Laminate flooring and ESD?

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

Carpet isn't usually too bad.

You're an idiot. An insulator is an insulator is an insulator,
dipshit.

Chairs are the real bummer. Slide your
butt off a typical lab-type chair and you'll take away a huge charge.

A typical electronics lab-type chair does NO SUCH THING.

But it's probably worse up there in the hills. Here on the coast, the
humidity seldom gets below 50%, and I'm convinced there's a fine layer
of salt spray on everything, given how stuff rusts here.

That must be what happened to your brain.

 

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

For 0402, 0201 and SC-75 it doesn't really matter anymore once your eyes
are over 40. Not a chance.

That's what the swiffer is for. Keep the floor spotlessly clean, and
when you drop that micro fine form factor part, you need only swiff it up
to get it back.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Put a sandpaper on the floor. If they try, that will wear them up to
their ears

Then you would love to have someone run a floor sander on your ass,
too? Sick bastard.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

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Gentlemen,

My office and lab carpets are nearly shot. The office from all those
roller chairs, the lab from, well, a few kablouies and stuff. Here in
the US I can't find the foam-backed short-loop carpet I had in Germany
which never created any ESD issues. Contemplated wood flooring such as
bamboo but a friend advised against that. Occasionally the dogs are here
and when the Fedex truck pulls up they perform a Fred Flintstone start
-> big scratches. He suggested laminate.

Not that I like laminate but does anyone know how ESD-prone it is? Any
recommended brands? I mean the regular stuff, not top-Dollar specialty
products.

Try the real stuff from www.unitedESD.com -- I got materials for
15'x15' for about $1K.

Pete Klammer
www.NETRONICS-PE.com

 

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

Try the real stuff from SNIP-- I got materials for
15'x15' for about $1K.

As usual... another ESD product triple overpriced.

 

[Jim Thompson]

Have you considered stone or ceramic tile? A bit spendy perhaps, but
tough.

I've laid my own ceramic floor tile since the early '70's. It's not
good for rolling a desk chair, likewise carpet isn't much better.

For ESD protection, consider an anti-ESD mat (equipped with a grounding
lug). They make rolling a chair around easier than on carpet or uneven
surfaces as an added benefit.

ESD mats are ugly :-(

I'm considering those poured floors that you often see in hospitals.

...Jim Thompson

 

[Jim Thompson]

Terrazzo?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I'm not sure what it is. I believe it's some kind of man-made
material. It's nice in that they form the baseboards as well, so
mop-up is super clean.

...Jim Thompson

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

I've laid my own ceramic floor tile since the early '70's. It's not
good for rolling a desk chair, likewise carpet isn't much better.


ESD mats are ugly :-(

I'm considering those poured floors that you often see in hospitals.

...Jim Thompson

Terrazzo?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Ecnerwal]

....
I'm not sure what it is. I believe it's some kind of man-made
material. It's nice in that they form the baseboards as well, so
mop-up is super clean.

...Jim Thompson

There seem to be both epoxies, and some urethane/polyurethane versions,
on a quick search. The epoxies are thicker and more likely to do the
integral baseboard thing well, again on a quick search.

As for color/pattern, I'm a big fan of NO pattern as the best floor to
find anything on, and white or some other very light color as providing
better light in the room (even if that does mean it shows the dirt
and/or scuff marks).

Products that depend on carbon black to be conductive generally tend to
be black, but I'd hate to look for black parts on one of those...

 

[Active8]

Yep. I've been thinking of wood also. Though some of the cork
flooring is nice.

I saw a fire house with bamboo flooring and other earth friendly stuff
- some news article.

Mike

 

[John Larkin]

You're an idiot. An insulator is an insulator is an insulator,
dipshit.


A typical electronics lab-type chair does NO SUCH THING.


That must be what happened to your brain.

We can sure see why you're bored. You sort of radiate boredom,
omnidirectionally.

John

 

[Active8]

I'm interested also. The wife says my office looks "like shit" ;-)

Isn't it the office manager's job to pick out the bamboo flooring (or
whatever)?

Mike

 

[Robert Latest]

Not that I like laminate but does anyone know how ESD-prone it is? Any
recommended brands? I mean the regular stuff, not top-Dollar specialty
products.

Laminate is just clear plastic over a printed wood decor backed by HDF. I
don't know if it comes in conductive variety.

Call me a snob but I find a plastic floor that looks like plastic less
objectionable than a plastic floor that is trying to look like wood. I'd go
for real linoleum.

As far as the dogs are concerned: I don't know what state of mind gets
people to keep large animals in the house, but shouldn't one expect a
certain rate of destruction?

I find that real wood flooring, even soft wood, can sustain a lot of visible
damage without looking crappy.

robert

 

[Rene Tschaggelar]

Joerg wrote:



I find that real wood flooring, even soft wood, can sustain a lot of visible
damage without looking crappy.

robert

Beside that bamboo ist amongst the hardest. Comparable
to the oak.
I have painted concrete here with carpets here and
there. Even with low humidity, I never had an ESD
issue.

The overpriced ESD flooring is only overpriced because
the demand is so little. If they made it 10% above the
regular it'd go better, I guess.

Rene

 

[Joerg]

That's what the swiffer is for. Keep the floor spotlessly clean, and
when you drop that micro fine form factor part, you need only swiff it up
to get it back.

Could get kind of disgusting after a shedding Rottweiler and a shedding
Shepherd have snoozed under the lab bench for a few hours ;-)

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

We can sure see why you're bored. You sort of radiate boredom,
omnidirectionally.

He's trying to suck all the intelegence out of the universe but as
usual, his lame attempt... SUCKS.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Joerg]

I've laid my own ceramic floor tile since the early '70's. It's not
good for rolling a desk chair, likewise carpet isn't much better.




ESD mats are ugly :-(

I'm considering those poured floors that you often see in hospitals.

That stuff has a really low WAF. It's plain ugly.

 

[Charlie Edmondson]

N. and M. seem to have entered a conspiracy because exactly that is what
happened here this weekend. If it was just me, I'd keep the carpet
another 5-10 years.

Since you have small Dachshunds and your switch-mode gizmos explode
virtually on SPICE instead of molten solder and stuff like here you
might consider real hardwood. It looks so much nicer. I really like the
bamboo flooring. But in my case it's unlikely to survive :-(

Hi Jeorge,
Have you looked at cork flooring? But I don't know its ESD properties...

Charlie

 

[Joerg]

Try the real stuff from www.unitedESD.com -- I got materials for
15'x15' for about $1K.

Thanks, Pete. I see they also make those carpet tiles. I really loved
them in Europe. But couldn't take them with me :-(

 

[Jim Thompson]

That stuff has a really low WAF. It's plain ugly.

It's MY office ;-)

...Jim Thompson