hydroxy gas power supply/separating oxygen and hydrogen from water

[audioguru2]

Hydrogen burns with a hard to see blue flame. Sodium added (from bicarbonate of soda or from salt) makes a yellow flame like a sodium-vapour street light.

 

[steven2]

thankyou audio guru , i replied before but then half way through posting the page went down and i got the page cannot be found or something like that , for a good amount of larger bubles of gas from water , you can use a 2200 uf electro as an electrode pry open the bottom can and put it in the water mix, thats demineralized water  with its bi carb soda and make sure it aint all submerged then run the wire to it from my power supply and see bigger and faster bubles come out of the capacitor as if the electrolyte solution in the capacitor seems to be  acting as a catalyst. i used a small measureing glass and it was a bit to small as the water got hot  so use something bigger , at first i used 2 electros but got better reaction from just one , and the positive and negative foil plates in the electrode was my pos and neg electrodes, heres a pic of the double one

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[steven2]

just click on the picture and see the big bubles under the 2 electrolytes,

 

[steven2]

heres a more simpler to make faster power supply for getting faster hydroxy gas output. before i shock yous i was given this little messy looking pototype  flyback driver which allso has a bottle capacitor some time ago  all i had to do was make the small tesla coil which its ment to power, but i never had the matierial for the coil so i threw it in my projects draw, soon after that i decided to  salvage the  irfp460 trannys from it which was used in place of the originals trannys which was in the circiut allso found on the net , so i decided to try it on my hydroxy gas generator but it dident go so i made a small modification now it goes faster than my other power supply dose , i ran a wire from the inductor which was originally ment to go to the flyback transformer , to the  positive output and it worked great and made gas faster than my other one ,  and even though its ment to run off a car battery which i reckon youll get better reactions ,i ran it from one of my small 12 volts lead acid cell batteries and i left the top off my hydroxy gas generator and it went so fast i though it was gona over flow with the water in it and bubles and mist , i posted this circiut some time back in the high voltage stuff section so it should still be there

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[steven2]

if i remeber ok i was told when i was given the prototpye circiut for this, that is was a push pull type circiut and this is ideal for makeing hydroxy gas  faster with so im glad i had a printed circiut board version i made useing some of the salvaged parts from the messy prototpye.

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[steven2]

ill try powering this with the adjustable output of my hydroxy gas power supply latter i reckon ill get really great gas output, heres the circiut again , its in the tesla downunder site to

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[steven2]

one end of the inductor is solderd to the board , the other which was ment to run allso to the flyback transformer i ran it to the positive output

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[steven2]

one of my pictures come out blury i apoligise for that

 

[steven2]

you can see by the amount of dust on the board which i forgot to clean off , how long its been sitting in my projects draw

 

[steven2]

ulike my other hydroxy gas generator power supply which created gas ok but not fast enougth to overcome the elasticity of the balloon and inflate it under pressure , here is the latest , of the flyback driver circiut being used to create gas at a faster rate , it was so effective it even inflated the balloon more than the other power supply did and concidering the elasticity of the balloon i got enougth pressure from the gas output to inflate the balloon more so now i have to design a bigger hydroxy tank for storeing more gas  that is created at a faster rate

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[steven2]

if trying to make this circiut for the use of makeing hydroxy gas, the sf67 diodes which aint in the circiut schematics , was only put in  to block the reverse voltage from the flyback or something like that, and so i think you dont need them if useing this for the electrolysis stuff .  mur4100e diodes are used in the circiut thats the fast diode . but even though the transistors have some kind of biult in protection diode the sf67 diodes may be used for extra protection ill upgrade that circiut schematic to include the changes to make it easyer to biuld by

 

[steven2]

here is the printed circiut board design i drew up some time ago for that circiut .this is what you see through the top of the board  so the design is easy to trace onto a coper board through carbon paper ,the letter I is for the inductor wire, the other end goes to near the output  allso marked with a letter I.  the letter L represents tinned coper wire links , or jumper .the 2x Z1  12 volts zener diodes the 10 resistors are 1/4 watt the other 2 x 470 ohms are 1 watts the sf67 diodes can be brought at jaycar electronics in the 10 pack for just under $10 and the trannys are at world wide electronics , allso the other 2 diodes to.

