[Spehro Pefhany]

There is Tahoe Area Regional Transit.

John

PHoenix Area Rapid Transit

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Jim Thompson]

PHoenix Area Rapid Transit

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Damn! You beat me to it while I was out getting scheduled for hip
replacement. Phil's Folly... light rail... trains to no where ;-)

...Jim Thompson

 

[Don Lancaster]

There is Tahoe Area Regional Transit.

John

Two real government agencies go by the name of SCAT (San Carlos Apache
Tribes) and CACA (Carlsbad Caverns National Park.)

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Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
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Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

 

[Richard The Dreaded Libertarian]

John Larkin wrote:

I'm soooo tired of seeing entire blocks of cars that are all grey and silver
and black.

Yes, they're very bland / boring. I've had a couple that are 'silverish' but
still have some colour in them. One was called 'platinum', my neighbour called
it 'oyster'. It was very nice.

The closer the color of the car is to the color of the pavement[1], the
less likely you are to get a ticket.

And the more likely you are to get killed.

Depending on how much of the responsibility for your own safety you choose
to delegate to the idiots.

A lot of these cars are
absolutely asphalt colored, practically impossible to see.

That's irrelevant, if the nut behind the wheel has the presence of mind
and observational wherewithal to avoid driving into stuff.
http://mysite.verizon.net/richgrise/images/Safe-Car.gif

Individual Freeom implies individual self-responsibility.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[James Arthur]

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:15:25 -0700, James Arthur

<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi, James,

Have you noticed the remarkable, virtually worldwide, correlation of
anti-Americanism with engineering incompetance? It makes sense when
you think about it.

John

Hola John,

a) Hollywood and the press don't help. Once America-boosters, now
they're against. Marketing works.

b) Corrupt governments seem to be the leading cause of world
poverty, and f(l)ailing governments love to blame external parties for
their failings. Big as we are, we're awfully convenient.

c) I think it all goes back to global warming, truthfully. The
President diss'd Kyoto, our European friends felt slighted, and, ever
since, he can't win.

Mr. Clinton was more diplomatic: he paid Kyoto lip service, but
never submitted it to the Senate since--with 95 senators opposed--he
knew it wasn't ratifiable.

Meanwhile, the US' total CO2 output fell last year. Has anyone
noticed? I thought not.

Cheers,
James Arthur

"Life is a comedy to the man who thinks and a tragedy to the man who
feels." --Horace Walpole

 

[Eeyore]

Better yet, put little hitches on the cable cars where for a fee, you
can get a tow up the hill(s). That moves the pollution to the power plant. ;-)

When I moved to So. Cal this last time, everybody recommended I get an
apartment "on the hill" in San Pedro. It took me three times going up
the hill to figure out why I didn't want to live on the hill - I want
my brakes and CV joints to last more than 3000 miles! ;-)

For a second I thought you were going to say you wanted your 'human joints' to
last more than 3000 mi !

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Of course, it always raises the question, "Where does the hydrogen come
from in the first place?"

Mainly from fossil fuels at present actually.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Thirty-two thousand. Why do you ask? Is the math too hard?

I think it's 38,540 in a British ton but I'm no longer sure of the numbers.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

John Larkin wrote:

I'm soooo tired of seeing entire blocks of cars that are all grey and silver
and black.

Yes, they're very bland / boring. I've had a couple that are 'silverish' but
still have some colour in them. One was called 'platinum', my neighbour called
it 'oyster'. It was very nice.

The closer the color of the car is to the color of the pavement[1], the
less likely you are to get a ticket.

And the more likely you are to get killed. A lot of these cars are
absolutely asphalt colored, practically impossible to see.

That caught me out once. I was stationary at the time but a car that was 'pavement
coloured' hit me. If I'd seen it earlier I could have taken some evasive action.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Meanwhile, the US' total CO2 output fell last year. Has anyone
noticed? I thought not.

Obviously since it's not something that can result in increased fear and alarm,
the meeja won't be interested.

Do you have a link for that ?

Graham

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

On Aug 8, 5:49 am, Eeyore <[email protected]>
wrote: [snip]

**** THE BLOODY USA

The best thing to do would be to erase all you ignorant fatties from the planet.

Graham

a) Could you please leave the non-bloody, lean portions? Thanks--
we're using them.

b) Remember that measurement system you left here a few centuries
ago? It seems the kids have gotten into it. Rather awkward, really.
We'll have it ready for pickup though...ANY time. PLEASE!

Cheers,
James Arthur

It is so sad. I just realized that Eeyore must be posting from a
mental institution ;-)

Too bad it isn't a glue factory.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Hi, James,

Have you noticed the remarkable, virtually worldwide, correlation of
anti-Americanism with engineering incompetance? It makes sense when
you think about it.

