My new project

[Staigen1]

Hi

Autir, the link was suddenly not dead, i ended up at their site, and as ECET0purdue said, i went on to the Vehicle Terminals, and look at it, and downloaded the pdf file, describing this terminal, it's not only a tochscreen, it is a complete computer, it runs Windows CE 5.0 or Windows XP Embedded, have a 800 X 480 pixel colour widescreen and much much moore!

ECET0purdue, where to heck did you got one for free, i also want one or two? ;D ;D
But, why program it with Borland Builder C++, it has it's own programming software(Qlarity) built in, why not use that instead?

Quick data(quote from the pdf file):

DISPLAY TFT color WVGA LCD display, 256,000 colors
178 mm (7”) diagonal
154 mm x 93 mm “live area”
Pixels: 800x480
Dot Pitch: 0.27 mm
Contrast: Software controllable
Lighting: CCFL lighting
Brightness is software controllable
Ambient light sensor (configurable)

TOUCH SCREEN Analog resistive

INTERFACE Two serial ports (can be EIA-232, EIA-422 or EIA-485)
Two USB ports

Options: Ethernet 10/100Base-T
802.11b wireless Ethernet
J1708/1939
Sixteen general purpose digital I/O lines

COMMUNICATIONS Options: GSM/GPRS modem
CDMA/1XRTT modem
Integrated GPS receiver

AUDIO Built-in speaker, covert microphone

ENVIRONMENTAL Sealing: NEMA-12/13
Temperature: Operating -20 to 60

 

[autir]

Nice piece! 

Sixteen general purpose digital I/O lines

That pretty much simplifies things...

All you need then (in the car side of the project) will be the RF transmitter/receiver which will handle digital pulses. Or so I believe?

p.s.: You will still have to install a microcontroller in your house in order to convert data from the lights to digital signal and vice versa.

 

[ECET0purdue]

sorry such long time for replay but i was on vacation in jamica...   ok so you think it will be much easier now thats good... i got it because i am giveing them advertising from my project...this is my senior design and a lot of companys watch this... so i asked them to donate one for the design and this is what they gave me... i belive it is over 900.00 value i did see there software and i never used it but i think i will try....

ok so now i got the screen next i should look into a transmitter.....or transceiver  right so i can send and recive.... anything i should look for when looking for a transceiver ....thanks
glen.

 

[Staigen1]

Hi there again

Sixteen general purpose digital I/O lines

 

[ECET0purdue]

well iam not sure about the measurements in meaters...but i know about 50 feet or so. anything farther it will be done by rfid tags... (talk about that later)... ok maybe i should use voice / touch screen lol...ok ill stay on track.. ok so any ideal on transceivers i searched and only found very little on them ...ones for sale  usually all i found was a remote with a reciver..
once again thanks for all the help.
cheers,
glen

 

[Staigen1]

Hi

How long is 50 feet, measured in US Miles? A mile is about 1609 meters, and i have a soution for you, if you are intrested, the range is about 300 meters, about 1/5 of a US Mile(somewhat shorter). It is cheap and nothing to build at the terminal, just plug it in and go. And dont you know about ISO?

BTW! Welcome back from your vacation in jamica ;D! Where in the world is that ??? ?

//Staigen

 

[ECET0purdue]

300 meters is good thats about 1000 feet here.... it can send and recive right....ok then...what is your suggestion...iam intrested... and iso is a standard...what does this have to do with it?  also jamaica is south of north america.

btw.  1feet  =  .3048 meters

 

[Staigen1]

Oops, the range was only 100 meters! Sorry! But that maybee is enough?

//Staigen

 

[ECET0purdue]

yep still enough.............ummm what was the part again and can it be connected with out plug n play because in the house there will be a microcontoller connected to the tranceiver?
thanks
glen.

 

[Staigen1]

Hi

what was the part again

It's a USB Dongle, and yes, it is plug and play, but only at the computer side, i belive. Isn't there a USB controller, intended for work together with a microcontroller, it will take care of all the interfacing to the Dongle! And the Dongle is cheap! Only about 30 US$ here in sweden, such things are usally cheaper in England and USA! Btw, where do you live?

also jamaica is south of north america.

Jamaica? I know where Jamaica is, but you wrote "jamica..." ! ;D ;D

A pic of what i mean is here under(Observe, the price is swedish currency)

//StaigenView attachment 37642

 

[ECET0purdue]

that would be good for the computer side or even the cell phone ideal i had. but how would i connect that to microcontroller?

 

[audioguru2]

Jamaica? I know where Jamaica is, but you wrote "jamica..."

