Specification of current reading on multimeter

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nicola

Jan 1, 1970
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On Sat 03 Jan 20:54, Archimedes' Lever
Usually not True. Handheld meters current circuit usually uses
a single shunt. That is the cheap ones. It won't matter what
range he uses.

The more expensive, better made meters usually use two, and in
that case a different range will place a different value shunt
in the circuit.

I can't help thinking that he hooked it up wrong, because there
is nothing about such a small resistance that should stop the
charger's circuitry from sensing a battery in need of charge in
place.

That is more likely. If it even has one. Again, the cheaper
meters do not, and the better ones do .


Current metering that incorporates a fuse does so IN series with
the shunt, and it is the shunt, and other meter circuitry,
including the probe leads that the fuse 'protects' from
over-current conditions.

I can still remember a co-student back in '76, placing a meter
on the AC line with it set to current. It fried the Heathkit
totally. It was only $36, but back then that was a lot for a
student. Now, the fuse, which is nearly always incorporated in
all but the cheapest meters, would open, protecting the meter
guts.

Still, either shunt resistor should still be low enough in value
to have no effect on the charger's sense circuitry. I am
leaning toward there being a blown fuse. On the lowest setting,
and ammeter can even pick up "current" from local induction, so
even with the fuse blown, he *may* see some numbers flickering
across the display.


I will try again to get a reading and see if I did not do it
correctly the first time.
 
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nicola

Jan 1, 1970
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On Sat 03 Jan 14:16 said:
It is the volt drop across the meter at "full scale deflection".

If you measure 2mA on the 2mA range it will cause a 200mV drop.
If you measure 2mA on the 20mA range it will cause 20mV drop.

Oh! Now that isn't what I was expecting.

I read what others have posted about the meter being based arounf
a voltmeter which reads 200 mV at full scale.

I had inferred that the full scale deflection reading was
dependent on the range chosen.

So, for example, the full scale reading on a 20 mA range would be
20 mA. (On the 2mA range it would be 2 mA.) And I then had the
impression that when reading almost 20 mA on the 20 mA range, I
would get the 200 mV drop mentioned in the specs.

Is that understanding wrong?

nikk
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Most of the supposed "C" rechargeables are nothing but an AA cell in a
plastic sleeve to bulk it out to C dimensions.

No, dope. Those are the 'batteries' from the beginning of the nmih
realm.

Now, they are full density cells.
Ever wonder why they are so light?

Maybe they are trying to match the weight of your brain.

So, NO, they are NOT 'supposed C cells', They are REAL C cells.
 
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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't think Mr. Lever understands very much about batteries or their
recharging.

There's an old adage -- "An empty vessel makes the biggest noise."
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't think Mr. Lever understands very much about batteries or their
recharging.

There's an old adage -- "An empty vessel makes the biggest noise."
Must be why Billy responded. He likes to make noises.

Sorry, chump but it is you that doesn't understand much.

I notice that you snipped all the post that you are now claiming to
refute. It would be interesting if you actually had enough brains to put
together a proper refutation. Alas, you are not much better than Roy.

Yep... yer a geezer, and no, you are not in touch with reality.

Grizzled? No. More like frazzle brained.

So, Somejerk, you can **** off.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't think Mr. Lever understands very much about batteries or their
recharging.

That's nothing new. DimBulb has a long history of demonstating zero
knowledge of everything. There is a long history behind his nickname,
"Always Wrong".
There's an old adage -- "An empty vessel makes the biggest noise."

DimBulb's head is *vacuum* empty.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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No - it is correct.

The meter has a voltage drop of 200 mV at full scale - internally, it
is a 200 mV full scale meter.

If you measure a current of 2 mA on the 2 mA scale, the meter will
have a 200 mV voltage drop.

If you switch to the 20 mA scale, that 2 mA current will result in a
20 mV drop.

If you switch to the 200 mA scale, the 2 mA current will result in a 2
mV drop.

For any scale and current, the meter's voltage drop is:
(current/full_scale) * 200 mV


Jeez dude. You can get a cheap $12 meter that has a much higher
internal resistance at Harbor Freight or your local auto parts store.

Just get a better meter for the task.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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That's nothing new. DimBulb has a long history of demonstating zero
knowledge of everything. There is a long history behind his nickname,
"Always Wrong".


DimBulb's head is *vacuum* empty.


Said the retarded **** that spent NO time actually reading the thread,
and zero time refuting anything from a technical POV.

You suffer the same problem as SomeJerck does. Zero capacity to refute
with facts. Good job, KeithKiethTard.
 
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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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Why do you think that insulting me is going to get me upset or do your
reputation any good?
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Archimedes' Lever said:
Bullcrap. I have both AAA, AA, and C size cells here, and the C size
cells have the same ampere hour rating that the AA batteries do. Guess
what that means to the charger, dingledorf?

Have you got NOTHING better in your life to do than aggravate people
needlessly ?

Playstation broken ?
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Said the retarded **** that spent NO time actually reading the thread,
and zero time refuting anything from a technical POV.

I've read the thread. You haven't fooled anyone here, DimBulb.
You suffer the same problem as SomeJerck does. Zero capacity to refute
with facts. Good job, KeithKiethTard.

I see no need to refute *everything* you say, even though it's always
wrong, AlwaysWrong . Others have done a good job here.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Have you got NOTHING better in your life to do than aggravate people
needlessly ?

Look, asswipe, first off, there is NO SPACE between the end of your
inane remarks and the punctuation for your inane remarks.

Secondly, everything I said is true. I have C cells here that are NOT
the fucking retarded type he refers to.

You? You can **** off.
Playstation broken ?
See above, dumbshit.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Why do you think that insulting me is going to get me upset or do your
reputation any good?
How can such an idiot actually think that he knows "what I think"?
 
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IanM

Jan 1, 1970
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Archimedes' Lever said:
Jeez dude. You can get a cheap $12 meter that has a much higher ^^^^^^
internal resistance at Harbor Freight or your local auto parts store.

Just get a better meter for the task.
^^^^^^
So Lever thinks higher resistance is better for measuring current!

ROTFLMAO

<plonk>
 
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Hattori Hanzo

Jan 1, 1970
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So Lever thinks higher resistance is better for measuring current!

ROTFLMAO


I was not referring to the shunt, you retarded twit.
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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The gutless POS anonymous ASSHOLE has a long criminal history.


Presuming that you are referring to me, since you addressed me at the
top of your tripe, what exactly are these crimes you claim I have
committed?

Just remember, cussing at retards in Usenet is not a criminal act,
dipshit.
 
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Jan 1, 1970
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Jan 1, 1970
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What's wrong, PhilTard? Don't like it when someone sides with someone
your retarded ass disagrees with?

TOO BAD.

Anything to say that has any modicum of intelligence?
 
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Jan 1, 1970
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