RF project boxes: Where?

[Joerg]

Hello Folks,

Have to build a few filter protos for a client, looking for RF boxes,
something like 1.5" by 3" and 1" high. Ran out of stock, finally. What
are they called these days? Couldn't find any on Digikey or Mouser. I
used to get them by the boat load at the next electronics store for a
few bucks but those all vanished.

It should be tin-plated steel with a finger-snap lid, the usual, RF guys
know what I mean. Not the die cast ones and definitely no aluminum. Best
from a place like Digikey where I can order all the other stuff as well.
Any ideas?

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

Hello Folks,

Have to build a few filter protos for a client, looking for RF boxes,
something like 1.5" by 3" and 1" high. Ran out of stock, finally. What
are they called these days? Couldn't find any on Digikey or Mouser. I
used to get them by the boat load at the next electronics store for a
few bucks but those all vanished.

It should be tin-plated steel with a finger-snap lid, the usual, RF guys
know what I mean. Not the die cast ones and definitely no aluminum. Best
from a place like Digikey where I can order all the other stuff as well.
Any ideas?

Try Digikey L206-ND and L205-ND

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Joerg]

Try Digikey L206-ND and L205-ND

Thanks, Spehro, I was eyeing the L210-ND and will order those if I can't
find anything better. They are somewhat acceptable but it's not the
finger-snap lid from the good old days, and probably not tin-plated
either. Those used to provide a nice RF seal all around. With the Heeger
boxes you can only solder it in and then it is a bear to remove. It's
possible with a Weller 100/140W gun but messy.

 

[Ecnerwal]

Hello Folks,

Have to build a few filter protos for a client, looking for RF boxes,
something like 1.5" by 3" and 1" high. ....
It should be tin-plated steel with a finger-snap lid, the usual, RF guys

Buy a can of Altoids? Not quite the same dimensions, but close.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

Buy a can of Altoids? Not quite the same dimensions, but close.

Curiously thin metal, though.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[rex]

It should be tin-plated steel with a finger-snap lid, the usual, RF guys
know what I mean.

I'm an RF enthusiast, not professional, I've hacked and adapted lots of
stuff but I can't say I can identify this from the description. I have a
mental image that may be correct but not like anything I've seen on any
shelf. Sounds like you were sitting on a local gold mine with that
store. Do you have anything left around that you could take a picture of
and post to the binaries group?

 

[mw]

Hello Folks,

Have to build a few filter protos for a client, looking for RF boxes,
something like 1.5" by 3" and 1" high. Ran out of stock, finally. What
are they called these days? Couldn't find any on Digikey or Mouser. I
used to get them by the boat load at the next electronics store for a
few bucks but those all vanished.

It should be tin-plated steel with a finger-snap lid, the usual, RF guys
know what I mean. Not the die cast ones and definitely no aluminum. Best
from a place like Digikey where I can order all the other stuff as well.
Any ideas?

Ideas:

Can you use a regular box plus a gasket like the ones here?

http://www.tech-etch.com/

Or seal it with one of these methods:

http://www.parker.com/chomerics/tech/shielding_methods.htm#types

mw

 

[Radiosrfun]

Ideas:

Can you use a regular box plus a gasket like the ones here?

http://www.tech-etch.com/

Or seal it with one of these methods:

http://www.parker.com/chomerics/tech/shielding_methods.htm#types

mw

There is a company - "BUD"? Have you checked them or their products - out? I
know some of their products were used in the past - in construction
articles - for items such as tuners, band pass/reject, TVI filters and so
on.

From their website:

Bud Industries is the United State's leading manufacturer of standard
electronic enclosures and custom electronic enclosures.

http://www.budind.com/

They have an online catalog - and a distributor "finder" list as well as
other information.

 

[Joerg]

Buy a can of Altoids? Not quite the same dimensions, but close.

Seriously, I was canvassing the garage for a can that a uC programming
adapter came in. Gone :-(

And we don't eat Altoids, so no luck there. Buying one would be an
option but then I'd have to eat them all and that leads to a whole
'nother problem half an hour later.

 

[Joerg]

I'm an RF enthusiast, not professional, I've hacked and adapted lots of
stuff but I can't say I can identify this from the description. I have a
mental image that may be correct but not like anything I've seen on any
shelf. Sounds like you were sitting on a local gold mine with that
store. Do you have anything left around that you could take a picture of
and post to the binaries group?

I could but I'd have to pry the last one out of a unit though so the
camera can catch it. Basically it looks like an oversized TV-tuner, with
a lid that has dozens of contact fingers so tight that you need a tool
to pry it off (or break fingernails).

