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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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MassiveProng said:
Eeyore Gave us:

Most bars here are up to $4.50 a glass, and our glasses are small.
Some want $8.

What size ?

A British pint is 20 fl oz and a decent lager such as Stella Artois is £3 (~USD 6)
in the local venue I frequent. Less in some other places.

I found a bar the other night (had to get some pool in) that had IPA
for $2.50 a glass!

I found my watering hole. Nobody beat me in like ten or twelve
games. They quit putting their name up on the board. :-[

They gave up ?

Graham
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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But building a house rather than digging a hole and filling it in creates
more than you
had to start with..

One little irony is that burning down a house and rebuilding it adds to the
official productivity.



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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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You don't know that for sure.

He and I went round and round a year or two ago and eventually
settled into a mutually respectful relationship where we can
disagree cordially without rancor.
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So do I.
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Sometimes, if you want to help, you have to be a sink.
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Yes, it is. You spend time here defending your beliefs, helping
technically when you can, and criticizing those who disagree with
you. Admittedly that's not _all_ of life, but it's a good part of
it.

I never said I was rich, and I never said that you aren't. I never
said I know a lot about electronics. I never called anyone stupid, or
retarded, or cursed anyone. When I'm wrong about something (which
isn't often, because I'm careful about what I state as absolutely
true) I admit it and learn. My attitude, which I admit annoys some
people greatly, is that I know who I am, accept it, and refuse to be
neurotic. I believe that my attitude is a good one for designing
electronics, which is what this group is about, and what I do.

The psychological aspects of electronic design are greatly neglected.
Absolutely neglected, in fact. Angry, dogmatic, hyper-male agressive,
fatheaded, grim people are seldom good designers. Never, actually. I'd
become a Scientologist or a Buddhist monk or learn French if it made
me a better designer, but this seems to work. Sorry, but it works.
Kind of like "Richard Corey", although I must admit you seem to have
moved beyond that.

Maybe so; I don't recall. How many people did he call fucking retards?

John
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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Banks can help create wealth by financing businesses. Big lending and
micro-lending can both be useful, and in some situations are necessary
to get things going.

But the interest they charge is just shuffling, and doesn't create
wealth.

Without the banks economic activity would be much reduced. In the middle
ages the Jews had a banking system which enabled transactions over distances
without shipping actual gold or silver.
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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We were walking down Church Street (see "Sister Act", that's the
neighborhood) this afternoon. There were, in about 6 blocks, three or
four nail/hair salons open and busy, two gyms, and two chiropractors,
all arguably unnecessary service jobs. Is having your nails done, or
getting a bikini wax, "wealth"? If you enjoy it, I think it is.

Once a society produces plenty of goods and food, using only a small
fraction of the available labor, the rest have to do something.

I recollect the comment of one German officer during WWII. They had come
across a birthday cake which had been baked in the USA and flown to Europe
for some officer's birthday. He said that it was at that moment that he knew
the war was lost.

I still find it amusing that you can buy ready to eat jello in supermarkets.
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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On exactly what basis do you make that assertion ?

Just observation. Nearly all the basic labor stuff I see here -
construction, painting, gardening, things like that - is being done by
immigrants. That drives down wages in those sectors and trashes
entry-level jobs for a lot of non-academic kids. Without immigrant
laborers, demand for labor would be extreme and wages would be much
higher. Both the immigrants and the laborers they displace are "poor",
especially since many of the immigrants are paid off the books.

After Katrina, the black residents of New Orleans were complaining
that reconstruction jobs were mostly going to imported Mexican
laborers.

John
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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Pathetic how you attempt to boost your own ego by making someone
else's station in life seem like less than it is.
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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How about telling that to those who believe in the power of 'service industries'
? Another of Thatcher's bogus ideals.

We were walking down Church Street (see "Sister Act", that's the
neighborhood) this afternoon. There were, in about 6 blocks, three or
four nail/hair salons open and busy, two gyms, and two chiropractors,
all arguably unnecessary service jobs. Is having your nails done, or
getting a bikini wax, "wealth"? If you enjoy it, I think it is.

