Two Full System backups with Norton Ghost 2002, not readable/useable. Last File/Files unreadable.

[Skybuck Flying]

Hello,

Here is a report out of the trenches/practice.

In 2003 and 2004 I made Full System Backups with Norton Ghost 2002.

This happened in ms-dos mode.

The Norton Ghost software backup up a couple of gigabytes to little files of
1.46 MB onto (Lenco) cd-r's.

Now in the year 2008, the last few files on some cd's can't be read by a
BenQ dvd/cd drive.

These cd's look a little bit weird... They have a golden edge at the sides.

The outer side of the cd's probably get scratched really easily...

A tiny little light scratch is enough to make it unreadable. That's my
theory at least.

The disappointment is mostly with the ghost software itself.

It's completely unable to read any files what so ever.

It sucks big time.

Unless I can find some special switch to at least restore some files... I
will not be using Norton Ghost backup software ever again.

I might even write my own simple backup software in the future to know for
sure that it's better.

I just need a couple of little html files which were not stored in other
data backup's.

So I am quite disappointed at all this technology in general.

Waste my time, wasted my money, sucks.

I hope to learn from this.

I hope to backup my Dream PP 2008 in the future much better than I did my
previous computers

You've be warned people... also I am not the only one having "corruption"
problems. Google shows many people having these kinds of issue's which is
ownly logical... We need better technology that can survive multiple bit
errors... Like even a million bit errors should be possible...

Anyway... I still have some other backups... I have an even older backup
from 2002... But it probably does not contain the files I need.

I also have copies of these backup's in a data safe in another place...
However first I need to go there... and then unlock the safe and get it out
=D

I will try to that some days from now... maybe those cd's are better ?

It's interesting to find out if a big "data safe" provides any better
storage conditions

So: to be continued... ! =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[[email protected]]

Hello,

Here is a report out of the trenches/practice.

In 2003 and 2004 I made Full System Backups with Norton Ghost 2002.

This happened in ms-dos mode.

The Norton Ghost software backup up a couple of gigabytes to little filesof
1.46 MB onto (Lenco) cd-r's.

Now in the year 2008, the last few files on some cd's can't be read by a
BenQ dvd/cd drive.

These cd's look a little bit weird... They have a golden edge at the sides.

The outer side of the cd's probably get scratched really easily...

A tiny little light scratch is enough to make it unreadable. That's my
theory at least.

The disappointment is mostly with the ghost software itself.

It's completely unable to read any files what so ever.

It sucks big time.

Unless I can find some special switch to at least restore some files... I
will not be using Norton Ghost backup software ever again.

I might even write my own simple backup software in the future to know for
sure that it's better.

I just need a couple of little html files which were not stored in other
data backup's.

So I am quite disappointed at all this technology in general.

Waste my time, wasted my money, sucks.

I hope to learn from this.

I hope to backup my Dream PP 2008 in the future much better than I did my
previous computers

You've be warned people... also I am not the only one having "corruption"
problems. Google shows many people having these kinds of issue's which is
ownly logical... We need better technology that can survive multiple bit
errors... Like even a million bit errors should be possible...

Anyway... I still have some other backups... I have an even older backup
from 2002... But it probably does not contain the files I need.

I also have copies of these backup's in a data safe in another place...
However first I need to go there... and then unlock the safe and get it out
=D

I will try to that some days from now... maybe those cd's are better ?

It's interesting to find out if a big "data safe" provides any better
storage conditions

So: to be continued... ! =D

Bye,
  Skybuck.

CDr disks go bad over time, about 5 years and your files are rotten.
Sounds like you didn't know that going in or else you wouldn't have
even attempted such a thing.

Good news is that all is not lost just yet. You can us CD duplication
technology to create new versions of the supposed bad Ghost disks and
be very surprised to learn that the new ones will work just fine. I'm
not really sure how that works exactly, but it does - so quick - do it
before it really is too late.

And then don't ever use a CDr for long term data storage ever again.

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Well they (manufacturers) never warned me that it wasn't ment for
long-term-storage !

They (manufacturers) conveniently concealed this fact to sell more cd's !

Maybe somebody should start a nice big fat class action law suit and get
RICH ! =D

Philips and Sony companies come to mind ! =D YAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Rich companies... have lots of money !

Do us all a favor and go GET THOSE SON OF BITCHES ! =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

Hello,

Here is a report out of the trenches/practice.

