John said:
I WAS responding to another post about VS, but their post was over a
month old so I had to start a new thread.
Personally I dont want to argue about stupid spice programs, you
people use anything you want, what do I care. All I did was post an
opinion, yes I admit it did sound like SPAM, so what, maybe they'll
give me a commission for it
I need the money for a new computer
anyway.
Is that SPAM?
Of course not, you invited a response by posting in ther first place.
Spam is unsolicited
Using every excuse to push your product while bashing
competing products. But I cant blame you, it's just marketing right?
he he he.
Indeed.
I design circuits for a living also, but I dont have 20 years
experience, why do I need it, I'm not designing with vacuum tubes.
Typical engineer thinks he knows more than everybody else, and only
his opinion is the right one.
Indeed.
Of course YOUR program is the ONLY usable program in the world.
No. I think PSpice is reasonable, just too expensive. I also think
Cadence Analog Artist is pretty good. LTSpice is also usable, but a bit
too cryptic for me, but for personal use, on limited funds, if SS didn't
exist, it would be a contender. However, EWB/CM/VS etc are all quite
useless, in my view.
But I
tried yours and I couldnt get it to do anything because it was too
slow even if it was the only thing running.
What system are you using? I admit that it is thirsty resource wise. You
want at least 256M and > 400Mhz uP. I use it with a 1Ghz with 512M, and
I don't notice any problems in GUI speed at all. Note that anything
below XP/NT is crap.
Honest bible truth, I clicked on a menu item in SuperSpice and it took
like a minute before the menu poped up. The hard drive started going
like mad each time I tried to pick something from the menu. Are you
creating the menu in real-time on the fly each time you try to click
on it? why?
Nope. As noted above, I don't have this problem on my system, and I
don't get many complaints on this, if any. When was the last time you
defragged?
As noted above, are you running XP/NT, if not. Do so. Anything else, is
not viable today. Systems below this have a total GUI resource limit of
64k for all processes running.
I had to start plannng ahead of time what menu item I'm gonna click
next because if I made a mistake I would have to go eat a sandwich
while waiting for the correct menu to come up. It reminded me of the
time I tried using the Protel demo, unbelivable, you need a 3Gz
machine for that thing.
There is obviously something not right in the system set-up.
But SuperSpice could be a nice program, but I could not give it a
good try because of the speed problem. If you get that fixed maybe I
could try it again. It looks identical to VS, so maybe it's good.
It works way better than VS, and is no way identical. It is designed for
real work. Once you can actually run it ok on a decent set-up system, it
will be plainly apparent.
I
think you programmers are copying each other.
Wow no way, but a windows GUI, by its nature has similar features. I had
never even heard of VS, when I started SS. I was aware of its crap
precursor though.
I tried Electronic Workbench, forget that one, you need a 3Gz dual
processor machine to boot that one up.
Rubbish. EWB technically runs fine on most systems. Its crap in actual
use though.
PSPICE was ok but I gotta run
three programs to get a simulation.
Its a bit messy, but not a big issue.
CircuitMaker was ok, but the
interface was clunky old pre Windows 3.1 style and cost $1000. Beige
Bag B2 Spice was ok but clunky interface also.
They are all basically the same under the hood, because they all use
the exact same SPICE engine from berkeley and then add some fluff to
"pretty it up". Then charge you a lot of money depending on how pretty
it is.
Simetrix has extensively modified core code, so they are not all the
same.
I don't actually charge for my port of the engine itself. You can use
the demo installed engine standalone, with unrestricted features, with
text input and output.
Ah... I have now read the next post by Active8, and it does seem that
indeed you are a spamer from Island logic, the vendor of VS.
Interestingly, the first time I tried VS, it failed by using up all GUI
resources because of all those bloody GUI buttoned toolbars.
Kevin Aylward
[email protected]
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
