The Electric Car

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Glen Walpert

Jan 1, 1970
0
Not outright failures in service, but "cracks have been found in the
turbine blades of the high pressure oxygen turbopump". He was talking
about the inherent deficiencies of top-down design vis-a-vis the
inaccessibility of certain critical parts.

It's interesting reading, lacking none of Feynman's customary clarity and
incisiveness, despite the fact that, by this time, he was dying, and knew
it.

Available at:

http://history.nasa.gov/rogersrep/v2appf.htm

Thanks, very interesting indeed. Great conclusions:
--------
"Official management, on the other hand, claims to believe the
probability of failure is a thousand times less. One reason for this
may be an attempt to assure the government of NASA perfection and
success in order to ensure the supply of funds. The other may be that
they sincerely believed it to be true, demonstrating an almost
incredible lack of communication between themselves and their working
engineers."
....
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
--------

<rant>
One often finds this sort of management disconnect from reality. I
think that the fault lies at least in part with the standard doctrine
at most if not all business schools, that it is not necessary to
understand a process in order to manage it. They point to the
possibility of getting bogged down details, doing the work rather than
managing it, and claim it is actually better not to understand the
details of how the process works. Just apply these management
principles and profits will be maximized, they say. No doubt some
managers have gotten bogged down with details, but far more often they
make bad decisions based on a failure to understand key issues.

The motivation for this teaching is pretty clear: hire only business
school grads for management positions is the actual self-serving
message; don't promote line personell from within no matter how much
they know about the business, you need an MBA!
</rant>
 
J

John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
0
Hot UF6 is pretty nasty, too. I read somewhere a long time ago that they
started building the Oak Ridge diffusion plant without any idea how to
make pump seals that would stand the stuff. Some guy called, IIRC, Judson
Swearingen came up with the goods just in time. D'you happen to know if
how it was done ever got declassified?

Just outside of Richland, Wa, in the Hanford nuclear reserve, clearly
visible from town, is a someday-to-be dismantled, huge spherical
liquid plutonium reactor.

John
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
0
Toyota is coming out with a Lithium-based car in the near future.

I think the first car to ever hit 100 MPH was electric.

There was a news segment done recently on an electric cycle, the
machine gets up to 150 MPH and does 0-60 in 1 second. That's pretty
violent acceleration, on par with fighter jets and rockets.

Roughly 3G. Must be hard on tires.

John
 
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Eric Gisin

Jan 1, 1970
0
Doubtful with lead-acid cells.
Roughly 3G. Must be hard on tires.
Above 1G any RWD vehicle will lift the front. 2G would be suicide.
 
B

bill

Jan 1, 1970
0
Roughly 3G. Must be hard on tires.

John

don 't think it can be done. that's a friction coefficient of *3*
that's just a little better than velcro!?!
 
J

JosephKK

Jan 1, 1970
0
bill [email protected] posted to sci.electronics.design:
don 't think it can be done. that's a friction coefficient of *3*
that's just a little better than velcro!?!

If your tires were actually transmitting all that torque, thing would
flip just after the front wheel left the ground.
 
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Glen Walpert

Jan 1, 1970
0
The Navy has an advantage in enforcing its safety rules. The
operators have an extreme incentive to maintaining safe operation and
safe equipment since they sleep in the plant.

You might think so, but boredom and complacency can set in even on a
submarine. The important differences are in plant construction,
operator training, and specific operational procedures.

I recall a reactor operator performance review something like "Joe
knows exactly what to do in any situation. Unfortunately he rarely
notices when a situation occurs."

Verifying that your operators know what to do and have a high
probability of recognizing the situation is not easy.
 
J

John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
0
don 't think it can be done. that's a friction coefficient of *3*
that's just a little better than velcro!?!

Dragsters exceed 3G's. They melt the tires, at which point the
coupling is viscous, not frictional, so the ground contact is no
longer the coupling limit.

There was a rocket, the Sprint I think, that hit mach 10 in 5 seconds.
The Hibex rocket hit about 400Gs.

John
 
K

krw

Jan 1, 1970
0
If i were a hard-ass i'd say why? haha.. What is your need to know?

