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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Such arrogance to think that humanity's yet puny works can attract
the attention of anybody beyond the earth-moon complex.

"earth-moon complex"? With people like you around, making up retarded
monikers like that, it is no wonder.
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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JosephKK said:
AwlSome Auger wrote:
[...]
One crucial thing they failed to do: Talk to thy small-biz clients. Case
in point are guys like me. When someone buys a small product from IBM
that is obviously going to be used in a small-biz setting but then there
aren't any other sales (such as PCs, OS licenses, more software) that
would be an excellent opportunity to have a chat with this customer. To
find out why that is so. But nobody every called. "Didn't know" does not
count because back then nearly everything in the computer world required
mailing in registration cards. So they had the names and phone numbers
right there.

That kind of pre-supposes that most, or even a reasonable portion ever
sent in the registration cards. That apparently did not happen.


Business users tend to register their SW. They have to, for support
reasons alone. My clients do, my employers did, I do.
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
Jim Thompson wrote:
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The others they make:

http://www.twinind.com/catalog.php?id=7#sc30
Nice! Just what I've been looking for my "G-jobs" ;-)
What's a G-job? "G" as in grunt work?

Stuffing dollars into the stripper's G-string? ;-D

Ah, I see, you've been to such etablissement :))

In the mid-1970's, the guys at the company used to go out
to lunch at some restaurant where they had a "lingerie show"
- the gals would wander around amongst the tables in lingerie,
and you could literally buy the garment right off the girl.
By the end of lunch, they were all in nothing but underpants.

And cash, of course. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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JosephKK said:
AwlSome Auger wrote:
[...]
IBM simply tried to apply a bigger business model to a business niche
that required a different mindset that had not as yet been developed in
the business world.

One crucial thing they failed to do: Talk to thy small-biz clients. Case
in point are guys like me. When someone buys a small product from IBM
that is obviously going to be used in a small-biz setting but then there
aren't any other sales (such as PCs, OS licenses, more software) that
would be an excellent opportunity to have a chat with this customer. To
find out why that is so. But nobody every called. "Didn't know" does not
count because back then nearly everything in the computer world required
mailing in registration cards. So they had the names and phone numbers
right there.

That kind of pre-supposes that most, or even a reasonable portion ever
sent in the registration cards. That apparently did not happen.


Business users tend to register their SW. They have to, for support
reasons alone. My clients do, my employers did, I do.

Support? Surely you jest!
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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What, you don't think those guys at eMachines are going to be able to help you
troubleshoot a RAID 5 configuration problem? :)

I've often been curious as to whether or not Microsoft's support for owners of
the "full retail" packages of Windows is much better than what you get from
Dell, Gateway, etc. (I haven't owned a full retail package since Win98
though.)

Not from what I'm told, and it costs real money to call M$ to get no
help.
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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krw said:
JosephKK said:
AwlSome Auger wrote: [...]

IBM simply tried to apply a bigger business model to a business niche
that required a different mindset that had not as yet been developed in
the business world.
One crucial thing they failed to do: Talk to thy small-biz clients. Case
in point are guys like me. When someone buys a small product from IBM
that is obviously going to be used in a small-biz setting but then there
aren't any other sales (such as PCs, OS licenses, more software) that
would be an excellent opportunity to have a chat with this customer. To
find out why that is so. But nobody every called. "Didn't know" does not
count because back then nearly everything in the computer world required
mailing in registration cards. So they had the names and phone numbers
right there.
That kind of pre-supposes that most, or even a reasonable portion ever
sent in the registration cards. That apparently did not happen.

Business users tend to register their SW. They have to, for support
reasons alone. My clients do, my employers did, I do.

Support? Surely you jest!

Actually, I've seen some surprises there. For example getting an email
that a new graphics card driver had come out, for a PC that was way past
support plan. Install it, and the graphics card turned into a rocket.
Woohoo ...
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Joel said:
What, you don't think those guys at eMachines are going to be able to help you
troubleshoot a RAID 5 configuration problem? :)

I've often been curious as to whether or not Microsoft's support for owners of
the "full retail" packages of Windows is much better than what you get from
Dell, Gateway, etc. (I haven't owned a full retail package since Win98
though.)