Once a society produces plenty of goods and food, using only a small
fraction of the available labor, the rest have to do something.

John
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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Bollocks !

You *don't* create wealth that way. It's no different to privatised taxation.

Banks *do not* provide an output of greater value than the input, i.e. they do
not generate wealth.

That's economics 101 !

Graham

Banks can help create wealth by financing businesses. Big lending and
micro-lending can both be useful, and in some situations are necessary
to get things going.

But the interest they charge is just shuffling, and doesn't create
wealth.

John
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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How about telling that to those who believe in the power of 'service industries'
? Another of Thatcher's bogus ideals.

I guess that The China Construction Bank, being the largest in the
world now, provides no benefit to those chinese that invest in it.

Another Lakin Farkin gem I guess. Farkin Ice Hole! :-]
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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Bollocks !

You *don't* create wealth that way. It's no different to privatised taxation.

Banks *do not* provide an output of greater value than the input, i.e. they do
not generate wealth.

That's economics 101 !

That must be what a stock taking an artificial dive is for!
Somebody gets rich on the money that we KNOW just didn't evaporate
into thin air, and a bunch of people lose that money. For them, it
did merely evaporate.
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
After Katrina, the black residents of New Orleans were complaining
that reconstruction jobs were mostly going to imported Mexican
laborers.

Because they work harder maybe ?

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
Banks can help create wealth by financing businesses. Big lending and
micro-lending can both be useful, and in some situations are necessary
to get things going.

There will always be a pool of capital. The banks simply institutionise it. In many
cases they act to restrict business endeavour in fact.

But the interest they charge is just shuffling, and doesn't create
wealth.

It devours wealth. It's no better than a casino. The same goes for the Stock Market
and Insurance.

Graham
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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I hear anger.

They were in with Enron, and "found" to be "criminally negligent"
over two years ago.

I have yet to see any of the fuckers being charged.

Hell yes I want a rebate.

They make millions each month off of us consumers, and BILLIONS off
the industrial customers! They ain't shittin' this kid! No blinders on
this horse.

No wonder new businesses shy away from SoCal, and opt for AridZona,
and other locations with less water.

Businesses have even LEFT for this reason.
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Homer said:
I recollect the comment of one German officer during WWII. They had come
across a birthday cake which had been baked in the USA and flown to Europe
for some officer's birthday. He said that it was at that moment that he knew
the war was lost.

Apparently Goering said the same thing when he saw P51s over Berlin.

Graham
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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I didn't like Vail. Aspen is a much nicer place to ski.


15 miles north of vail, on a westward traversing farm road, can be
found a place called "Cataract Creek". 600ft waterfall that can be
hiked beside, 14k foot mountain in the backdrop, and miles of hiking a
creek full of real cataracts the shoot water like the nile! (almost).
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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What size ?

A British pint is 20 fl oz and a decent lager such as Stella Artois is £3 (~USD 6)
in the local venue I frequent. Less in some other places.


Barely 16 to 18 ounces. Sad. Money grubbing rip offs.

My dad used to fill a gallon jug at the bar for a dollar.
 
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MassiveProng

Jan 1, 1970
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One little irony is that burning down a house and rebuilding it adds to the
official productivity.

Not very synergistic though, sigtard.
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
We were walking down Church Street (see "Sister Act", that's the
neighborhood) this afternoon. There were, in about 6 blocks, three or
four nail/hair salons open and busy, two gyms, and two chiropractors,
all arguably unnecessary service jobs. Is having your nails done, or
getting a bikini wax, "wealth"? If you enjoy it, I think it is.

Once a society produces plenty of goods and food, using only a small
fraction of the available labor, the rest have to do something.

They have to absorb the wealth of those who actually made the real wealth in the
first place. Service industries simply absorb wealth.

Graham
 
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