What is the symbol for a mic?

[Eddie]

I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in
mono or stereo.

Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo
mic?

Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams
which could be used?

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I've seen two overlapping circles used for stereo. But for some
reason a mono mic is one circle PLUS a short bar

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[Michael Black]

I want to write (by hand) if some voice recordings of mine are in
mono or stereo.

Are there some standard symbols used for a mono mic and a stereo
mic?

Are there mono/stereo mic symbols used in schematic circuit diagrams
which could be used?

There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two microphones. Even
when something has two microphone elements in close proximity, on a
schematic they would appear as two microphones, since there would be
two elements hooked up to separate circuitry.

Why not "M" for mono, "S" for stereo?

That's so much simpler than drawing a symbol, even if you had something
that was standard.

Michael

 

[Michael Black]

But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a
fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to
indicate stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than
drawing the mic symbol.

Michael

 

[ehsjr]

But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a
fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to
indicate stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than
drawing the mic symbol.

Michael

Simpler is irrelevant. It's all about clear communication, not
about whether a symbol is easier or harder to draw.

If it is not a standard symbol, then the person looking at the
schematic may not understand what the symbol is supposed to
mean. D= is a mic symbol (when properly drawn) - there is no need
to identify it as mono with an M, it already is mono. If you
replace the symbol with an M, you still need to show the two
legs. And someone could still mistake it - for example, maybe the
"M" means meter. If you want to show a mic as stereo, then you
have to show where the other two legs connect, so merely adding
an S is not enough. And if you show it as just an S, someone might
think it represents a sine wave.

Ed

 

[Michael Black]

Simpler is irrelevant. It's all about clear communication, not
about whether a symbol is easier or harder to draw.

Reread his post. He's talking about labelling recorded material, not
drawing a schematic. What's relevant for a schematic is not relevant in
this case.

Using letters or full words, "Mono" and "Stereo" fits the scenario far
better than trying to find some imaginary schematic symbol for a "stereo
microphone" which will take a lot more effort to draw for his purposes.

Michael

 

[ehsjr]

Reread his post.

I was answering what you were talking about, which seemed to be
schematics: "There are rarely stereo microphones. Usually just two
microphones. Even when something has two microphone elements in close
proximity, on a schematic they would appear as two microphones, since
there would be two elements hooked up to separate circuitry."

He's talking about labelling recorded material, not
drawing a schematic. What's relevant for a schematic is not relevant in
this case.

Right. If it's just about labelling the recordings, then Mono or
Stereo works well, and better than making up a symbol.

Ed

 

[Rich Grise]

But he wants something to indicate mono or stereo. I agree, that's a
fairly standard symbol for a microphone, but he wants something to
indicate stereo. And I would argue that an "M" is still simpler than
drawing the mic symbol.

Just use two mics, one labeled "Right" and the other labeled "Left."

Sure, there are "stereo mics", but they're really just two mics in the
same package.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[ehsjr]

september.org:




Some people use labelling machines with basic graphic capability, or they
print them from a computer onto a sheet of little paper labels. So if you
only design it once you might as well do something that looks nice.

I have to tell you, I don't get it. 5 years down the road he may
look at the symbol and wonder "whatinthehelldoesthatmean?" 5 years
down the road, if he looks at "Mono" or "Stereo", he will know.
And if it is just an M or just an S he'll have a very good shot at
knowing.

Of course for labels for ones own use, each to his own.

Ed

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

Is your purpose communication or demonstrating how clever you are?

Every time I have to figure out some knot-headed icon, I curse. Write
"Stereo" on the stereo recordings and "Mono" on the mono recordings -
then anyone who knows enough about the subject to care about the
difference will understand. I speak, read and write English, not
Iconese. let them go back to Iconland where they belong.

rantingly,

Bill

THIS is the correct response!

 

[Rich Grise]

This is true, but when the point is to think in terms of a pairing as
default state that would be like having to always explicitly specify
multiples of the scissor, or the trouser.

When's the last time you needed a schematic of a scissor or a trouser? ;-)

Why do they wear a pair of panties but only one bra? ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[CellShocked]

When's the last time you needed a schematic of a scissor or a trouser? ;-)

Why do they wear a pair of panties but only one bra? ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

Then, there is the hot dogs / buns thing.

 

[CellShocked]

Double entendre? Or is that just the single entendre?

Hot dogs are sold in packs of ten, while hot dog buns are sold in packs
of eight.

 

[Rich Grise]

Hot dogs are sold in packs of ten, while hot dog buns are sold in packs
of eight.

That's so you can take the two leftover weiners, cut them up, and put
them in your mac&cheese. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[CellShocked]

That's so you can take the two leftover weiners, cut them up, and put
them in your mac&cheese. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

I do Mac-Chee-Tuna-Pea.

