The Electric Car

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JosephKK

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth [email protected] posted to sci.electronics.design:
I guess you know lots more than most of us village idiots, as to
where that 64,000+ teraWatts of solar energy is going, along with
the 7.2e20 kw that's continually existing somewhere between us and
our moon, not to mention terrestrial wind that's seriously kicking
our AGW butts, plus tidal flows and geothermal energy that's clearly
for the taking by those half as smart as Warren Buffett, and that's
only demanding that you be 1% as smart as our resident LLPOF
warlord(GW Bush).

Are you saying thar Eeyore and company isn't 1% as smart as GW Bush?


At least the mindset of this supposed "clueless IDIOT" hasn't
imposed or otherwise caused any collateral damage or carnage of the
innocent. How about your energy sucking and global polluting self?
- Brad Guth -

Well, hell, there you go throwing some large numbers around. where do
they come from? Do you even know? Where did you get 64,000
terawatts? Where did you get 7.2E20 kW?
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Of course it matters. Which entity, private or public, that has a
source of electrical energy, will elect to throw it away at, say, 20%
efficiency, when they can sell it on the open market, for whatever is
the going price?




No. As I suspected, you are yet another dreamer who imagines all the
wonderful things we could do if energy were free. It ain't.





No, you have the idea, and are flogging it to a bunch of engineers.
Show us some numbers.

But of course, you can't.




It doesn't exist, which makes it a lot harder to understand.


Solar energy is low density and is only on during the day, in good
weather. There are no commercially viable solar-electric capture
technologies in existance today, other than for niche and novelty
applications, like satellites and emergency call boxes. If solar
electric generation became feasible some day, its first priority would
be daytime peaking generation, which it's ideally suited for. If
vehicles were electrically powered, via batteries or your aluminum
thing, the power would be used night-time, off-peak, and hence not
solar.









We're engineers: our job is to change things. What separates you from
us is that we actually do it, and our stuff works.

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Are your intellectual status quo farts still unable to get out? Your
naysayism is very Third Reich, you know. All that you've suggested
was technically accomplished as of 200 years ago, or more.

The laws of physics and the best available science are 100% on my side
of this rant, including the one and only salvation of our badly
failing environment is what I'm proposing. You and others of your
kind are proposing absolutely nothing other than to stay the sooty
fossil consuming and NOx + CO2 producing course. Is there a hidden
message somewhere within that mindset of yours?
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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One of the major by-products of electrolytic aluminum smelting is CO2!
Look it up.

I don't know much about the energetics of making H2O2, but it seems
like a damned silly way to transport oxygen, when air is free.

So your obsession isn't aluminum, it's H2O2? Wild.

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You folks need to speak with a good Jewish Third Reich wizard, about
those makings of aluminum and h2o2, then speak with Warren Buffett
about clean energy by which to make damn near everything under the sun
happen with spare/surplus energy to boot.
- Brad Guth -
 
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paradox137

Jan 1, 1970
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I read a report on a high density capacitor that could be charged in 5
minutes and used as a battery for a hybrid vehicle. On one charge the
average car could go 500 miles. Assuming no technical problems this will
be a life saver.
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Conspiracy theory. Goofy inventions always end in a conspiracy theory.

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So, the regular laws of physics and the best available science are now
by way of your standards a "conspiracy theory"?
- Brad Guth -
 
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me

Jan 1, 1970
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Are your intellectual status quo farts still unable to get out? Your
naysayism is very Third Reich, you know. All that you've suggested
was technically accomplished as of 200 years ago, or more.

So it has been lost all these years, or did it take a nut job like you to
bring it all together?
The laws of physics and the best available science are 100% on my side
of this rant, including the one and only salvation of our badly
failing environment is what I'm proposing. You and others of your
kind are proposing absolutely nothing other than to stay the sooty
fossil consuming and NOx + CO2 producing course. Is there a hidden
message somewhere within that mindset of yours?
- Brad Guth -

So build it and save the environment and make Bill Gates look like a
pauper, or just go away. (put up or shut up...)
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Going to waste? It's maintaining life on this planet, something I'm
rather attached to myself.

The 0.0001% of solar energy and the 0.0000001% of the Earth/moon
energy is in fact sustaining some limited portion on behalf the likes
of your pathetic life, and not that Earth wouldn't be a whole lot
better off without your life. So what about all the other unused
clean energy?
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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How about a propane hybrid?

