nice prize - but no fee applied to material published the "Information
Centre" pages.

Took quite a bit of haggling by phone and letter to get Jim Rowe to agree
that accepting the item for the CDI pages meant he owed me a fee for
publishing it.




........ Phil
 
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Julian Edgar

Jan 1, 1970
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Phil said:
"Julian Edgar"




** Normally, articles contributed to SC, EA or ETI are (or were ) on
the basis of the author granting an implied " copyright license " to the
magazine. Authors still hold their original copyright ownership.

This meant the magazine could publish the material in their usual way - ie
initially in the magazine itself and possibly again later in another
publication produced by the same magazine like a compilation book of
projects.

However, since the magazine does not hold copyright ownership, they cannot
supply the material to another publisher.

Other magazines may operate in a different way, where the author signs an
agreement that assigns copyright ownership to the magazine. This allows the
magazine to trade in the material as they wish.

One thing a publisher must not do is to omit the author's name or attribute
the material to another.


True story:

On one occasion, I contributed an item for the "Circuit & Design Ideas "
pages of EA magazine and received their standard acknowledgement letter and
that it would be considered for such use in due course.

The item then appeared in the magazine's " Information Centre " pages ( run
by Peter Phillips) about two months later.

Now, authors of items in the CDI pages were paid a fee and could even win a
nice prize - but no fee applied to material published the "Information
Centre" pages.

Took quite a bit of haggling by phone and letter to get Jim Rowe to agree
that accepting the item for the CDI pages meant he owed me a fee for
publishing it.




....... Phil

I have signed no copyright dispensation allowing the resale of my work
to other magazines.

Julian Edgar
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"Julian Edgar"

I have signed no copyright dispensation allowing the resale of my work
to other magazines.



** Have you signed any kind of agreement ?

You speaking only about local or foreign magazines ?




........ Phil
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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Peter said:
Your Quick Brake is mentioned here: http://www.epemag.com/magindex.html

Wow, I lost count at around 2 dozen SC projects in the last 10 months
or so!
All the familiar names are there, Leo Simpson, Jim Rowe, Peter Smith,
John Clark...

Julian's (sole attributed) "Human-powered LED Torches" is there.

Dave :)
 
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Ross Herbert

Jan 1, 1970
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My articles were reprinted in Everyday Practical Electronics, were
they? First thing I have heard of that...

When they republished or re-sold material, magazine publishers I have
previously worked for notified contributors of the extra sales and paid
a fee (normally half of the original) for the re-use.

But not Leo...

Julian Edgar

Yep, they are - eg. Quick Brake in EPE Nov 2006 and Human Powered LED
Torches in Sept 2006 just to name a couple - along with articles by
John Clarke and Peter Smith.

http://www.epemag.com/magindex.html
 
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John de Stigter

Jan 1, 1970
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Julian Edgar said:
After 14 years of continuously contributing articles to Silicon Chip
magazine, I have resigned from any association with Leo Simpson or
Silicon Chip Publications.

This resignation is based on financial, journalistic and ethical
reasons.

My articles will probably continue to appear in Silicon Chip for a few
more issues as old material is used up but I will not be doing any
further writing for that publication.

I thank those readers who have enjoyed my work.

Julian Edgar


Buying Silicon Chip mag certainly won't seem such a bargain without your
"Salvage It" column.
Always enjoyed your contributions, they got me hacking more rather than just
building from scratch.

Regards,
John.
 
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Julian Edgar

Jan 1, 1970
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Geoff said:
Care to eloborate on the 'ethical' thing ?

geoff

Leo Simpson's ethics on the concept of intellectual property, or
ownership of ideas, varies considerably from mine. This is not to
suggest that his are inferior to mine; just that there is sufficient
difference to prompt my resignation.

You need to be aware that I was never employed by Silicon Chip
Publications as a staff member, instead my work was all freelance.
IOTW, I got paid by the article, or on the basis of the number of
articles produced. Doing the writing and photography for an article is
pretty easy for me (I've been doing it a long time) so it's the IDEA
for the article which is most valuable to me.

I remember suggesting (in writing) the project idea for an air sniffer
that would automatically switch a car's recirc button when the outside
air was polluted (a feature that can be found on some current cars).
Nothing came of the idea, until a few years later when that project was
produced by Silicon Chip with no reference to me! I brought this to the
attention of Leo Simpson who was admanant I'd had nothing to do with it
- he'd thought it up himself. Now that may have been his genuine
belief, but the idea was mine - and I received nothing for it. The easy
way of meeting both needs would have had me write/photograph the
article, working with designer John Clarke.

