Sallen Key Low Pass Filter, bandpass filter

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so to clarify that microphone that I mentioned will work with this circuit, cheers it's omni-directional if that matters!

I have the parts and am set to go, when I have spare time!

what is electret and dynamic, I bought the mic is it electret or dynamic please?

It's ok, its electret!
 
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I had so many problems and pass filters, that my theory simply doesn't use them.... At all. The signal is usually checked for changes in a the circuit, correct? Anyway since the signal changes could knock everything out of sync, and freq, I came up with the idea of driving a good standard freq through a dual oscillator and stabilizing the remaining signal either in a feedback loop to loosen it, or a flyback driver to tighten it. This gives noise control to a certain extent, but also makes highs into hisses, and lows into thumps!!! All in the manner of a stabilized circuit, and the best one available is the PLL... Phase Lock Loop. Good luck, please remember ideal circuits are just on paper!
 

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lol
@roughshawd What's this nonsense? Please do not confuse @Maglatron.
so I've ordered the mic, LED's, LM3914's, more than enough quad op-amps and im going off of the advice below and am going to use this pre-amplifiyer setup because I have the parts, if you point me to a pre-amplifier in chip style and low noise that would be great, but from what I understand the pre-amplifyer suggestion should be fine for my application, not trying to cut corners, I like soldering and making stuff I want it to work as best it can!

step-by-step approach.

build a signal amplifier that picks up the aufio signal from the source you are going to use (microphone, line-i, ...?) and amplifies it to a level the LM3914 can handle. You'll probably have to learn a lot while building tjis circuit. Opamps are deceptively simple when you look at the standard circuits, but opamps can nevertheless be tricky to handle when it comes to the fine details like e.g. stability of the amplifier without ringing or, worse, self-oscillation due to improper feednack circuits.
Build a single channel VU-meter to display the signal from the amplifier by the LM3914 in a way that pleases your estetics.
If necessary (very probable) debug these circuits and tweak components until it operates as your expect.
Build a first single filter e.g. for the bass range. Insert the filter into your signal chain and check that the response displayed by the LM3914 matches your expectations, which in this case should be a display of the bass tones' volume only.
Once this works go on and build the remaining filters and display circuits for the remaining channels. You may even consider designing a modular PCB with filter and display circuit which is customized to different frequencies by populating the filter with different components. The have 20 or so of these PCBs manufactures (not so expensive nowadays). The simply assemble the PCBs (solder components to them) and combine with power supply and signal amplifier (step 1 from above list) for the full spectrum analyzer.

In my opinion your chances to complete this project to your satisfaction are much better using such (or similar) modular approach.
 

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Nice one fella! very nice set of videos I am NOT using WS2812 in my design I'm using these making a 16x20 matrix!
 

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It was past the point of editing and wanted to add that I bought TL074's to the list, sorry, won't do it again!
 

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Hello,

Yes, you can still use the tool.
Perhaps change the optimalisation to "voltage range".
This will lower the resistor values a bit.

Bertus
 

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Hello,

Yes, you can still use the tool.
Perhaps change the optimalisation to "voltage range".
This will lower the resistor values a bit.

Bertus
can't find optimalisation or voltage range anywhere
and which op-amps in the program wouldd you use? default?
 
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nevermind ok cool thanks, and it's ok to use default op amps ie AD8657 in my case
 

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ok got it, is it that the voltage range tells you that it's range at it's output is from 0v to 12v in this case of

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few more pics

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and the spares are taken care of by: When you lay out your circuit for production, we recommend making use of each op amp in the package.
 
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Hello,

I see that you made the stopband more narrow. That will lead to an extra stage in the filters.
I also see you are mentioning the LM3914, wich is a linear voltage indicator.
The LM3915 would be more suitable for audio as it is logaritmic.

Bertus
 

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Hello,

I see that you made the stopband more narrow. That will lead to an extra stage in the filters.
I also see you are mentioning the LM3914, wich is a linear voltage indicator.
The LM3915 would be more suitable for audio as it is logaritmic.

Bertus
cool now I just need to get some parts and design some more filter (and save them) but I'll get to that!
 

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so might sound stupid but is logarithmic mean that the bass frequencies are further apart at the bass levels and tighter at the high pitch tones or vice versa
 
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