I'm an engineer, unlike a few here apparently. I have a need to
know. It's not like patents are secret, or anything. Teaching *is*
the purpose of patents, after all.
The most sensitive aspect of IP is the PCT process for international
coverage since the US recognizes IP at the time of creation, and every
other nation on Earth recognizes at the time of patent.

By definition, if it's patented, as you claim, it is no longer a
secret. Again, the purpose of a patent is to teach, your floor.
So discussing technical details beyond what is actually issued - can
be a problem with US coverage that you want to take worldwide.

I didn't ask for anything beyond what is published, only the NUMBERS
OF WHAT YOU HAVE PUBLISHED. Sheesh, you are dense.
Just a point of order.

No, it really isn't. The point of order is that I made a simple and
reasonable request and you do nothing but dance.
One wonders why you could use uspto.gov search engine? If I've
cleverly concealed by identity by this asterly subtrefuge of calling
myself willie mookie, I don't know if I want to give you enough
information to penetrate it! haha.. Great minds that you are. lol.

So you're just a blowhard, like Guth.
Here is one published patent - which I've referred to elsewhere as
well

United States Patent 7,081,584
Mook July 25, 2006

I'll take a look when I can reach the Internet. Might just as well
give us a reading list.

There is considerably more on the way, and work is also patented, and
in the process of patent, that I've funded from outside vendors that
have resulted in patents and have had licensed to me - this approach
was taken so that the path isn't too easily followed by others, or
thwarted by those whom I have attracted negative attention.

A tad paranoid, aren't we?
But clearly there is enough out there to show that I'm serious about
this, and that I've built hardware and I'm in the process of putting
together major manufacturing. When we start shipping panels to
Indonesia to create the world's largest solar panel array - covering
360 sq km - from the world's largest panel production plant - making 1
sq km a day - a plant that every week makes more solar panels than
exist in the entire world today - then the US press may break down and
give us thekind of pointers you are looking for. haha..

No, clearly there is *NOT* enough "information out there" to show
that "you're serious about this". So far, we've only had your word
for it. That is not "information", however "out there" it may be.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
0
You spend too much time posting to this group to be doing anything
profitable.

I wonder the same about many of the posters here. ;-) I'm about a
week behind in my Usenet reading and I've cut the number of read
groups back by about 3/4. This work stuff is for the birds! ;-)
 
K

krw

Jan 1, 1970
0
Might have to do just that, as obviously this is all far too complex
for your pro big-energy and otherwise pro big-government head to deal
with, much less constructively contribute squat. At least Warren
Buffett knows a good future worthy investment when he sees one.

Wait just a minute! Aren't you a "big energy" wannabe? Do you hate
yourself too? I understand why, but am a bit surprised you admit it
in public.
 
F

Fred Abse

Jan 1, 1970
0
The motivation for this teaching is pretty clear: hire only business
school grads for management positions is the actual self-serving message;
don't promote line personell from within no matter how much they know
about the business, you need an MBA!

And we finish up with a generation or two of cookie-cutter managers who
don't know shit from Shinola.

And astronauts die.
 
B

BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
0
In sci.physics, Eeyore
<[email protected]>
wrote



More likely a catalyst in a piston affair to explosively
decompose it. Dunno how well that will work admittedly,
specially since impurities in the tank might cause it to
explosively decompose in the *tank*. However, given the
fuel source -- which is of course a major issue in itself
-- it might work.

Why of course it'll work. Why shouldn't it?

For accommodating each one of us American/westernised village idiots,
and without my even getting this rant into various personal
transportation, communications, lighting or HVAC considerations, it
unavoidably takes a lot of fossil crude oil, coal, natural gas and/or
even yellowcake derived energy in order to commercially produce,
transport, process, extra fancy package, further transport and
eventually distribute the vast bulk of our food, the majority of which
(50+% upon average) gets tossed out and/or disposed of for more than
one good or bad reason or another. It's often worse off on the sorts
of commercial/consumer inert goods that too often get hardly utilized
at all before they get discarded or stored at something that's costing
us more energy than they're worth, along with many of such inert items
being energy consumers to boot. Recycling is for the most part a
pathetic joke, as having been costing us more energy and subsequently
polluting in more ways than most of us can count, with only a few
exceptions to that rule that which simply does not make up for the
overall negative energy and subsequent pollution aspects of our all-
inclusive recycling package.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_oil_equivalent
1 barrel = 5.8e6 BTU @59°F equals 6.118e9 J, or about 1.7 MW.h
Figure at best roughly 50% efficiency, as that's worth 850 kw.h
If it were all going into your Hummer, figure 12.5% or 213 kw.h