Propane and h2o2 is perfectly fine and dandy, as the given hybrid car,
suv or Hummer could manage to operate rather nicely on both at the
same time, because there's a lot of clean energy in h2o2/propane to
work with.
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth [email protected] posted to sci.electronics.design:









Well, hell, there you go throwing some large numbers around. where do
they come from? Do you even know? Where did you get 64,000
terawatts? Where did you get 7.2E20 kW? - Hide quoted text -

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physics and math, pretty much works each and every time unless you're
stuck with having to use some hocus-pocus conditional physics that
doesn't take little pesky things like the actual truth into account.

64,000 teraWatts of terrestrial solar energy is conservative. There's
actually lots more solar energy that doesn't manage to get
sufficiently through our polluted plus somewhat wet and reflective
atmosphere, so perhaps as such it doesn't hardly count. Of orbital
physics that relates to working against the mutual pull of gravity is
exactly what it is. In the case of the Earth/moon consideration it's
worth roughly 2e20 joules per each and every second, and the last time
I'd checked there were still 3600 of them seconds per hour.
- Brad Guth -
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
Are your intellectual status quo farts still unable to get out? Your
naysayism is very Third Reich, you know. All that you've suggested
was technically accomplished as of 200 years ago, or more.

The laws of physics and the best available science are 100% on my side
of this rant, including the one and only salvation of our badly
failing environment is what I'm proposing. You and others of your
kind are proposing absolutely nothing other than to stay the sooty
fossil consuming and NOx + CO2 producing course. Is there a hidden
message somewhere within that mindset of yours?
- Brad Guth -


OK, Dipshit. Since you have all the answers, where is your working
prototype. If you tell us that you can't afford to build it, you have
just proven that it can't be done.

As far as looking it up on the internet, there are more crap websites
than Roto Rooter could ever unclog.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
I guess you know lots more than most of us village idiots, as to where
that 64,000+ teraWatts of solar energy is going, along with the 7.2e20
kw that's continually existing somewhere between us and our moon, not
to mention terrestrial wind that's seriously kicking our AGW butts,
plus tidal flows and geothermal energy that's clearly for the taking
by those half as smart as Warren Buffett, and that's only demanding
that you be 1% as smart as our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush).

Are you saying thar Eeyore and company isn't 1% as smart as GW Bush?


At least the mindset of this supposed "clueless IDIOT" hasn't imposed
or otherwise caused any collateral damage or carnage of the innocent.
How about your energy sucking and global polluting self?
- Brad Guth -


Eeyore isn't 1% as smart as a fence post, but he's got you beat by a
wide margin.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
So, the regular laws of physics and the best available science are now
by way of your standards a "conspiracy theory"?


The conspiracy is you claiming to know anything, like those phony
bastards who claim to be war vets, but never served.


You keep spouting off about 'the regular laws of physics' The only
physic you're familiar with is a laxative, which is 'the irregular laws
of physics'

- Brad Guth -


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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MooseFET said:
At 15 MPH with tires so hard they ring, it is.

The main problem with the Hummer on the highway is that it is less
streamlined than a brick.


And named after oral sex.



--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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paradox137 said:
I read a report on a high density capacitor that could be charged in 5
minutes and used as a battery for a hybrid vehicle. On one charge the
average car could go 500 miles. Assuming no technical problems this will
be a life saver.

Complete rubbish. You read no such thing and made up the rest.

Capacitors (even the latest gee-whizziest ones) don't have the required energy
density. A car might go half a mile on an ultracap.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
So, the regular laws of physics and the best available science are now
by way of your standards a "conspiracy theory"?

According to you they must be since that's what the scientsists and engineers use.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
The 0.0001% of solar energy and the 0.0000001% of the Earth/moon
energy is in fact sustaining some limited portion on behalf the likes
of your pathetic life

'Earth Moon energy' is another of Brad's psychotic delusions.

Graham
 
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MooseFET

Jan 1, 1970
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Complete rubbish. You read no such thing and made up the rest.

Capacitors (even the latest gee-whizziest ones) don't have the required energy
density. A car might go half a mile on an ultracap.

No, there is a group claiming the same energy capacity as a lead acid
battery from a capacitor. So far, you need a microscope to see their
experimental unit. Unfortunately I don't remember the link.
 
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