Since I was paid $20,000 per annum (yep, less than the lowest paid
cleaner!) to produce more content than (AFAIK) any other contributor, I
was less than impressed at losing that opportunity. To put it another
way, I now had to come up with a new, workable and attractive idea to
replace that one.

The project concepts that I came up with prior to resignation are to be
continued by the magazine. Leo refuses (in writing) to recognise any
intellectual property rights to those ideas, and consequently will pay
me nothing for them. However, those ideas were contributed only on the
basis that I would write the articles and so be paid!

So when you see an automotive air conditioner controller (turns off the
air con compressor at high throttle angles and turns it on on decel -
and there's alot more logic to it than that) and a programmable
ignition system that uses a GM-based MAP sensor to measure load with
ignition timing set on maps of load versus rpm; you'll be seeing stuff
based either in part or totally on my unpaid for ideas.

The same ethical ideas ownership disagreement can be seee in above
posts where it's been pointed out that my stuff has been on-sold to
another magazine - something which has occurred without my permission
or payment to me.

However, my resignation was prompted by Leo Simpson suggesting that a
huge editorial proposal I had detailed to him (for a whole new
magazine, no less) looked interesting and could perhaps be produced by
the company - but possibly without my involvement! I was so
flabbergasted I even got him to repeat this statement, which (with a
witness present at my end of the phone), he happily did. Perhaps just
after I said 'get fucked' and hung up he was going to tell me how I was
to be paid for the ideas.

Julian Edgar
 
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Alan Rutlidge

Jan 1, 1970
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Julian Edgar said:
Leo Simpson's ethics on the concept of intellectual property, or
ownership of ideas, varies considerably from mine. This is not to
suggest that his are inferior to mine; just that there is sufficient
difference to prompt my resignation.

You need to be aware that I was never employed by Silicon Chip
Publications as a staff member, instead my work was all freelance.
IOTW, I got paid by the article, or on the basis of the number of
articles produced. Doing the writing and photography for an article is
pretty easy for me (I've been doing it a long time) so it's the IDEA
for the article which is most valuable to me.

I remember suggesting (in writing) the project idea for an air sniffer
that would automatically switch a car's recirc button when the outside
air was polluted (a feature that can be found on some current cars).
Nothing came of the idea, until a few years later when that project was
produced by Silicon Chip with no reference to me! I brought this to the
attention of Leo Simpson who was admanant I'd had nothing to do with it
- he'd thought it up himself. Now that may have been his genuine
belief, but the idea was mine - and I received nothing for it. The easy
way of meeting both needs would have had me write/photograph the
article, working with designer John Clarke.

Since I was paid $20,000 per annum (yep, less than the lowest paid
cleaner!) to produce more content than (AFAIK) any other contributor, I
was less than impressed at losing that opportunity. To put it another
way, I now had to come up with a new, workable and attractive idea to
replace that one.

The project concepts that I came up with prior to resignation are to be
continued by the magazine. Leo refuses (in writing) to recognise any
intellectual property rights to those ideas, and consequently will pay
me nothing for them. However, those ideas were contributed only on the
basis that I would write the articles and so be paid!

So when you see an automotive air conditioner controller (turns off the
air con compressor at high throttle angles and turns it on on decel -
and there's alot more logic to it than that) and a programmable
ignition system that uses a GM-based MAP sensor to measure load with
ignition timing set on maps of load versus rpm; you'll be seeing stuff
based either in part or totally on my unpaid for ideas.

The same ethical ideas ownership disagreement can be seee in above
posts where it's been pointed out that my stuff has been on-sold to
another magazine - something which has occurred without my permission
or payment to me.

However, my resignation was prompted by Leo Simpson suggesting that a
huge editorial proposal I had detailed to him (for a whole new
magazine, no less) looked interesting and could perhaps be produced by
the company - but possibly without my involvement! I was so
flabbergasted I even got him to repeat this statement, which (with a
witness present at my end of the phone), he happily did. Perhaps just
after I said 'get fucked' and hung up he was going to tell me how I was
to be paid for the ideas.