I don't do Mac-Chee-DogBits.

 

[CellShocked]

YOU MUST HAVE INHALED TROLL GASES

GO SEE A DOCTOR

I AM PROTEUS

Go away, stupid troll.

 

[CellShocked]

YOU ARE CONFUSED

AND YES YOU DO BELONG IN A CELL

I AM PROTEUS

It is a reference to a spreadsheet, you absolute fucking total retard.

 

[Eddie]

[...]

Here's an idea...
For mono, do the usual, the circle and bar. If you were using
it in a block diagram you'd get by with one pin coming off the
circle at the point opposite the bar's contact with the circle,
otherwise two, each slightly offset from that position, and
parallel.

For stereo, use the two overlapping circles, and a bar joining
tangents on each and extending to a point at each end
coexistent with a tangent on the points most distant from each
other on the double-circle pattern. (Bar is this same length
now). Add one pin to each circle as before, for block diagrams,
and for schematics, a third extending from the circle
intersection point out to a point halfway between the outer
ends of the other pins.

Stereo mics do exist, so this symbol makes sense, it fits
existing conventions, and isn't going to get confused with a
current source symbol because that has no bar, and its pins are
in line, not offset.

I could have just drawn this, but I have no file hosting
arranged, and figuring that out is a lot harder than saying
this stuff..

Hello Lostgallifreyan, thank you for the detailed reply. I'm the
original poster. (Sorry for the delay in replying.) I'm not sure I
can see what you are describing.

(A) What does the following mean?

"bar joining tangents on each"

Does it mean a bar which passes thru the intersection of many pairs
of tangents where each tangents in a pair is drawn from a points
which is situated as if it were the mirror image of the other? This
would be a bar drawn down the middle of the overlapping circles.

(B) I'm not sure about this other part of our description:

"extending to a point at each end coexistent with
a tangent on the points most distant from each
other on the double-circle pattern"

Those "Points on the double circle pattern most distant from each
other" would presumably be those points on the 'outer edges' of the
double-circle. I don't see a single tangent which passes through
those two points. Perhaps you mean a tangent which touches each
circle at the point(s) which are the furtherest possible from one
other while still permitting the existence a common tangent.

(C) What about the overlap of the circles? Do your circles overlap
by a radius? (Such that one circle goes through the other's centre).
Or is the overlap more like half a radius?

Can you give us a drawing. It must be easier to understand than any
more of this? In the end I only want to know see what symbol you're
suggesting for stereo!

 

[Eddie]

THERE ARE OVER 10 SYMBOLS TO DEPICT A MICROPHNOE IN DIAGRAMS
DEPENDING ON IT'S TYPE

IT IS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THE SYMBOL FOR A SPEAKER BUT FOR THE
CONE OR AIR EXPANSION/CONTACT AREA WITH IS USUALLY CONCAVE FOR
A MIKE AND FLAT FOR A SPEAKER THE COIL IS USUALLY ENCLOSED
WITHIN THE MIKE SYMBOL AND OFFSET OFF THE CONE IN A SPEAKER
THOUGH THAT IS JUST A ROUGH GENERAL DISCRIPT IT SHOULD HELP YOU
DECIDE WHICH ONE TO USE

I AM PROTEUS

I am the OP. If I understand you correctly, that symbol would be
tricky to draw by hand and if it was not drawn accurately it
might look strange.

OTOH maybe I've misunderstood you. Do you have a link to an image
of what you have in mind?

 

[CellShocked]

I am the OP. If I understand you correctly, that symbol would be
tricky to draw by hand and if it was not drawn accurately it
might look strange.

OTOH maybe I've misunderstood you. Do you have a link to an image
of what you have in mind?

You are attempting to converse with a total retard.

But then... you are the idiot that wants to put a schematic symbol that
no one else will even recognize onto discs where a SIMPLE TEXT label will
suffice, and will convey the info CORRECTLY.

So, you are only about two steps above the twit you are responding to.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

Ok, I haven't got picture (or any) hosting so I'll risk trying to attach a
PNG image here. It's as small as I can get it so if gets through it should do
it without raising hackles, but this group isn't meant for this.

If someone can remind me what the right group is called for this I'll try
sending it there too.

These are ok for block diagrams or making labels for sticking on things, but
would need a bit of pin modification for schematics if you extended them to
that.

That covers OMNI mikes. Ther are other symbols for cardioid and
hypercardioid, and Supercardioid.

Jeez, you DOPEY FUCKS, just put a TEXT label on the fucking disks!

Only the DOPE that puts the UNKNOWN symbol on the disks will understand
it.

In other words, do not make the jump from dopey fucktard to total
retard by actually printing stupid schematic symbol labels for your
disks.