Some of the folks I've worked for and of many others I know of
couldn't hardly survive on less than an equivalent barrel worth of
crude oil energy per hour. Go figure how their life style needs 168
fold as much energy as myself. In other words, we can use all the
spare hydro-electric, solar, wind, tidal and geothermal energy we can
get, plus He3 fusion if possible.
Willie.Moo/(aka William Mook)
Well I'm working on some synfuel plants right now. Once that is
underway I will do some acquisitions in the US. I am not seeking
outside investors or participation.

Synfuels such as h2o2 have been a done deal for better than a century
(H2O2 was discovered in 1818), that is unless there's no ongoing
incentive or honest considerations for the new and improved ICE of
dual fuel injected and of a one-cycle format that'll safely utilize
such an energy rich fluid as h2o2, along with a little conventional
fossil fuel or whatever other synfuel that'll create the absolute
minimum CO2 and zilch or zero NOx.

All other conventional ICEs that'll burn whatever fuel along with our
mostly N2 atmosphere are going to get relatively poor empg, as well as
keep polluting at maximum levels of CO2 and NOx, plus unavoidably
contributing many other nasty byproducts in their birth-to-grave (aka
all inclusive) energy cycle. Even utilizing H2+atmosphere is not
going to entirely save our badly failing environment that's going to
be continually getting hotter because of what the basic laws of
physics has to do with any planet having recently obtained such a
horrific mascon of a nearby moon, that's orbiting its mostly fluid
planet just fast enough as to keeping our inner planetology vary much
alive and geothermally kicking.

It seems the usenet anti-think-tank gauntlet of naysayism has been
well enough polished to see your self, and this faith-based cultism
that's in charge of keeping those mostly fossil fuels and yellowcake
as spendy as possible, is thereby in charge of keeping our environment
as polluted and every bit as lethal as possible, especially as we
merge ourselves into WWIII on behalf of surviving their mostly semitic
global energy domination quest.

Of one fairly recent contribution on behalf of the makings and
utilizing of h2o2: "Hydrogen Peroxide and Sugar"
http://www.americanenergyindependence.com/peroxide.html

Besides direct energy applied usage, there's lots of other nifty h2o2
applications that shouldn't go unnoticed, or under appreciated:
http://www.h2o2.com/intro/faq.html

In spite of what's being orchestrated and said about myself, I'm not
the actual messenger from hell that's suggesting plain old H2 or LH2
should ever be excluded, as obviously H2, LH2 and LOx are each good to
go as is, and as such should also be produced via clean energy along
with the energy storage likes of aluminum and magnesium as derived
from whatever's the cache of clean and renewable energy that's in
surplus. However, for the average end-user of liquid fuels for our
Hummers, SUVs and massive trucks that are typically 10X more macho/
overkill than necessary, is exactly where the usage of h2o2+fossil or
h2o2+synfuel becomes one of our most viable alternatives, especially
once all those birth-to-grave energy cards are turned face up.

The H2 fuel cell form of energy for personal and light commercial
transportation seems doable, although fairly complex, spendy as all
get out and still somewhat birth-to-grave polluting once those pesky
all-inclusive factors are taken fully into account. This doesn't in
any way interpret as meaning that we should not have such H2 fuel cell
powered cars, light SUV/trucks and even pocket utility grid modules of
such clean energy derived via H2 and atmosphere, because we most
certainly should. William Mook's planned use of H2 for extracting
fossil oil is obviously another direct application that's nothing but
a solid win-win for everyone's gipper, including mother nature's
gipper.

