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- Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield Hill,
I am very need it,Pls help me,thnak you!
I am very need it,Pls help me,thnak you!
OTA is difficult to buy,and I have some conventional amp,so I
hope use convertional amp to build it.I very need your help.
OTA is difficult to buy ...
A programmed hard-clamp of the voltage into the integrator
resistor is an alternative way. Not so elegant as the OTA,
but possibly good enough for your application.
R1 R2 R3 R4
Vin +-/\/\-+-/\/\--------+--/\/\--+--/\/\---+-->Vout
| | _ | |
| | / -|-+ |
| +--<OP1| |
| \_+|--+0v |
| |
| (+Vc-Vd) |
| _|_ |
| _ D1/_\ |
+--|- \ R5 | R6 C1 |
|OP2>--/\/\-+-/\/\--+---||----+
0v+--|+_/ _|_ | _ |
D2/_\ +--|- \ |
| |OP3>--+
(-Vc+Vd) 0v+-|+_/
(+Vc-Vd)/|\ /|\(-Vc+Vd)
| |
R7 | | R8
-15v -/\/\--+ +--/\/\- +15v
| |
Vc +----|>|---+-/\/\--+---/\/\---+--|>|--+
D3 R9 | R10 D4 |
| _ |
+--|- \ |
|OP4>-----------+ -Vc
0v+--|+_/
Vc= slewing rate control voltage, 0-10v.
Vout slewing rate = Vc/R6*C1, Volts/Sec.
R1=R2, R3=R4, R9=R10, say 10k each.
R5=R7=R8, value not less than 15v/5mA.
Haven't decided on the ratio of R5:R6 yet.
R1 R2 R3 R4
Vin +-/\/\-+-/\/\--------+--/\/\--+--/\/\---+-->Vout
| | _ | |
| | / -|-+ |
| +--<OP1| |
| \_+|--+0v |
| |
| (+Vc-Vd) |
| _|_ |
| _ D1/_\ |
+--|- \ R5 | R6 C1 |
|OP2>--/\/\-+-/\/\--+---||----+
0v+--|+_/ _|_ | _ |
D2/_\ +--|- \ |
| |OP3>--+
(-Vc+Vd) 0v+-|+_/
The saving grace Win is that OPA2 runs wide open and
switches up/down like a comparator rather than an opamp.
Winfield Hill said:I recognize that, a nice touch, but the problem is accurately
creating 100mV clamp voltages to get a simple 2-decade range,
let alone 10mV or 1mV clamp voltages, hence active rectifiers.
But if the OP only needs a 20:1 or perhaps 50:1 range ...
Tony Williams said:Ah, ok. I see what you are getting at. I had assumed
a relatively crude range of adjustment, (and got stuck
in the 'getting it into 1 quad opamp' mode).
Fred Bartoli said:Still it'll remain 5 opamps.
Ken Smith said:Fred Bartoli[....]
Still it'll remain 5 opamps.
How about this as a slew rate limiter:
Vcc 1/3 4053
! +Va -------- ---!!---
\ o--!X1 ! ! !
/ ! Y0!---/\/\--+-!-\ !
\ o--!X0 ! ! >---+
Vin ----!-\ ! -Vb ! ! GND---!+/ !
! >--+---------!A ! !
--!+/ -------- op-amp !
! Comp !
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When the circuit is in the resting state, there is a very small saw-tooth
on the output. You trade this for the softness of the circuit with
diodes.
It should work over a couple of decades.