It used to be no problem to buy them at electronics stores except that
the last one in this area has now vanished. It became a, gasp, cell
phone shop :-(

 

[Joerg]

There is a company - "BUD"? Have you checked them or their products - out? I
know some of their products were used in the past - in construction
articles - for items such as tuners, band pass/reject, TVI filters and so
on.

From their website:

Bud Industries is the United State's leading manufacturer of standard
electronic enclosures and custom electronic enclosures.

http://www.budind.com/

Link times out but I'll keep looking. Thanks.

They have an online catalog - and a distributor "finder" list as well as
other information.

I wonder why Digikey doesn't have any. I remember even being able to buy
this stuff at radio shack. "RF project box" or something like that. Ok,
they cost a lot more than at the large places but in a pinch this was so
great.

 

[Joerg]

Ideas:

Can you use a regular box plus a gasket like the ones here?

http://www.tech-etch.com/

Or seal it with one of these methods:

http://www.parker.com/chomerics/tech/shielding_methods.htm#types

Sure but I am not a fan of beryllium-copper. Also, I'd still need to
find a metal box for that and it can't be aluminum or die cast because
that wouldn't yield good long term contacting. And if I found a tin box
sans fingers I could also just solder 6-8 spots of the lid and it'll be
fine.

 

[Radiosrfun]

Link times out but I'll keep looking. Thanks.



I wonder why Digikey doesn't have any. I remember even being able to buy
this stuff at radio shack. "RF project box" or something like that. Ok,
they cost a lot more than at the large places but in a pinch this was so
great.

I can't speak for all "Radio Shacks" but I think some still have
them.......... The question is, is it the size "you" need?

L.

 

[Joerg]

I can't speak for all "Radio Shacks" but I think some still have
them.......... The question is, is it the size "you" need?

They only had the larger ones but that would be fine. Problem is, Radio
Shacks around here seem to die like flies, their web site is next to
useless and the stores we still have here are smallish in their
assortment. Growing in the cell phone and MP3 aisle, shrinking parts corner.

 

[Rich Grise]

Seriously, I was canvassing the garage for a can that a uC programming
adapter came in. Gone :-(

And we don't eat Altoids, so no luck there. Buying one would be an
option but then I'd have to eat them all and that leads to a whole
'nother problem half an hour later.

Just put them in a bowl and hand them out to the kids at Halloween. ;-)

A couple of years ago, I bought a pack of "Camel Turkish Jade" cigarettes,
and they came in a metal tin much like the altoids', but big enough for
two rows of 10 cigarettes, and the corners radiused at about 1/8". Haven't
got around to figuring out what I want to use it for yet...

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

.

And we don't eat Altoids, so no luck there. Buying one would be an
option but then I'd have to eat them all and that leads to a whole
'nother problem half an hour later.

Here's the box I was talking about in my other followup:
http://mysite.verizon.net/richgrise/images/CamelJade2.jpg
It's almost exactly 1/2" thick.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

Sure but I am not a fan of beryllium-copper. Also, I'd still need to
find a metal box for that and it can't be aluminum or die cast because
that wouldn't yield good long term contacting. And if I found a tin box
sans fingers I could also just solder 6-8 spots of the lid and it'll be
fine.

If you're not afraid to solder, why not just get a flat piece of tinplate,
(tin-plated sheet steel), a bender of some kind (small bench vise?) and
make one?

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[Radiosrfun]

They only had the larger ones but that would be fine. Problem is, Radio
Shacks around here seem to die like flies, their web site is next to
useless and the stores we still have here are smallish in their
assortment. Growing in the cell phone and MP3 aisle, shrinking parts
corner.

<sigh> You're so right............ Ah the good ole days. When we had - at
least around here - Olson Electronics, Heathkit, Lafayette Radio
Electronics, Radio Shack and countless others to go to. And at that - an
"educated" person in the craft - to assist.

 

[Joerg]

Here's the box I was talking about in my other followup:
http://mysite.verizon.net/richgrise/images/CamelJade2.jpg
It's almost exactly 1/2" thick.

Must have been some tasty smokes ;-)

 

[Joerg]

If you're not afraid to solder, why not just get a flat piece of tinplate,
(tin-plated sheet steel), a bender of some kind (small bench vise?) and
make one?

Done that, many times. But after the umpteenth broken scroll saw blade
that gets old. I've got grandpa's old hand brake to bend the corners,
looks almost professional. When I want to be extra good and made a
copper box I give it a nice spit shine (but on my own time, not the
client's). I lucked out in finding two tubes of Wenol polishing paste at
a kitchen store, bought both of them that very millisecond.