Of what we badly need is the likes of Mook's greatly improved
terrestrial base of solar derived energy (though also including the
likes of Buffett's wind, tidal and geothermal alternatives shouldn't
be excluded or much less banished) that'll fit rather nicely into our
future needs without their imposing too much land or ocean usage
that's otherwise needed as is. Mook's SBLs are clearly doable,
especially if those were given a moon tethered platform that'll reach
those SBLs safely to with 2r of mother Earth, as to safely operate
from. The problem seems that folks much like yourself do not actually
understand all that much of anything about our moon's L1, or much less
of what such tethered configurations have to offer. Wouldn't you
folks like to see this one in a fully interactive 3D simulation, such
as produced by yet another one of those spendy Google/NOVA animation
infomercial productions? (I most certainly would)
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
0
Speaking of nasty, in the 50's roughly, some power plants were built
using mercury as the working fluid.

As long as it's being safely contained, it's good to go.
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
0
Another thing you have no clue about, but it doesn't stop you from
posting your usual ignorant drivel.

The basic laws of physics and the best available science is drivel?
(do tell)

For accommodating each one of us American/westernised village idiots,
and without my even getting this rant into various personal
transportation, communications, lighting or HVAC considerations,
whereas it unavoidably takes a lot of fossil crude oil, coal, natural
gas and/or even yellowcake derived energy in order to commercially
produce, transport, process, extra fancy package, further transport
and eventually distribute the vast bulk of our food, the majority of
which (50+% upon average) gets tossed out and/or disposed of for more
than one good or bad reason or another. It's often worse off on the
sorts of commercial/consumer inert goods that too often get hardly
utilized at all before they get discarded or stored at something
that's costing us more energy than they're worth, along with many of
such inert items being energy consumers to boot. Recycling is for the
most part a pathetic joke, as having been costing us more energy and
subsequently polluting in more ways than most of us can count, with
only a few exceptions to that rule which simply does not make up for
the overall negative energy and subsequent pollution aspects of our
all-inclusive recycling package.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_oil_equivalent
1 barrel = 5.8e6 BTU @59°F equals 6.118e9 J, or about 1.7 MW.h
Figure at best roughly 50% efficiency, as that's worth 850 kw.h
If it were all going into your Hummer, figure 12.5% or 213 kw.h

Some of the folks I've worked for and of many others I know of
couldn't hardly survive on less than an equivalent barrel worth of
crude oil energy per hour. Go figure how their life style needs 168
fold as much energy as myself. In other words, we can use all the
spare hydro-electric, solar, wind, tidal and geothermal energy we can
get, plus He3 fusion if possible.
Willie.Moo/(aka William Mook)
Well I'm working on some synfuel plants right now. Once that is
underway I will do some acquisitions in the US. I am not seeking
outside investors or participation.

Synfuels such as h2o2 have been a done deal for better than a century
(H2O2 was discovered in 1818), that is unless there's no ongoing
incentive or honest considerations for the new and improved ICE of
dual fuel injected and of a one-cycle format that'll safely utilize
such an energy rich fluid as h2o2, along with a little conventional
fossil fuel or whatever other synfuel that'll create the absolute
minimum CO2 and zilch or zero NOx.

All other conventional ICEs that'll burn whatever fuel along with our
mostly N2 atmosphere are going to get relatively poor empg, as well as
keep polluting at maximum levels of CO2 and NOx, plus unavoidably
contributing many other nasty byproducts in their birth-to-grave (aka
all inclusive) energy cycle. Even utilizing H2+atmosphere is not
going to entirely save our badly failing environment that's going to
be continually getting hotter because of what the basic laws of
physics has to do with any planet having recently obtained such a
horrific mascon of a nearby moon, that's orbiting its mostly fluid
planet just fast enough as to keeping our inner planetology vary much
alive and geothermally kicking.

It seems the usenet anti-think-tank gauntlet of naysayism has been
well enough polished to see your self, and this faith-based cultism
that's in charge of keeping those mostly fossil fuels and yellowcake
as spendy as possible, is thereby in charge of keeping our environment
as polluted and every bit as lethal as possible, especially as we
merge ourselves into WWIII on behalf of surviving their mostly semitic
global energy domination quest.