Them that can, do, those who can't, blather.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:15:25 -0700, James Arthur


On Aug 8, 5:49 am, Eeyore <[email protected]>
wrote:

[snip]

**** THE BLOODY USA

The best thing to do would be to erase all you ignorant fatties from the planet.

Graham

a) Could you please leave the non-bloody, lean portions? Thanks--
we're using them.

b) Remember that measurement system you left here a few centuries
ago? It seems the kids have gotten into it. Rather awkward, really.
We'll have it ready for pickup though...ANY time. PLEASE!

Cheers,
James Arthur


It is so sad. I just realized that Eeyore must be posting from a
mental institution ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Couldn't you tell by the crayons?

For me, the tip-off was the smeared fecal matter.

What else did you expect? He is an ASS, after all.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[RichD]

Shockingly expensive. $75,000 per vehicle just for batteries.
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/07/altair_nanotech.html

Expensive, who cares? We're talking about the
ENVIRONMENT, we can't worry about filty lucre.
What are you, a greedy Republican?

Let the gov't fund it, won't cost a farthing! That's
why we need visionaries like Al Gore, bold men
not afraid to take on the special interests, leading
by example.

 

[Eeyore]

Expensive, who cares? We're talking about the
ENVIRONMENT, we can't worry about filty lucre.
What are you, a greedy Republican?

Let the gov't fund it, won't cost a farthing! That's
why we need visionaries like Al Gore, bold men
not afraid to take on the special interests, leading
by example.

LOL !

Al Gore is going to look such an idiot in a couple of years.

Graham

 

[Paul Cardinale]

LOL !

Al Gore is going to look such an idiot in a couple of years.

And in that time he'll make tons of money from his investments in
carbon-credit brokerage firms. He's not stupid; he's evil.

Paul Cardinale

 

[Eeyore]

And in that time he'll make tons of money from his investments in
carbon-credit brokerage firms. He's not stupid; he's evil.

I certainly can't disagree with that analysis.

Graham

 

[Richard Henry]

See page 2 of this:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/flash/flash.html

The numbers indicate that this measure is an indicator of a depressed
economy.

 

[RichD]

And in that time he'll make tons of money from his
investments in carbon-credit brokerage firms. He's not
stupid; he's evil.

He's a career pol, with limitless power lust,
as do they all. Does that necessarily equate
to evil?

 

[Robert Latest]

The F-line electric streetcars are 60 to almost 100 years old, and are
quiet and efficient.

Oh, I know them and I like them. But they're still a joke compared to any
modern electric streetcar system.

They suffer from the congestion downtown. And they cause the
congestion downtown.

An efficient, modern bus system doesn't cause congestion.

The existing electric busses scoot up hills that some fully-loaded
diesels can't climb.

I know; that's what I said. But those fifty-year-old buses are falling
apart, and no replacement is in sight. No-one makes buses, electric or
otherwise, that could negotiate some of those SF hills.

Sometimes diesel drivers ask the passengers to
get off and hike up the hill to meet him at the top.

That's pretty cute, but it is not an option of public transportation is to
be taken seriously.

Mind you, I love SF and pretty much all aspects of it. I've spent months
(cumulative) in that city and hope to continue to do so. I've ridden the
line 23 bus where the driver shouted something unintelligeble out of the
window across the street at every corner, until at some point I got it that
he shouted "I'm your 23" at the people waiting for the bus in the other
direction, meaning that they'd have to wait for this bus until he was on the
return trip. I asked him why that was, and he told me that two of the three
buses ahead of him had broken down during the day, and that the driver of
the third hadn't shown up for work that morning. Another time an electric
bus tried to overtake another one parked at a stop by inertia alone, lost
(of course) the overhead connection but "starved" in the lane next to the
other bus. He had to wait for a diesel bus to "bump" him from behind to get
back into the electrified line.

I was there on vacation visiting friends and enjoyed every minute of those
experiences. And I like the "MUNI" logo, too.

The Muni bus and streetcar service, however, is not a "system", it's a joke.
A transportation system must be reliable and punctual. It's no wonder that
most people on those buses look like they don't have to be at any particular
place at any particular time. In Germany you'll find a timetable at each
stop, and you can pretty much set your watch by the arrival of the buses or
trains. During rush hour of course they don't give exact times but just
something like, "each 3 minutes" or so.

That said, I must admit that much of SF, topographically speaking, is a hard
area for any large and heavy vehicle to navigate quickly and efficiently.

robert