Julian Edgar

Julian,

It saddens me to read you have been treated so unfairly. Regrettably, it
would appear that company loyalty (in some circles) counts for nothing these
days, as does your rights to intellectual property. :-( I'm glad you
mentioned a number of projects in the pipe that you had initial suggestion
or involvement with. I will keep an eye out for them, albeit in view of the
poor treatment and apparent disrespect shown by SC towards you I'm reluctant
to purchase future issues of the magazine on principle alone.

Obviously there are two sides to this story. Perhaps Leo may care to add
his perspective? In any event I have no doubt a man of your talent and
ability will go onto bigger and better things and reflect back on this as a
learning experience. Good luck.

Cheers,
Alan
 
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Julian Edgar

Jan 1, 1970
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Julian,

It saddens me to read you have been treated so unfairly. Regrettably, it
would appear that company loyalty (in some circles) counts for nothing these
days, as does your rights to intellectual property. :-( I'm glad you
mentioned a number of projects in the pipe that you had initial suggestion
or involvement with. I will keep an eye out for them, albeit in view of the
poor treatment and apparent disrespect shown by SC towards you I'm reluctant
to purchase future issues of the magazine on principle alone.

Obviously there are two sides to this story. Perhaps Leo may care to add
his perspective? In any event I have no doubt a man of your talent and
ability will go onto bigger and better things and reflect back on this as a
learning experience. Good luck.

Cheers,
Alan

Leo expose himself to the rough-house of usenet? I sure don't think so.
He
wouldn't even run a Letter to the Editor from me critical of his
editorial - that astonishing piece of writing to be found at
http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_107649/article.html

As an exercise, count how many points he makes for which there is no
evidence presented, or cited, or alluded to...

(And that leads me to one of the journalistic reasons for my
resignation!)

Julian Edgar
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"Julian Edgar"

(snip)
However, my resignation was prompted by Leo Simpson suggesting that a
huge editorial proposal I had detailed to him (for a whole new
magazine, no less) looked interesting and could perhaps be produced by
the company - but possibly without my involvement! I was so
flabbergasted I even got him to repeat this statement, which (with a
witness present at my end of the phone), he happily did. Perhaps just
after I said 'get fucked' and hung up he was going to tell me how I was
to be paid for the ideas.



** Be very careful what you post here - Julian.

Or, you might just get a RED HOT phone call from Greg Swain one morning
followed up by a letter from Leo Simpson's lawyer ( Lynden E. Hooper and
Co ) like I did, in September of 2002.

Or maybe you already know that.




........ Phil
 
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Ross Herbert

Jan 1, 1970
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[snipped]
Julian,

It saddens me to read you have been treated so unfairly. Regrettably, it
would appear that company loyalty (in some circles) counts for nothing these
days, as does your rights to intellectual property. :-( I'm glad you
mentioned a number of projects in the pipe that you had initial suggestion
or involvement with. I will keep an eye out for them, albeit in view of the
poor treatment and apparent disrespect shown by SC towards you I'm reluctant
to purchase future issues of the magazine on principle alone.

Obviously there are two sides to this story. Perhaps Leo may care to add
his perspective? In any event I have no doubt a man of your talent and
ability will go onto bigger and better things and reflect back on this as a
learning experience. Good luck.

Cheers,
Alan

Leo expose himself to the rough-house of usenet? I sure don't think so.
He
wouldn't even run a Letter to the Editor from me critical of his
editorial - that astonishing piece of writing to be found at
http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_107649/article.html

As an exercise, count how many points he makes for which there is no
evidence presented, or cited, or alluded to...

(And that leads me to one of the journalistic reasons for my
resignation!)

Julian Edgar

I didn't read that particular editorial at the time but I'm glad you
pointed it out to us. It sounds a bit like a rant one might expect
from contributors to the H.R. Nicholls Society articles.
http://www.hrnicholls.com.au/
 
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Julian Edgar

Jan 1, 1970
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Phil said:
"Julian Edgar"

(snip)




** Be very careful what you post here - Julian.

Or, you might just get a RED HOT phone call from Greg Swain one morning
followed up by a letter from Leo Simpson's lawyer ( Lynden E. Hooper and
Co ) like I did, in September of 2002.

Or maybe you already know that.




....... Phil

Thanks Phil, but every point I have made here is either supported by
written evidence (eg "we recognise none of your claims to intellectual
property rights"); earwitness accounts (eg "So Leo you're saying you
might go ahead with the new magazine but without my involvement?"
"That's right!") and so on.

Julian Edgar
 
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