Hardening outside phone line for alarm system

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Jeffrey J. Kosowsky

Jan 1, 1970
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alarman said:
Bill Unruh wrote

Where do you live, Hooterville??
js

Not sure what part of the above you are referring to, but in much of
the Northeast telephone wires come in on "telephone poles" and the
wire goes aerially to the drop on the side of the house...
 
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R.H.Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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Up here in Canada, we refer to "hydro" as the electrical plant

ie: "How much was our hydro bill this month...."

........or...........

"where does the hydro come in the house...."

And our power supplier is called Ottawa Hydro

RHC
 
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G. Morgan

Jan 1, 1970
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alt.security.alarms
Up here in Canada, we refer to "hydro" as the electrical plant

ie: "How much was our hydro bill this month...."

.......or...........

"where does the hydro come in the house...."

And our power supplier is called Ottawa Hydro


So what do you call water, electricity?

Hydro and electricity don't mix.....
 
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jackcsg

Jan 1, 1970
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R.H.Campbell said:
Up here in Canada, we refer to "hydro" as the electrical plant

ie: "How much was our hydro bill this month...."

.......or...........

"where does the hydro come in the house...."

And our power supplier is called Ottawa Hydro

RHC
How do they get the water in those little wires? What do yous guys call that
blue water in the crapper? Besides a good acid trip....
LOL

Jack
 
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R.H.Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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Damn ! For once I don't have a good come back....:)))...good one guy....:)))

RHC
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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G. Morgan said:
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So what do you call water, electricity?

Hydro and electricity don't mix.....

Keep digging that hole deeper.....
 
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jackcsg

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm even laughing to hard to rub it in....flush

Jack
 
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MC

Jan 1, 1970
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co-worker got woke a week ago by his neibor, someone had cut the neibors
phoneline an attempted to break in to a window. The husband was away on
business, I guess they may have though both were gone. Luckly she had a cell
phone and called 911 when she heard a noise outside.
 
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alarman

Jan 1, 1970
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Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote
Not sure what part of the above you are referring to, but in much of
the Northeast telephone wires come in on "telephone poles" and the
wire goes aerially to the drop on the side of the house...

I had this image of you climbing up the pole with a butt set to make phone
calls a la Green Acres.
js
 
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davefr

Jan 1, 1970
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That's easy. Disguise your NID by relocating it or burrying it in a
dry spot. Now setup a dummy NID with a very obvious phone line wire
going to it. Wire that dummy phone line to a zone on your alarm.

Burglar cuts what he thinks is a phone line and the alarm goes off.
Cheaper than radio or cellphone backup.

(An alternative is to wire the dummy phone line to 220V so the burglar
gets dead if he cuts it. Just make sure it's not a lineman for the
phone company.)
 
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Bill Unruh

Jan 1, 1970
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[email protected] (davefr) writes:

]That's easy. Disguise your NID by relocating it or burrying it in a
]dry spot. Now setup a dummy NID with a very obvious phone line wire
]going to it. Wire that dummy phone line to a zone on your alarm.

As has been said often, in many places phone lines are above ground and run
to telephone or hydro poles. Ie, a dummy is very very easy to see-- it does
not run up the telephone pole. And the line is outside and possible to get
at. The run down the house is hideable-- eg inside the walls (although the
telco is going to be loath to do that-- the line is continuous from the
pole to inside the house usually.
And if an attacker really wants to they could use a tree trimmer with a
long pole to just cut the line, even if it is 15 ft above ground.

]Burglar cuts what he thinks is a phone line and the alarm goes off.
]Cheaper than radio or cellphone backup.

Burglar follows line from telephone pole to house and knows which it the
right line.


](An alternative is to wire the dummy phone line to 220V so the burglar
]gets dead if he cuts it. Just make sure it's not a lineman for the
]phone company.)

And you get charged with premeditatied murder.


][email protected] (Jeffrey J. Kosowsky) wrote in message ]> We are installing a centrally monitored, wired alarm system in our
]> house.
]>
]> I noticed that the Network Interface device sits unprotected at waist
]> level on the outside of the house. Even more concerning, the phone
]> line enters and exits the box unprotected.
]>
]> Other than paying for a radio link backup, what is the best way to
]> "harden" the phone line?
]>
]> - Would it make sense to encase it in electrical conduit at least
]> until the wire is out of reach?
]>
]> - If so, What type of conduit and fittings should one use so that it
]> is both sufficiently tamper-proof and weather resistant?
]>
]> - Any other suggestions?
 
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John O

Jan 1, 1970
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](An alternative is to wire the dummy phone line to 220V so the burglar
]gets dead if he cuts it. Just make sure it's not a lineman for the
]phone company.)

And you get charged with premeditatied murder.

Put a couple resistors in the circuit. Still 220 VAC, but not enough current
to do real damage. Might be a good idea to hook it up to something, say a
small lamp or garden soil heater, or whatever. There..it's not to kill the
idiot, it's to keep the seedlings comfy. :)

-John O
 
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jackcsg

Jan 1, 1970
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davefr said:
(An alternative is to wire the dummy phone line to 220V so the burglar
gets dead if he cuts it. Just make sure it's not a lineman for the
phone company.)
Do that, and you'll be in jail long before you have an attempted burglary.
That's the dumbest thing I have heard here yet, not very intelligent either.
Please don't have any children.
 
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G. Morgan

Jan 1, 1970
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Put a couple resistors in the circuit. Still 220 VAC, but not enough current
to do real damage. Might be a good idea to hook it up to something, say a
small lamp or garden soil heater, or whatever. There..it's not to kill the
idiot, it's to keep the seedlings comfy. :)


What are you smoking?
 
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Hugh Jass

Jan 1, 1970
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Crazy Canadians...

G. Morgan said:
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So what do you call water, electricity?

Hydro and electricity don't mix.....
 
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R.H.Campbell

Jan 1, 1970
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Oh, I see...if it isn't the way you're used to, then it's "crazy" ! That
does say something....you need to widen your horizons somewhat...

RHC

Hugh Jass said:
Crazy Canadians...
 
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petem

Jan 1, 1970
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yeah crazy canadian..using electricity created by hydro-eleclicity....
( thats the way they call electicity generated by water..you know..the
hoover dam is generating electricity.......)

but we should be doing like you..burn coal and use nuclear plant....


Hugh Jass said:
Crazy Canadians...
 
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