Dell got me out of a serious pickle once. Laptop hung, very hardcore,
after some RF "experiment" that got too close to it. The gal had a
fairly thick India accent but she sure knew how these computers worked
and within about 15 minutes we had it running (I really needed the
laptop right then).
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Dell got me out of a serious pickle once. Laptop hung, very hardcore,
after some RF "experiment" that got too close to it. The gal had a
fairly thick India accent but she sure knew how these computers worked
and within about 15 minutes we had it running (I really needed the
laptop right then).

IBM (Lenovo's service) has done similar things for me. They also do a
great job with depot repairs. I've had my laptop returned to me in
less than 72 hours. They have an Atlanta accent. ;-)

M$, not so much. They require a credit card just to talk to someone
who knows nothing but what's on the script.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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krw said:
JosephKK wrote:
AwlSome Auger wrote:
[...]

IBM simply tried to apply a bigger business model to a business niche
that required a different mindset that had not as yet been developed in
the business world.
One crucial thing they failed to do: Talk to thy small-biz clients. Case
in point are guys like me. When someone buys a small product from IBM
that is obviously going to be used in a small-biz setting but then there
aren't any other sales (such as PCs, OS licenses, more software) that
would be an excellent opportunity to have a chat with this customer. To
find out why that is so. But nobody every called. "Didn't know" does not
count because back then nearly everything in the computer world required
mailing in registration cards. So they had the names and phone numbers
right there.
That kind of pre-supposes that most, or even a reasonable portion ever
sent in the registration cards. That apparently did not happen.

Business users tend to register their SW. They have to, for support
reasons alone. My clients do, my employers did, I do.

Support? Surely you jest!

Actually, I've seen some surprises there. For example getting an email
that a new graphics card driver had come out, for a PC that was way past
support plan. Install it, and the graphics card turned into a rocket.
Woohoo ...

I had a big surprise last night. I had some leaking windows (that
turned out to be a PITA, no surprise here) and the moron they sent out
to fix them broke our hose reel. He dragged it across the deck on its
side, snapping the crank off at the root. I looked on the reel for a
name (Ames) and did a web search. Their site had a prominent link for
parts which led to a simple exploded diagram and parts checklist for
ordering. The "place order" link led to the shipping information, So
far, all is expected. The next link was a "thank you, your parts will
be shipped soon". *NO CHARGE*, not even shipping. All this done by a
company that sells $50 plastic stuff through Home Despot! There was a
request for only one order per household, which is understandable. I
suppose some freak would try to go into business...
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Is it still the deal where you're required to enter a CC number to talk to
someone, but you're told your card won't be charged if it turns out your
"issue" really is something within the bounds of the support that's included
when you purchased the full retail copy of Windows?

Probably. When was the last time anyone bought a full license?
Certainly a good way to scare off people who aren't completely certain where
their problem lies...

Yep. They don't have to service their products; they're M$. Tomorrow
health care will be the same.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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I think some "enthusiasts" who tend to re-install the OS on a sometimes
monthly or even weekly basis do, as they rotate through different video cards,
motherboards, etc. do. The price is something like 2-3 times that of the
"system builder" version (in quantities of 1), and some people find paying
that premium preferable to repeated over-the-phone Windows activations (which
you have to do after just a couple of over-the-Internet activations, since of
course they think you're a pirate), trying to figure out just which components
you can change and still have the license apply (e.g., with an OEM license, I
think the motherboard has to be replaced by an identical model or the license
is invalidated... although there are exceptions if your motherboard dies and
the original model is no longer being manufactured), etc.

It's a quagmire.

Borderline extortion, really. :)

Probably well under 1% of all copies of Windows sold, though.


No, no, it'll be more like the hour+ wait you get with some technical support
lines... they can advertise 24/7 "free" health care, but they're really hoping
you'll just give up and go away, and then it's not their "fault" if you end up
dead from some readily curable ailment.

