Are long threads bad when I'm getting good results, I want to cascade the lm3914 im buying some LM3915's too I understand they're wired the same. my goal now is the last bit that I need, that is, how to hook up the envelope signal and virtual ground to cascaded bar graph LED's, in bar mode if you want to keep the thread short then just provide me with the answer and we will be done! new subject otherwise I'm going to have to keep muddling through and this site is a good resource, you guys are clever and I would bet my bottom dollar that you could give me the answer to my problem strait up! cheers