hydroxy gas power supply/separating oxygen and hydrogen from water

[steven2]

im back and here is a modified foam wire cutter circuit  combined with a water gas circiut, etc for the separation of hydrogen and oxygen from water . now the brown colourd green caps are rated at 10uf each and at 100 volts , and as i started to increase the green caps, a few at a time, i was getting more bubbleing reaction from the stainlless steell bolts, that i used as electrodes, in the last information i read and downloaded last time off the net there was some mention of putting a capacitor across the electrodes so i put 2x 2700uf  at 40 volts each, in parralell across the outputs to the stainlless steell bolt electrodes , i use the dial controll to controll the ac of the modified foam cutter circuit which has a 4.7 ohms 100 watts gold colourd metal finned resister sitting on a heatsink, and the scr i changed to a higher voltage rateing and  current rateing and allso i put a 50 watts 1 ohms metal finned resister in parralell with the big 4.7 ohms . and it all works ok in makeing hydrogen and oxygen,  low pressure  gas which i can make higher pressure by designing a hand pressure pumping station which is under construction , and is simple and only needs a few parts. oh the ac from the foam cutter goes to the bridge rectifier circuit/ water gas circuit so i get dc

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[steven2]

heres the home made hydrogen and oxygen plant nearly finished and the caps with the stainlless steell bolts, electrodes through them can be screwed off , they are water tight and are , virtually plastic drink bottle tops and allso the neck of the drink bottles to.  . in the picture only 2 electrodes will be used , the middlle one and iether left or right and on iether side is a gas holding tank and at the back is the drip or water feeding tank . the orange taps you see are water irigation taps from the local hardware, still a few things to do yet before finished , in the gas holding tanks water is used as a compression piston to force the gas out to a holding vessell . ive been planing to further modify the tanks to use as bubblers to.

 

[steven2]

here is the home made hydroxy gas plant under construction

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[steven2]

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[steven2]

this is the most easy to biuld simple hydroxy generator and it mixes them both , and when i test it  it dosent even burn, if ya herd of a cold flame before

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[steven2]

heres a picture of the flame, i took video footage of it with my digital camera and then downloaded it back onto pc then i slowed it down and then i used my digital camera to take stills from the stopped video pictures and then i loaded them back onto pc

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[ante1]

Hi Steven,

Very neat arrangement, it looks like you got you

 

[monoman]

hi,
this project is brilliant!!  I never would have thought of using an arrangement like this in the house, supplying you with hydrogen gas to burn. I could use this in my boiler and hob, maybe save some on the gas bills! 
do you mind posting the circuit schematics for it, and any other important mechanical schematics that you have made?
I would really appreciate this,

monoman

 

[steven2]

the actual foam cutter circuit i used i posted it into one of the forums here before so the details are there . you only need to change the scr to a higher voltage one that can handle 35 amps and , use a 4.7 ohms 50 watt resistor in place of the 2x 10 ohms resistor then add a 1 ohms 50 watts in parralell with the 4.7 ohms and the increase the green caps by adding more 10 uf green caps and note the increase in buibles and  add 2x 27oouf or over in parralell with the output terminals , look in the forums electronic foam cutter or whatever ive got it named as and you will see it there .

 

[steven2]

http://www.electronics-lab.com/forum/index.php?topic=9252.0

heres the shortcut to the electronic foam cutter just follow the modifications and use the bridge rectifier rated for around 35 amps or close to it

 

[steven2]

thankyou ante and monoman, for the inspireing coments , ive upgraded the plant since and the tanks are now allso bublers to , all i need is drainage tanks which there isent any room to put them but ill think of something . as for useing a bycical pump etc etc to pressureize the gas well the bycical pumps have changed in design over the years and so it failed my test so ill look for another idea to do the job , the pump, pumps air out even under pressure ok  but it dosent do to well in reverse mode as the air leaks out then, the tanks are made from pcv pipes, the same stuff i make circuit boxes from and i seal the ends with a heated to soften and flattened out peace of pvc, which is cut to fit the ends and the glued in . but before this is done i mark out the windw and useing a mini drill and drill bit i drill out that section then useing some clear plastic cut from a plastic drink bottle like coke or sarsparilla i then hold it over the window hole on the inside , after i spread pumbers contact glue around it to seal it in place  the plastic orange water taps are cheap to buy even for irigation purposes i use them to controll water, and gas flow .