There are plenty of good arguments why socialized medicine is a bad idea, but
I am surprised that those who oppose it often start out with the "your heatlh
care will be rationed!" argument: While absolutely true, how many people
currently *don't* have rationed health care? Almost none, I'd say -- it's
just that the rationing agent is some private insurance company rather than
the government.
When it's the government, there is no choice. I can (and did) vote
with my feet and find another state to live in. I can always find a
different insurance company, even if I have to find another job. There
is only one Fed and they now know everything about you and control
every move.
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Joel Koltner wrote:

[...]
There are plenty of good arguments why socialized medicine is a bad idea, but
I am surprised that those who oppose it often start out with the "your heatlh
care will be rationed!" argument: While absolutely true, how many people
currently *don't* have rationed health care? Almost none, I'd say -- it's
just that the rationing agent is some private insurance company rather than
the government.

As Keith said it'll take away the choice. If a single-payer system says
this or that ain't covered then that's the end of the rope. Only choice
will be to travel overseas where it's affordable and do it there.
Meaning top care only for top earners. That's what lots of people do in
Europe. They travel to Hungary, Poland etc.

OTOH, looking at the yearly rate hikes of 10-20% I (as a conservative)
must conclude that our current health care "system" is quite out of control.
 
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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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krw said:
IBM (Lenovo's service) has done similar things for me. They also do a
great job with depot repairs. I've had my laptop returned to me in
less than 72 hours. They have an Atlanta accent. ;-)

Well, Jawjah is really close to where you live :)

M$, not so much. They require a credit card just to talk to someone
who knows nothing but what's on the script.


Personally, I wouldn't buy anything from MS that needs support. Only the
mundane stuff.
 
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UltimatePatriot

Jan 1, 1970
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Probably. When was the last time anyone bought a full license?

You're an idiot.
Yep. They don't have to service their products; they're M$. Tomorrow
health care will be the same.

And dopes like you are to blame for it.
 
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Jupiter Jaq

Jan 1, 1970
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I
think the motherboard has to be replaced by an identical model or the license
is invalidated...


It amazes me when an MS hater like you makes shit up to explain your
failures.

You can change ANY component of your computer, and NO change
"invalidates" your license. on ANY version of Windows.

Use a little common sense, ya dope.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Obama likes to claim differently (that private heatlh care plans will still be
around), but it does seem that the actual wording of some of the legislation
attempts to remove a lot of "choice," at least long-term as private insurers
slowly die off.


Valid point, although a lot of people don't have quite that flexibility -- if
you're a relatively low-skilled worker, and have some chronic disease (aka,
"pre-existing condition"), it can be nearly impossible to find another job
where your condition will be covered. A government-run system will at least
address that problem (even though, yes, it will surely create plenty of new
ones in its place too).

I suppose that if one doesn't like the impending U.S. health care system they
could try to move to Canada, the U.K., or Oz? :)

Personally I'm willing to take a "wait and see" attitude with the Obama plan.
It is insanely expensive, it will create plenty of new problems, it won't work
for everyone... but it just might fix more problems overall than it causes,
and possibly even do so at a lower overall cost per capita than what we're
spending now. I'm not at all completely confident about this, though -- feel
free to tell me, "I told you so" in a couple of years...

---Joel

I've been reviewing my options... I could become a hero of the Soviet
Union, or better still, go to Israel... I've already done designs for
GOI-MOD (Government of Israel, Ministry of Defense).

...Jim Thompson
--
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Lord protect me from fascist Democrats, perverts, & Prius Drivers!
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Hmm... I'd definitely go to Israel -- the weather is better. :)

Don't write off Oz or New Zealand though -- pretty nice places, and even today
the U.S. dollar still goes further in terms of purchasing real property,
paying wages, etc.

Parts of Oz might just remind you of Phoenix, even. :)
Yep. I have a client in Adelaide, and a potential client in Auckland.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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Hmm... I'd definitely go to Israel -- the weather is better. :)

Don't write off Oz or New Zealand though -- pretty nice places, and even today
the U.S. dollar still goes further in terms of purchasing real property,
paying wages, etc.

Parts of Oz might just remind you of Phoenix, even. :)

Each of those three countries has had publicly-funded
(AmE: "socialized") medical care for ages, of course.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Yeah, but as Jim points out, he's already on the dole in this country for most
of his health care. :)

Yep. I've been on Medicare since August 2004. But I also pay extra
for parts B & D, and a supplemental.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
 
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