hey thanks for that info Theatronics, but id like to get the thing working before going straight to the tesla coil, this is what my hand wound coil looked like around the flybacks, exposed ferrite coil did i do that right? after i did that, i built this dirver circuit http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/lab/5322/fbt2.htm And i connected put the red suction cup near the pins, and hooked it up to a car battery and nothing happened, then to a 6v and nothing happened still...what is the problem? i had better luck with my ignition coil which is this page http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/lab/5322/coildrv.htm if you can help me with that as well, it only makes sparks when ever i connect it to the battery, then when i disconnect it and reconnect it, it make another small short spark once reconnected....if my 555 times not pulsing or what?