Hi! May I beg to disagree? My topic was regarding the process of making PCB's by newbies. So how is that classified as "conversation"? So also my post regarding the frying of TV's...this too relates to circuits/switches which would prevent such costly mishaps....and any response to the issues raised by me re Lightning strikes should have a wide reader interest and utility. Your classification of my posts as "conversation" is probably based purely on the subject matters......here I plead guilty as I believe that the subject matter should not by cut n dried but also carry a fair amount of humor ...so sadly lacking around the world!...This, I admit is of course strictly subject to the condition that issues raised relate to electronics and power controls..etc...which you will perhaps agree, my posts do. Further, I am not even for a moment suggesting that such a great forum as the Electronics Lab should be reduced to a silly and frivolous yakking club. NO!! I would earnestly welcome your valuable advise and suggestions as to how I could (as a newbie) go about the forum in future...but frankly making the forum TOO straight jacketed would probably cost it a lot of appeal. Best regards, Lakhan Bangalore India