In 2003 and 2004 I made Full System Backups with Norton Ghost 2002.

This happened in ms-dos mode.

The Norton Ghost software backup up a couple of gigabytes to little files
of
1.46 MB onto (Lenco) cd-r's.

Now in the year 2008, the last few files on some cd's can't be read by a
BenQ dvd/cd drive.

These cd's look a little bit weird... They have a golden edge at the
sides.

The outer side of the cd's probably get scratched really easily...

A tiny little light scratch is enough to make it unreadable. That's my
theory at least.

The disappointment is mostly with the ghost software itself.

It's completely unable to read any files what so ever.

It sucks big time.

Unless I can find some special switch to at least restore some files... I
will not be using Norton Ghost backup software ever again.

I might even write my own simple backup software in the future to know for
sure that it's better.

I just need a couple of little html files which were not stored in other
data backup's.

So I am quite disappointed at all this technology in general.

Waste my time, wasted my money, sucks.

I hope to learn from this.

I hope to backup my Dream PP 2008 in the future much better than I did my
previous computers

You've be warned people... also I am not the only one having "corruption"
problems. Google shows many people having these kinds of issue's which is
ownly logical... We need better technology that can survive multiple bit
errors... Like even a million bit errors should be possible...

Anyway... I still have some other backups... I have an even older backup
from 2002... But it probably does not contain the files I need.

I also have copies of these backup's in a data safe in another place...
However first I need to go there... and then unlock the safe and get it
out
=D

I will try to that some days from now... maybe those cd's are better ?

It's interesting to find out if a big "data safe" provides any better
storage conditions

So: to be continued... ! =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

CDr disks go bad over time, about 5 years and your files are rotten.
Sounds like you didn't know that going in or else you wouldn't have
even attempted such a thing.

Good news is that all is not lost just yet. You can us CD duplication
technology to create new versions of the supposed bad Ghost disks and
be very surprised to learn that the new ones will work just fine. I'm
not really sure how that works exactly, but it does - so quick - do it
before it really is too late.

And then don't ever use a CDr for long term data storage ever again.

 

[Eeyore]

Hello,

Here is a report out of the trenches/practice.

In 2003 and 2004 I made Full System Backups with Norton Ghost 2002.

Hint: Don't use Norton. It's a bag of shit. Unlike how it used to be.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Hello,

Here is a report out of the trenches/practice.

In 2003 and 2004 I made Full System Backups with Norton Ghost 2002.

This happened in ms-dos mode.

Xcopy c:\*.* d: /s /e /v IIRC

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

CDr disks go bad over time, about 5 years and your files are rotten.
Sounds like you didn't know that going in or else you wouldn't have
even attempted such a thing.

Good news is that all is not lost just yet. You can us CD duplication
technology to create new versions of the supposed bad Ghost disks and
be very surprised to learn that the new ones will work just fine. I'm
not really sure how that works exactly, but it does - so quick - do it
before it really is too late.

And then don't ever use a CDr for long term data storage ever again.

Good point. I'd had some good quality brand CD-ROMs go bad on me. Not good.
Luckily nothing important.

Since I've also seen digital tape go flakey (more than one format - certainly
Exabyte and Philips DCC) it begs the question what DO you back up to ?

More disks I suppose ? Get a big RAID array.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Nothing that you do with computers seems to work. Interesting.

There's a real knack to it. Takes years of practice !

Graham

 

[[email protected]]

Good point. I'd had some good quality brand CD-ROMs go bad on me. Not good.
Luckily nothing important.

Since I've also seen digital tape go flakey (more than one format - certainly
Exabyte and Philips DCC) it begs the question what DO you back up to ?

More disks I suppose ? Get a big RAID array.

Graham

Hard drives appear to the only useful long term solution for the
moment but RAID might be shooting yourself in the foot due to the
complexity?

Oddly enough I still have good CD-RW files going on over ten years old
now. These are on UDF formatted (Adaptec DirectCD) disks written to
with Windows Explorer. I've no explaination for it. But I hate
waiting an hour to format one of these CDs and if the slightest thing
goes wrong while copying a file over to it, the whole CD is forever
ruined and worthless. Along with all the files you had on it.

 

[krw]

Skyduck is in the Netherlands. My guess is that he is Bill's
Protégé.

Skydork isn't *that* stupid.