Hi Staigen,
We went to school such a long time ago that many nations have since changed their name.
I was also looking for the new nation called Jamica, but couldn't find it. ;D

 

[Staigen1]

Hi all of you

but how would i connect that to microcontroller?

Im not sure, i thougt it was parallel data I/O from/to the usb contoller, have you checked for a usb controller IC? The connection between the usb controller IC and the dongle is clock and data(its serial). Also there is ground and +5 Volt. The databus between the usb controller and the microcontroller i belive is 8 bits + some control bits.

To Audioguru

I was also looking for the new nation called Jamica

I thought it was some island somewhere in the pacific ocean ;D ;D

//Staigen

 

[TekNoir]

First off, Borland's C++ Builder development suites do not support writing native applications for Windows CE 5 or Windows XP Embedded systems. This particular terminal is farther from a computer and nearer to a PocketPC. You would do well to look here for possible alternatives, such as eMbedded Visual C++ here -- http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/

Secondly, at the earlier mention of using RFID for things over 50 feet. Typical ranges for RFID tags are 1/3rd of a meter to one meter for low frequency and high frequency respectively. UHF tags has a maximum line of sight range nearer to six meters. There are, however, active tags with support hardware and batteries allowing ranges of up to 100 meters or more, but these are much more expensive. More information here -- http://www.rfidjournal.com/

 

[ECET0purdue]

1ST OFF...  ok i spelled it wrong....geeezzzz...no matter how hard you look you wont find it.

2nd i am going to do some research on the micocontroller and see if i can make this work with the  usb Dongle, 

3rd, thanks for all the help and i was looking for a good rfid site so i will check that out tooo.

4th...do you have a website for the usb dongle you posted...when i did a search i found lots of different ones?

5th....this is a long topic...wow 3 pages..
cheers,
glen

 

[Alun]

First off, Borland's C++ Builder development suites do not support writing native applications for Windows CE 5 or Windows XP Embedded systems. This particular terminal is farther from a computer and nearer to a PocketPC. You would do well to look here for possible alternatives, such as eMbedded Visual C++ here -- http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/

Why pay for development tools and operating system when you can use a free one like Linux?

Secondly, at the earlier mention of using RFID for things over 50 feet. Typical ranges for RFID tags are 1/3rd of a meter to one meter for low frequency and high frequency respectively. UHF tags has a maximum line of sight range nearer to six meters. There are, however, active tags with support hardware and batteries allowing ranges of up to 100 meters or more, but these are much more expensive. More information here -- http://www.rfidjournal.com/

How long do the batteries last for though?

 

[ECET0purdue]

First off, Borland's C++ Builder development suites do not support writing native applications for Windows CE 5 or Windows XP Embedded systems. This particular terminal is farther from a computer and nearer to a PocketPC. You would do well to look here for possible alternatives, such as eMbedded Visual C++ here -- http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/
Why pay for development tools and operating system when you can use a free one like Linux?

it comes with free software so i decided to use that...

also if i used the active tags and the cell phone as the reader then it would just use the cellphone battary right and would last as long as the cell phone was being charged?

 

[Staigen1]

Hi all

To TekNoir

This particular terminal is farther from a computer and nearer to a PocketPC

A PocketPC is also a computer! And an ordinary PC is also a computer and so are a MAC! Even the old Commodore 64 is a computer! And this terminal is a computer too!

 

[TekNoir]

A PocketPC is also a computer! And an ordinary PC is also a computer and so are a MAC! Even the old Commodore 64 is a computer! And this terminal is a computer too!  ;D ;D It is intended to be used as a terminal in a distribution system. You say "nearer to a PocketPC" but this one have all this input/output devices and possibillities! ;D Do a PocketPC have that? ??? Buildt in! If you buy the right version. ;D

//Staigen

Simply a typing error on my part. I had meant to type "This particular terminal is farther from a desktop computer and nearer to a PocketPC." This was in reference to both the fact that Borland C++ Builder only natively supports Intel and AMD processors used in desktop and notebook personal computers and the fact that PocketPCs have been using the Windows CE operating system for quite some time now and may be a place to look for hints in development.

By the way, that link I gave has a whole boatload of information on RFID, from the beginner basic to quite advanced. Definately a good read...

 

[ECET0purdue]

any ideal on a block diagram for this project?    iam sure iam missing something on mine?
                              in house touchscreen
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touchscreen -> transceiver -> micorocontroller-> (now iam using powerline commucation so do i need a certin microcontroller? ) and then from microcontroller to lightswitch reciver ->lights.


pretty simple block diagram....toooo simple...what am i missing?
thanks,
glen