Of one fairly recent contribution on behalf of the makings and
utilizing of h2o2: "Hydrogen Peroxide and Sugar"
http://www.americanenergyindependence.com/peroxide.html

Besides direct energy applied usage, there's lots of other nifty h2o2
applications that shouldn't go unnoticed, or under appreciated:
http://www.h2o2.com/intro/faq.html

In spite of what's being orchestrated and said about myself, I'm not
the actual messenger from hell that's suggesting plain old H2 or LH2
should ever be excluded, as obviously H2, LH2 and LOx are each good to
go as is, and as such should also be produced via clean energy along
with the energy storage likes of aluminum and magnesium as derived
from whatever's the cache of clean and renewable energy that's in
surplus. However, for the average end-user of liquid fuels for our
Hummers, SUVs and massive trucks that are typically 10X more macho/
overkill than necessary, is exactly where the usage of h2o2+fossil or
h2o2+synfuel becomes one of our most viable alternatives, especially
once all those birth-to-grave energy cards are turned face up.

The H2 fuel cell form of energy for personal and light commercial
transportation seems doable, although fairly complex, spendy as all
get out and still somewhat birth-to-grave polluting once those pesky
all-inclusive factors are taken fully into account. This doesn't in
any way interpret as meaning that we should not have such H2 fuel cell
powered cars, light SUV/trucks and even pocket utility grid modules of
such clean energy derived via H2 and atmosphere, because we most
certainly should. William Mook's planned use of H2 for extracting
fossil oil is obviously another direct application that's nothing but
a solid win-win for everyone's gipper, including mother nature's
gipper.

Of what we badly need is the likes of Mook's greatly improved
terrestrial base of solar derived energy (though also including the
likes of Buffett's wind, tidal and geothermal alternatives shouldn't
be excluded or much less banished) that'll fit rather nicely into our
future needs without their imposing too much land or ocean usage
that's otherwise needed as is. Mook's SBLs are clearly doable,
especially if those were given a moon tethered platform that'll reach
those SBLs safely to with 2r of mother Earth, as to safely operate
from. The problem seems that folks much like yourself do not actually
understand all that much of anything about our moon's L1, or much less
of what such tethered configurations have to offer. Wouldn't you
folks like to see this one in a fully interactive 3D simulation, such
as produced by yet another one of those spendy Google/NOVA animation
infomercial productions? (I most certainly would)
- Brad Guth -
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
0
BradGuth said:
The basic laws of physics and the best available science is drivel?
(do tell)


YAWN. Try to twist it all you want, loser. Every time you post, you
add proof of your ignoarnce, and inability to tell the truth.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
B

BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
0
Sounds like you have issues about money. Its impossible to make money
and not create value. That's what it means to make money. If you end
up with a lot of money in your pocket and have not created value, then
you are not a business person, you are a crook. That's the genius of
free-markets. All the exchanges are voluntary, so wealth is created
necessarily.

Our John Larken has issues with damn near everything under that sun
which orbits is semitic flat Earth, and then some.
- Brad Guth -
 
B

BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
0
Another thing you have no clue about, but it doesn't stop you from
posting your usual ignorant drivel.

The basic laws of physics and the best available science is drivel?
(do tell)

For accommodating each one of us American/westernised village idiots,
and without my even getting this rant into various personal
transportation, communications, lighting or HVAC considerations, it
unavoidably takes a lot of fossil crude oil, coal, natural gas and/or
even yellowcake derived energy in order to commercially produce,
transport, process, extra fancy package, further transport and
eventually distribute the vast bulk of our food, the majority of which
(50+% upon average) gets tossed out and/or disposed of for more than
one good or bad reason or another. It's often worse off on the sorts
of commercial/consumer inert goods that too often get hardly utilized
at all before they get discarded or stored at something that's costing
us more energy than they're worth, along with many of such inert items
being energy consumers to boot. Recycling is for the most part a
pathetic joke, as having been costing us more energy and subsequently
polluting in more ways than most of us can count, with only a few
exceptions to that rule that which simply does not make up for the
overall negative energy and subsequent pollution aspects of our all-
inclusive recycling package.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_oil_equivalent
1 barrel = 5.8e6 BTU @59°F equals 6.118e9 J, or about 1.7 MW.h
Figure at best roughly 50% efficiency, as that's worth 850 kw.h
If it were all going into your Hummer, figure 12.5% or 213 kw.h

Some of the folks I've worked for and of many others I know of
couldn't hardly survive on less than an equivalent barrel worth of
crude oil energy per hour. Go figure how their life style needs 168
fold as much energy as myself. In other words, we can use all the
spare hydro-electric, solar, wind, tidal and geothermal energy we can
get, plus He3 fusion if possible.
Willie.Moo/(aka William Mook)
Well I'm working on some synfuel plants right now. Once that is
underway I will do some acquisitions in the US. I am not seeking
outside investors or participation.