 

[monoman]

thanks alot for those schematics!
can you provide me with the information about how to set up the actual chambers, e.g. where the water goes in, where the hydrogen gas comes out, and all the chambers in between, along with the process of each one?

this is alot to ask but maybe you could direct me to this information? (some diagrams would be really helpful too ;D)

I will really be grateful, thanks,
monoman

 

[steven2]

monoman i shall do what i can do to help, if ya read my post before this one  the pvc water pipes you should get from ya local hardware, depending on where ya are and they are easy to cut and heat so that they get soft, enoutgh to flatten out and use to cut round circles out of , to use to seal the ends of the section of pvc pipe ,that you cut out for the tanks , for the windows use the clear plastic cut from a a bottle of coke or other and seal it  on the inside of the window hole, you drill out of the side of the pvc pipe section that you are gona use for a tank , on the outside edge of the window you use a white sealant to seal the edges and varnish it all down over the outside of the pvc pipe tank , then  the rest is easy , ive modified the tanks by adding the plastic coke bottle neck and lid to the top of tanks and run the plastic tubes to them and the final gas output will be next to them when i do that last bit

 

[steven2]

here is more shots of the actual upgrades, . at the top of the gas and water chambers are plastic drink bottle necks with there screw on tops on. and lets start with the first tank the orange , water/gas flow tap which goes through the screw on top has a tube under it which runs to the inside bottom of the tank  through water which is in the tank ,so this tank is used as a bubler  the tube runing from under the tank can be used for anything but im gona use it as a drain tank and the one on the side well same thing so i have multiple uses for the tanks , the tallest tank is the water feed tank which feeds the water to the hydroxy unit, and it has a tap on top to let in air to displace the water as it gets used  and because im useing 2 out of the 3 sections of the main hydroxy gas generator i have the water input into the same top cap where the hydrogen allso comes out of . the 3rd section not used  is sealed by the tap in the off position at the end of the tube  . by useing the left and middle hydroxy output pipes is like bringing the electrodes closer together for faster reactions , the extra orange plastic taps you see at the top of the gas tanks is the gas collection piont  after the gas rises up through the water from the bottom of the tank  thats why its now a bubbler tank  which allso can stop backfire or flashback but it wont happen  the front bottle caps of the hydroxy generator  with the plastic bottle necks to which they are screwed onto , have a blue plastic like washer inside them  these are very important as they stop water leaks so , the stainlless steell bolts go through them to and are glued or sealed on both side s so the top of the screw on cap and under inside are glued where the bolt goes in and where it comes out, to be direct

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[steven2]

internet exsplorer problems is cutting me off from electronics lab when i upload pictures , and i have to go back in from the desktop

 

[steven2]

another thing i forgot to mention is that the left hand side of the hydroxy gas generator where 2 tubes go into the top one for water input and the other next to it for hydrogen output, well under the cap where the water input tube goes , that tube is exstended down to the water inside the hydroxy unit  so that it will stop feeding water when the end of the tube is submerged , or if i close the air intake displacement tap at the top of the water tank itself .

 

[steven2]

you need to get the actual modified foam cuuting circiut biult and going to get ya gas from the water which is  important  so here is another handy peace you can biuld from very few parts to use, first the modified foam cutter makes small amounts of gas enougth to fill a balloon so it stands up for just a few miniutes so if you let it run longer it may inflate the balloon, if not here is a way you can store each amount of gas into a balloon so it inflates more , ill be working on a simple prssure tank to force it in and allow it out under pressure , in the picture here you will  see on the right a bycical pump hose , this has an inbiult fitting inside the other end that when screwed over the bycical valve , to which i have stripped the rubber off, to show the houseing, inside the houseing is a srew in valve which allows for one way gas floe through the orange tap when in the open position.  the other valve tap is left closed  this is for when you want to thunnell the collected gas from the collection balloon else where. now when you make your gas  which is stored in a separate balloon attached to the hydroxy gas generator remove the balloon and conect it to the bycical pump hose conection use a bit of plastic tube on it to assist in the conection then sqeeze the gas out through the setup so it goes one way into the colection balloon , then make more gas and conect it to the gas input hose, thats the bycical pump hose then sqeeze the balloon with your hand to force the gas through the bycicle tube one way valve so that the gas allso goes into the colection balloon. when your ready to use the gas  just add a conection to the top gas output like a container of water  with the tube runing to the bottom so when you open the tap and sqeeze the gas colection balloon the gas will then flow out the output tube and into the water and it will buble out  for use  so this will stop the gas from igniting and flashing back  to the main gas holding balloon

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[steven2]

heres a close up of the section with the bycical tube valve houseing its removable valve is inside

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[monoman]

Hi steven,
Thank you for all of this, much appreciated,
there is more than enough info to get started with,
please if you add/change anythink else, keep posted,

monoman