[[email protected]]

Seems as though ADT or Ebay (or both) have put the clamps down on the
selling of ADT yard signs. I have a self-installed system and am using
a central station of my choosing, but have one ADT yard sign (because
everyone recognizes ADT). I'd be interested in purchasing a couple
more to place elsewhere on the property, and am looking for anyone who
can source these. Please let me know either here or via private email
at briantf27 (at) yahoo (dot) com

Thanks.

 

[Crash Gordon]

What's your address? I'll have ADT's attorneys deliver one special.


| Seems as though ADT or Ebay (or both) have put the clamps down on the
| selling of ADT yard signs. I have a self-installed system and am using
| a central station of my choosing, but have one ADT yard sign (because
| everyone recognizes ADT). I'd be interested in purchasing a couple
| more to place elsewhere on the property, and am looking for anyone who
| can source these. Please let me know either here or via private email
| at briantf27 (at) yahoo (dot) com
|
| Thanks.
|

 

[alarman]

Seems as though ADT or Ebay (or both) have put the clamps down on the
selling of ADT yard signs.

Why do you suppose that is?

I have a self-installed system and am using
a central station of my choosing, but have one ADT yard sign (because
everyone recognizes ADT).

Yes, they are recognized far and wide as the some of the cheapest, most
poorly designed and installed residential systems currently available.

I'd be interested in purchasing a couple
more to place elsewhere on the property, and am looking for anyone who
can source these.

Source them? SOURCE them? You mean steal them and sell them to you?

Please let me know either here or via private email
at briantf27 (at) yahoo (dot) com

Wait. You're a network engineer, right?

Thanks.

**** off.
js

 

[nick markowitz]

Personelly I do not use the yard signs and do not offer them to my
customers. Might as well hang a sign out to come and rob me because i have
an alarm system becuse im afraid i have something of value to loose. I have
a customer who is a councelor at local prison and has interviewed his share
of burglars and they all tell him when they see an alarm sign on one house
and not the other that the sign usuually is a target for a breakin and
depending on the sign burglars already know how a system is installed and
designed.

 

[Crash Gordon]

And you follow that reasoning from a burglar who is in prison? DUH.

Come on man, does that really make sense to you?





| Personelly I do not use the yard signs and do not offer them to my
| customers. Might as well hang a sign out to come and rob me because i have
| an alarm system becuse im afraid i have something of value to loose. I
have
| a customer who is a councelor at local prison and has interviewed his
share
| of burglars and they all tell him when they see an alarm sign on one house
| and not the other that the sign usuually is a target for a breakin and
| depending on the sign burglars already know how a system is installed and
| designed.
|
| | > | >> Seems as though ADT or Ebay (or both) have put the clamps down on the
| >> selling of ADT yard signs.
| >
| > Why do you suppose that is?
| >
| >> I have a self-installed system and am using
| >> a central station of my choosing, but have one ADT yard sign (because
| >> everyone recognizes ADT).
| >
| > Yes, they are recognized far and wide as the some of the cheapest, most
| > poorly designed and installed residential systems currently available.
| >
| >>I'd be interested in purchasing a couple
| >> more to place elsewhere on the property, and am looking for anyone who
| >> can source these.
| >
| > Source them? SOURCE them? You mean steal them and sell them to you?
| >
| >> Please let me know either here or via private email
| >> at briantf27 (at) yahoo (dot) com
| >
| > Wait. You're a network engineer, right?
| >
| >> Thanks.
| >
| > **** off.
| > js
| >
|
|

 

[Stanley Barthfarkle]

Personelly I do not use the yard signs and do not offer them to my
customers. Might as well hang a sign out to come and rob me because i have
an alarm system becuse im afraid i have something of value to loose. I
have a customer who is a councelor at local prison and has interviewed his
share of burglars and they all tell him when they see an alarm sign on one
house and not the other that the sign usuually is a target for a breakin
and depending on the sign burglars already know how a system is installed
and designed.

I prefer to use yard signs & window stickers. I pity the fool who uses signs
but has no system installed, though.

PS- Use spell checker Nick.

 

[[email protected]]

Why do you suppose that is?

Because they hate capitalism?

Yes, they are recognized far and wide as the some of the cheapest, most
poorly designed and installed residential systems currently available.

I don't care, and the low life wetbacks who are breaking and entering
in my neck of the woods don't know this.

Source them? SOURCE them? You mean steal them and sell them to you?

I could steal them myself. They're everywhere. No I mean source them,
jackass.

Wait. You're a network engineer, right?

Nope, but you're obviously an idiot.

**** off.

Blow me.

 

[[email protected]]

Sounds like you blew it.

Perhaps, but I had my expectations set very low to begin with.

 

[Bob Worthy]

Because they hate capitalism?



I don't care, and the low life wetbacks who are breaking and entering
in my neck of the woods don't know this.



I could steal them myself. They're everywhere. No I mean source them,
jackass.



Nope, but you're obviously an idiot.



Blow me.

Sounds like you blew it.

 

[[email protected]]

I have
a customer who is a councelor at local prison and has interviewed his share
of burglars and they all tell him when they see an alarm sign on one house
and not the other that the sign usuually is a target for a breakin and
depending on the sign burglars already know how a system is installed and
designed.

That follows the EXACT opposite pattern from almost all the breakins in
my neighborhood and the surrounding neighborhoods, and frankly isn't
intuitive. Most breakins are quick smash and grab jobs... And here in
California, it's the illegals that our legislature coddles who are the
perpetrators. These aren't tech savvy criminals. They want to get in,
grab stuff of value that can be pawned off, and get out. First they
pick the neighborhood (affluent areas), and then pick the easy targets
within the neighborhood. The houses with signs (with or without
systems) are not getting hit.

