The Going Prices of Circuit Simulators

[Tom Bruhns]

(Ranting deleted...)

For a long time I've used Spice as available from
ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/spezial/spice3f4.zip. It's a traditional
netlist-driven simulator with post processor. Though I like LTSpice
too, there are things about the Berkeley post processor that let you do
some more complicated things that can be useful.

See http://www.duncanamps.com/spicesim.html for a list of various
available Spice simulators, including free ones.

My feeling is that silicon companies should make development tools for
things like FPGAs and microprocessors available free, to help sell the
silicon, but charge for support of the development tools. That is, if
you have questions, you pay; for training, you pay; but if you can use
the tools on your own, they're free, and the company makes their money
by selling more silicon. But not all the chip suppliers see it that
way.

And by the way, if you trust only to a simulator for your answers...you
will probably get what you deserve.

Cheers,
Tom

 

[daestrom]

"If we all just killfile


What Does the above phrase mean ???
How does one killfile anyone ???

Doesn't the old programming term KILL apply here which
I understand means the same as DELETE.

If so then I can assume if you killfile someone
you are threatening them with death ???

TSK...TSK...TSK...and I thought you
Internet blokes were smarter than that.

Back to the laws of the jungle ... but isn't that
the norm for a capitalistic country.

Let's see, first you admit you don't understand the term, then you make up
your own definition and assume the worst. Finally, you despise others for
suggesting such an action (one that you yourself made up for the
definition).

Don't you think you're being a bit harse on yourself for assuming the worst
in others?

To 'killfile' someone is to adjust your news-reader settings so that
messages from that person are not downloaded/shown in your news-reader.
When you decide that you no longer wish to be bothered trying to read
through the postings of someone (for whatever reason you decide), you can
'killfile' that poster so you aren't bothered with their messages. For
details of how to do it, look in your specific news-reader program's help
documents.

No threat of death or physical harm implied, one just decides one wants to
ignore someone. Some folks find it helpful rather than reading the target
poster's messages and then being tempted to reply to statements they
strongly disagree with.

Of course there are some folks (perhaps yourself), that post ludicrous
statements just to try and anger others into posting a reply. Such folks
often resort to extreme statements (such as "I can assume if you killfile
someone you are threatening them with death ") and make such sweeping
generalities (such as "but isn't that the norm for a capitalistic country.")
in an effort to incite a 'flame war'. Those folks fit one of the
definitions of 'usenet troll' and are often placed in people's 'killfile'.

<plonk>
(the above phrase '<plonk>' is used by many to indicate that they have
decided you have no useful content to provide to the discussion and have
thus placed your 'From' address into their news-reader's 'killfile')

daestrom

 

[Solar Flare]

There is medication for those mental anguish issue you have about
grammar... and grampar too y'all.

These are tech groups. Perhaps you need further study in English
comprehension?

 

[Solar Flare]

Two items:

Perhaps the phrase is really "kill file" and not one word as in
"killfile". According to some rules here this would invalidate the
whole usage and mean nothing??

<plonk> is also the sound some browsers make when killfiling a poster.

Have a good one ...LOL

 

[You]

"If we all just killfile


What Does the above phrase mean ???
How does one killfile anyone ???

Doesn't the old programming term KILL apply here which
I understand means the same as DELETE.

If so then I can assume if you killfile someone
you are threatening them with death ???

TSK...TSK...TSK...and I thought you
Internet blokes were smarter than that.

Back to the laws of the jungle ... but isn't that
the norm for a capitalistic country.

Sir, maybe you are just new to the Internet and NewsGroups, and that
accounts for your lack of "Buzzword" understanding. I would you suggest
that you go find a Jr. High School Kid to teach you, how to use the
your computer and what all the "Buzzwords" mean, before you do another
"Open Mouth, Insert Foot"......

 

[Me]

I bet you say that to all the posters...ohhh. you do.

Well, SolarFart, you haven't risen to the require threshold of "Stupid"
to warrent a killfile entry, yet, but feel free to keep trying...
Door #3 still has a wonderful prize behind it, and you are still in the
running.....

Me

 

[Solar Flare]

Please?

 

[Mike]

Max drivel snipped because I just can't justify the waste of bandwidth


Well the above rant just really proves that "The Flavored Coffee Guy" has
"more screws loose" than anyone ever expected. If we all just killfile
him he should just "Go Away"......

This is tame. Try this one, from one of his past adventures in this group:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci....uthor:flavored-coffee&rnum=5#d4c39d90fef42d9c

His web site is long since gone. That's too bad: it was a classic.

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

Send a copy

This is about as far off topic as a thread can get in this group.
(alt.energy.high-voltage)

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

Search for SPICE. They have a free student version ('PSpice'??). Although
a bit limited, it allows one to analyze AC R-L-C circuits and transformers
quite well. Work through the tutorial to figure out how to run the thing.
Also supports a limited number of semiconductors and such.

Not transformers with more than two windings. Feedback windings
coupled into the same core are typically pretty hard to model.

That would be a cool LTspice modeling module. Complex transformers.
Simple two winding, primary in, secondary out transformers are easy.

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

If you have the answer why post the nasty stuff? Sounds like he really
took a piece out of you and you want revenge more than peace.

Probably for the same reason that you are an ignorant top posting
Usenet retard.

You wouldn't know what the word "convention" meant if it bit you in
the ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

See ya loser!

Yer an idiot.

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

Odd

Yes, you are. Do you also wear tin foil hats?

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

There is medication for those mental anguish issue you have about
grammar... and grampar too y'all.

These are tech groups. Perhaps you need further study in English
comprehension?

Yes, they are tech groups, which means that most of the folks in them
know what the word convention means. The convention in Usenet is that
top posting is BAD. You utter fucking Usenet retard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

Please?

Oh my god... The idiot is from Cincinnati.

Dude, you do my home town a disservice with your utter stupidity.

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

What Does the above phrase mean ???
How does one killfile anyone ???

Doesn't the old programming term KILL apply here which
I understand means the same as DELETE.

If so then I can assume if you killfile someone
you are threatening them with death ???

TSK...TSK...TSK...and I thought you
Internet blokes were smarter than that.

Back to the laws of the jungle ... but isn't that
the norm for a capitalistic country.

Can you really be THAT utterly stupid about Usenet terminology?

Google is your friend, you retarded twit.

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

Two items:

Perhaps the phrase is really "kill file" and not one word as in
"killfile". According to some rules here this would invalidate the
whole usage and mean nothing??

<plonk> is also the sound some browsers make when killfiling a poster.

Have a good one ...LOL

It is also what generally happens to all top posting twits, such as
yourself.

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

And by the way, if you trust only to a simulator for your answers...you
will probably get what you deserve.

If one knows how to place all the elements of a circuit into one's
sim, one should get very precise, real world repeatable results. This
is made more evident when simulating high voltage circuits. It forces
one to remember that the circuit itself is not all there is, one must
also sim in ALL of the parasitic influences, etc. to obtain accurate
sims. Once you do that, you will see that they are a lot more
accurate than you seem to be giving them credit for.