Synfuels such as h2o2 have been a done deal for better than a century
(H2O2 was discovered in 1818), that is unless there's no ongoing
incentive or honest considerations for the new and improved ICE of
dual fuel injected and of a one-cycle format that'll safely utilize
such an energy rich fluid as h2o2, along with a little conventional
fossil fuel or whatever other synfuel that'll create the absolute
minimum CO2 and zilch or zero NOx.

All other conventional ICEs that'll burn whatever fuel along with our
mostly N2 atmosphere are going to get relatively poor empg, as well as
keep polluting at maximum levels of CO2 and NOx, plus unavoidably
contributing many other nasty byproducts in their birth-to-grave (aka
all inclusive) energy cycle. Even utilizing H2+atmosphere is not
going to entirely save our badly failing environment that's going to
be continually getting hotter because of what the basic laws of
physics has to do with any planet having recently obtained such a
horrific mascon of a nearby moon, that's orbiting its mostly fluid
planet just fast enough as to keeping our inner planetology vary much
alive and geothermally kicking.

It seems the usenet anti-think-tank gauntlet of naysayism has been
well enough polished to see your self, and this faith-based cultism
that's in charge of keeping those mostly fossil fuels and yellowcake
as spendy as possible, is thereby in charge of keeping our environment
as polluted and every bit as lethal as possible, especially as we
merge ourselves into WWIII on behalf of surviving their mostly semitic
global energy domination quest.

Of one fairly recent contribution on behalf of the makings and
utilizing of h2o2: "Hydrogen Peroxide and Sugar"
http://www.americanenergyindependence.com/peroxide.html

Besides direct energy applied usage, there's lots of other nifty h2o2
applications that shouldn't go unnoticed, or under appreciated:
http://www.h2o2.com/intro/faq.html

In spite of what's being orchestrated and said about myself, I'm not
the actual messenger from hell that's suggesting plain old H2 or LH2
should ever be excluded, as obviously H2, LH2 and LOx are each good to
go as is, and as such should also be produced via clean energy along
with the energy storage likes of aluminum and magnesium as derived
from whatever's the cache of clean and renewable energy that's in
surplus. However, for the average end-user of liquid fuels for our
Hummers, SUVs and massive trucks that are typically 10X more macho/
overkill than necessary, is exactly where the usage of h2o2+fossil or
h2o2+synfuel becomes one of our most viable alternatives, especially
once all those birth-to-grave energy cards are turned face up.

The H2 fuel cell form of energy for personal and light commercial
transportation seems doable, although fairly complex, spendy as all
get out and still somewhat birth-to-grave polluting once those pesky
all-inclusive factors are taken fully into account. This doesn't in
any way interpret as meaning that we should not have such H2 fuel cell
powered cars, light SUV/trucks and even pocket utility grid modules of
such clean energy derived via H2 and atmosphere, because we most
certainly should. William Mook's planned use of H2 for extracting
fossil oil is obviously another direct application that's nothing but
a solid win-win for everyone's gipper, including mother nature's
gipper.

Of what we badly need is the likes of Mook's greatly improved
terrestrial base of solar derived energy (though also including the
likes of Buffett's wind, tidal and geothermal alternatives shouldn't
be excluded or much less banished) that'll fit rather nicely into our
future needs without their imposing too much land or ocean usage
that's otherwise needed as is. Mook's SBLs are clearly doable,
especially if those were given a moon tethered platform that'll reach
those SBLs safely to with 2r of mother Earth, as to safely operate
from. The problem seems that folks much like yourself do not actually
understand all that much of anything about our moon's L1, or much less
of what such tethered configurations have to offer. Wouldn't you
folks like to see this one in a fully interactive 3D simulation, such
as produced by yet another one of those spendy Google/NOVA animation
infomercial productions? (I most certainly would)
- Brad Guth -
 
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