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[steven2]

heres some close ups of the circiut so you can see the tracks through the top of the board matches the circiut board design

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[steven2]

heres one from another angle

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[hanker886]

steven,

would you pls advise what's the input power used? do you haev a video for us to see the result? thks

 

[steven2]

hey hanker 886 sorey for the long delay in replying i was off the net for a break  while i biuld my credit up so im back for another few weeks .i used a 12 volts seald lead acid cell battery to power it  i have more up dates and pictures of the bright yellow gas flame from igniting the hydroxy gas and allso some video footage it it burning to heres the latest picture of the tank and high voltage arc ignition , i modified the low pressure gas tank from my big hydroxy gas plant i made which i put aside for the time being and have modified it so the hydroxy gas flows out in a better concentration from the hydroxy gas comppression and holding tank  the tank i modified is now a bubbler tank to aviod flash backs and ignition test tank to  the brass electrode i used for the high voltage goes into a hole in the side of the upside down plastic thunnel i inserted into the top section of the tank before i sealed it in and the high voltage arc return is the wire and bolt in the alliuminium thunnell. combustion chamber i used and ive added an exstension arc wire after the picture was taken, to encourage the arc to go to the wire and not the top edge of combustion chamber so the gas will pas through the arc better and hopefully ignite . so the gas output tube from the hydroxy gas generator can now be run directly to the comppression and holding tank , then the gas input is shut off and the other tap turned on.  then the gas will run to the bottom of the bubbler tank through the one way bycical tube valve and then through the water and out the top metal chamber and the electrodes and wires for the arc are tapped directly to the high voltage output of my multi  ignition coil , which is powerd by a simple driver circiut , then i can watch the gas being ignited 

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[steven2]

heres another circiut identical to the other and the 100uh inductor costs only just over $3 each at jaycar electronics and the brown colourd greencap they are cheap for 68nf , and the sf 67 super fast diodes i got from world wide electronics in perth western australia where i am so when they finnally got some in i orderd some , so now with 2 identical circiuts  all i need to do is make another simple hydroxy generator and channell the 2 gas outputs from both into one and get twice as much gas and flow so then i can design a larger comppression tank for it

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[steven2]

i have no idea if video footage can be uploaded here as they are 10mb in size, so if anyone wants any email me and ill email some to you

 

[steven2]

here is the latest picture, of the latest hydroxy gas generator power supply/push pull driver circiut/flyback transformer driver circiut. all installed into the latest home made pvc circiut box.  notice the heatsink with the 2 irfp450 n channell mosfets on it , all installed inside the box and not outside it ,  if i installed it outside and i was to pick the box up when i have a static charge on my body  in case i touch the heatsink with the static sensitive mosfets on them,  i dont want to take that chance. 

  see that blue plastic screw on lid im holding  it has a small hollow threaded outlet pipe screwed into it , that lid originally screws onto a large 4 liter demineralized water container that i have my demineralized water and bi car soda mix in it for the hydroxy gas generator.

that lid being to big to fit on top of my smallest hydroxy generator , so i sat it on top of it and the gas and vapours made one side of that lid jump up and down and when i held my lighter flame at the outlet black peace  i wasent getting the gas reaction as it was comeing out under the lid and not where i held the flame, as the gas was comeing out from under it which exsplains the lid jumping up and down, so i decided  to apply pressure and hold that lid down with my hand to give it a better seal and so the gas will come out the outlet nozzell instead , and with the flame at the output nozel it made a loud bang , it was an implosion as the lid did not force upwards against my hand at all , and due to the narrow neck of my small hydroxy gas generator it couldent get sucked into it so it got cracked at  trying to . if you have kodack easy share use the zoom to zoom in on that lid  to try see the crack if you can , with the lid off you can see bubles and allso the hydroxy gas vapours to and with a lazer youll see it better 

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[steven2]

if ive made an error on the mosfets i used they are the IRFP450 N CHANNEL MOSFETS , and the stainlless steell bolts i used, have 302 written on the packet, i need to try to get a better grade of stainlless steell that i was told is harder and may corode less than the grade of stainlless steell im useing, i apologise for the clarity of the last picture here ,