Black holes do reduce light in LEDs?

[Sam Wormley]

No, I mean gravity.
The time it takes say, from if you removed the sun,
to when the earth starts going on a tangent.

Remove the Sun (and its gravity) and you'll create
a gravitational WAVE... anr=d if GTR is correct, that
gravitational wave will propagate at c.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

Remove the Sun (and its gravity) and you'll create
a gravitational WAVE... anr=d if GTR is correct, that
gravitational wave will propagate at c.

Exactly.
But there is at least ONE problem with GTR
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html
Full circle.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

Removing a stone from a pond creates a void that
is filled by water rushing in (local field collapse).
Assuming that the pond is large (water volume and
surface area is large compared to the stone) the
resulting disturbance propagates outwards as waves.
Agreed

The field surrounding a static mass is static; It's
already everywhere. Remove a source by disappearing
a mass (thought experiment only!) and the field
collapses from that source location outwards at the
wave propagation speed.

Also agreed.

 

[Sam Wormley]

Exactly.
But there is at least ONE problem with GTR
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html
Full circle.

How so?

 

[Jan Panteltje]

START:
CASE WRONG:

STUFF:

REQUIRED FURTHER INVESTIGATION, EXIT SUBJECT

PRINT "OOPS,PROGRAM ERROR, L O O P"

POSTER WORMLEY DID NOT EXIT, BUT MAKES
STATEMENT:
DEFUSE STATEMENT
POSTER WORMLEY STILL NO EXIT

How so?

PRINT "WE ARE IN A LOOP, CHECK POSTER WORMLEY FOR ERROR."
GOTO START

 

[Richard Henry]

OK, there is Dark Energy pushing
in all directions.
Matter absorbs this energy in order to offset the energy
lost by the *movement of its atoms' constituent parts*
(movement requires energy no matter what
your 'science' tells you- even the movement of electrons and
protons).
This absorption causes a local sink around bodies of matter
that shelters other bodies from the Dark Energy coming
from that direction.

It is called the Le Sage Theory
of gravity.

Stupid?

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Interesting. Can you think of a way to prove that theory is "better"
then the current theory based on general relativity?

 

[Richard Henry]

Yes, among other things


If you removed a stone from that water,
then the water would fill up the empty space,
and would move towards were the stone was, at some speed.

The analogy is just that, an analogy, it does not hold.
Keep to the facts.


Sam mentioned waves, I merely mentioned gravity speed.
The example of removing the sun is clear enough I think.
So how long will it take before we notice on earth if
the sun was removed?
So what IS the speed of gravity?

About 8.3 minutes. I htthk we would be more concerned with the sudden
darkness and coldness.

How do you propose to remove the sun?

 

[malibu]

Interesting. Can you think of a way to prove that theory is "better"
then the current theory based on general relativity?

probably not.
But there *is* a way the matter can influence
itself- and that is if size is relative and open-ended and you can
show a repeating pattern of structure.

Take my atoms are galaxies concept, extend it indefinitely up and
down, and why not, there can be no smallest or largest structure
in an infinite universe- and you have repeating layers of energy
emanations
making up the structure itself. Then build in some
kind of *energy drafting*, standing wave, soldiers walking across
the bridge thing, and as long as complexity is held to be infinite,
you can have one level feed on the next and the next on the next
.................ad infinitum.

John
Galaxy Model for the Atom

 

[Richard Henry]

probably not.
But there *is* a way the matter can influence
itself- and that is if size is relative and open-ended and you can
show a repeating pattern of structure.

Take my atoms are galaxies concept, extend it indefinitely up and
down, and why not, there can be no smallest or largest structure
in an infinite universe- and you have repeating layers of energy
emanations
making up the structure itself. Then build in some
kind of *energy drafting*, standing wave, soldiers walking across
the bridge thing, and as long as complexity is held to be infinite,
you can have one level feed on the next and the next on the next
................ad infinitum.

So all you have is brain drool.

 

[malibu]

So all you have is brain drool.

No, let's compare my offerings to yours-
read what I say, then read what you say.

All *you* have offered is brain drool.
I've offered real ideas.

By the way, the above line
of thinking leads to the conclusion
that every point in space contains infinite energy.
I heard that somewhere else- where was it?

John

 

[Anakin Skywater]

An instant of selective memory Sam:
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html

So, if superconductivity happens, Cooper pairs form,
and if the electron is a black hole, then black hole pairs form,
and the motion of those black holes towards each other creates gravity waves,
waves that are observed exactly when that experiment goes super conductive?
Please reply fast,
Yours Truly
Anakin Skywater

 

[Jan Panteltje]

So, if superconductivity happens, Cooper pairs form,
and if the electron is a black hole, then black hole pairs form,
and the motion of those black holes towards each other creates gravity waves,
waves that are observed exactly when that experiment goes super conductive?
Please reply fast,
Yours Truly
Anakin Skywater

I dunno,
I have always wondered what our little friends the electrons are made up of,
and how they know where to move in those cicuits ;-)