The *one* story I've heard that hasn't fit this mold were a pair of
idiots who thought they knew the police reponse time, and could get in
and out of alarmed houses fast enough. They didn't count on a neighbor
hearing the alarm and subduing them with a couple Taser guns until the
police arrived.

 

[[email protected]]

Need to learn how to take things with a grain of salt around here. You may
have heard me say many times, it is just kicks and giggles for me with some
of these folks. Pick out what you need and either have fun or ignore the
rest.

Yep. And when it ceases to be fun, my replies usually stop.

 

[Bob Worthy]

Perhaps, but I had my expectations set very low to begin with.

Need to learn how to take things with a grain of salt around here. You may
have heard me say many times, it is just kicks and giggles for me with some
of these folks. Pick out what you need and either have fun or ignore the
rest.

 

[[email protected]]

What's your address? I'll have ADT's attorneys deliver one special.

Hahaha. Right. I can understand ADT taking exception to EBay sellers
who are suggesting the use of the signs without buying an alarm
system... But what I do with a sign on my private property that I
obtained legally is beyond their concern and control.

 

[Bob Worthy]

Yep. And when it ceases to be fun, my replies usually stop.

Better that and return when you want rather than trying to return to face
the reminder of your comments. People here can dig up more stuff, regardless
of how old it is....and will quickly remind you of it. Catch ya in the
future if you decide to face the heat. ;o]

 

[alarman]

Sounds like you blew it.

js

 

[Crash Gordon]

How did you obtain an ADT sign "legally" without buying an alarm from ADT?
My lawnsigns are my property and covered by my tradename (similar to
copyright protection), if you don't buy a system from me you can't get a
sign "legally", if you stole it from someone else's lawn...that ain't legal
either.

ADT does not sell lawnsigns so you don't own it legally.


|
| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > What's your address? I'll have ADT's attorneys deliver one special.
| >
|
| Hahaha. Right. I can understand ADT taking exception to EBay sellers
| who are suggesting the use of the signs without buying an alarm
| system... But what I do with a sign on my private property that I
| obtained legally is beyond their concern and control.
|

 

[Steve]

How did you obtain an ADT sign "legally" without buying an alarm from ADT?
My lawnsigns are my property and covered by my tradename (similar to
copyright protection), if you don't buy a system from me you can't get a
sign "legally", if you stole it from someone else's lawn...that ain't
legal
either.

ADT does not sell lawnsigns so you don't own it legally.

There are legal doctrines involving the abandonment of property that would
come into play here at some point. That also applies to leased systems left
in houses.

Personally yard signs make good targets/target holders

 

[[email protected]]

How did you obtain an ADT sign "legally" without buying an alarm from ADT?
My lawnsigns are my property and covered by my tradename (similar to
copyright protection), if you don't buy a system from me you can't get a
sign "legally", if you stole it from someone else's lawn...that ain't legal
either.

ADT does not sell lawnsigns so you don't own it legally.

I guess when a law is enacted which says "Purchasing ADT lawn signs is
forbidden by law" I'd take care not to do so. Dealers who sell ADT
lawnsigns as accessories might be frowned upon by ADT, but even that is
NOT illegal. In the case of EBay, I'm sure the guys who are currently
selling ADT signs with the logo intentionally distorted in pictures
received a nice pissy letter from ADT lawyers who had their panties in
a bunch over the suggestion of using signs without buying an alarm
system and using the ADT trademark to do so. But, believe it or not,
the act of buying an ADT lawn sign does not constitute trademark
infringement. Hell, ADT should love the free advertising I am
providing, if anything.

 

[Robert L Bass]

How did you obtain an ADT sign "legally"

without buying an alarm from ADT? My
lawnsigns are my property...

That depends on what ADT may have done. If they left the sigs there after the client stopped dealing with them the signs are
abandoned. Considering they rarely even collect leased alarm systems, I doubt they're about to go around collecting old lawn signs.
Besaides, they don't put them up as a deterrent to theft. They're advertising for the alarm company.

If ADT labels the sigs as company property and makes a reasonable effort to collect them at the expiration of the contract, then ADT
has the right to their return. However, if ADT abandons them they become the property of the homeowner and he can do whatever he
wants with them.

and covered by my tradename (similar to
copyright protection...

Not really. The material printed on them is covered under trademark and copyright laws but not the physical signs themselves. It's
more a book which you write. If someone in lawful possession of the book wants to sell it on eBay he has every right to do so. He
just copy and can't publish the book.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-866-1100
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>

 

[[email protected]]

That depends on what ADT may have done. If they left the sigs there after the client stopped dealing with them the signs are
abandoned. Considering they rarely even collect leased alarm systems, I doubt they're about to go around collecting old lawn signs.
Besaides, they don't put them up as a deterrent to theft. They're advertising for the alarm company.

If ADT labels the sigs as company property and makes a reasonable effort to collect them at the expiration of the contract, then ADT
has the right to their return. However, if ADT abandons them they become the property of the homeowner and he can do whatever he
wants with them.


Not really. The material printed on them is covered under trademark and copyright laws but not the physical signs themselves. It's
more a book which you write. If someone in lawful possession of the book wants to sell it on eBay he has every right to do so. He
just copy and can't publish the book.

For all the flack you get around here, Bass, it appears as though you
do know what you're talking about.... At least sometimes.